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  • NTAN Online
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    Decided I'd try a run this morning after getting rather bored with street walking - which as it turns out, is no prep for bushwalking.

    5km in 33:50 is OK considering it has been quite a while since I did a targeted run. As soon as I hit the mark I switched to walking for 1km to home.

    I'm still paying a gym membership so might be time to pivot to a bit of heavy weights work to up the burn.

    Weigh in tomorrow and I'm expecting nothing special after a fairly lazy week.

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    5km run this morning in 32:46, which is about a minute faster than yesterday. That's the trap; deciding it is all about pace, and then wrecking something in a knee or calf 🙂 I'll just jog along and keep the burn going.

    Not too proud to admit that backing up for another run today after my first 5km in ages was a struggle.

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    Weigh in Thursday morning - last week versus this week:

    Week 0: Weight 107.80kg, Chest 117cm, Waist 115cm, Hips 116cm

    Week 1: Weight 107.05kg, Chest 117cm, Waist 115cm, Hips 115cm

    Week 2: Weight 106.60kg, Chest 117cm, Waist 115cm, Hips 115cm

    Week 3: Weight 106.70kg 😐 , Chest 117cm, Waist 114cm, Hips 115cm

    Week 4: Weight 105.70kg 🙂 , Chest 117cm, Waist 114cm, Hips 115cm

    Week 5: Weight 105.45kg, Chest 116cm, Waist 114cm, Hips 115cm
    ...
    Next week looking to be sub-105kg.

    Week 6: Weight 104.60kg, Chest 116cm, Waist 113cm, Hips 114cm

    Week 7: Weight 104.50kg, Chest 116cm, Waist 113cm, Hips 113cm

    Week 8: Weight 104.90kg, Chest 115cm, Waist 113cm, Hips 113cm

    As expected, not a great weight result after a less active week and a bit of excess at dinner last night (should not have gone back for the boy's leftovers!). Still dropped a cm.

    Next week should be good tho as I settle back into running. Going for sub-104kg I reckon isn't out of the question.

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    @nta said in Back for more!:

    5km run this morning in 32:46, which is about a minute faster than yesterday. That's the trap; deciding it is all about pace, and then wrecking something in a knee or calf 🙂 I'll just jog along and keep the burn going.

    Not too proud to admit that backing up for another run today after my first 5km in ages was a struggle.

    The pace is one thing but also too much too soon. Given all your walking though, you should probably be Ok running on a day after a run.

    Personally I know that too much running activity is no good for me - shin splints or achilles grief seem to turn up pretty easily nowadays. Must say though that after the odd jogs and runs I've done recently, I haven't disliked them to the extent I use to. Nice to have the variety in activity I guess

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    @jk everything about shin splits changed for me when I moved to zero drop shoes. Currently Merrel Trail Glove 6 but anything with a flat sole - starting back in my barefoot running days with Vibram Fivefingers. If I wear footy boots even for a running session on grass, the next day everything hurts.

    Now I'm considering doing multi-day hikes in the Trail Gloves because the thought of doing it in hiking boots and getting hip/knee issues part way through is unappealing.

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    @nta said in Back for more!:

    5km run this morning in 32:46, which is about a minute faster than yesterday. That's the trap; deciding it is all about pace, and then wrecking something in a knee or calf 🙂 I'll just jog along and keep the burn going.

    Not too proud to admit that backing up for another run today after my first 5km in ages was a struggle.

    @nta said in Back for more!:

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    Weigh in Thursday morning - last week versus this week:

    Week 0: Weight 107.80kg, Chest 117cm, Waist 115cm, Hips 116cm

    Week 1: Weight 107.05kg, Chest 117cm, Waist 115cm, Hips 115cm

    Week 2: Weight 106.60kg, Chest 117cm, Waist 115cm, Hips 115cm

    Week 3: Weight 106.70kg 😐 , Chest 117cm, Waist 114cm, Hips 115cm

    Week 4: Weight 105.70kg 🙂 , Chest 117cm, Waist 114cm, Hips 115cm

    Week 5: Weight 105.45kg, Chest 116cm, Waist 114cm, Hips 115cm
    ...
    Next week looking to be sub-105kg.

    Week 6: Weight 104.60kg, Chest 116cm, Waist 113cm, Hips 114cm

    Week 7: Weight 104.50kg, Chest 116cm, Waist 113cm, Hips 113cm

    Week 8: Weight 104.90kg, Chest 115cm, Waist 113cm, Hips 113cm

    As expected, not a great weight result after a less active week and a bit of excess at dinner last night (should not have gone back for the boy's leftovers!). Still dropped a cm.

    Next week should be good tho as I settle back into running. Going for sub-104kg I reckon isn't out of the question.

    Maybe change the setting to just cardio (not sure what kind of watch you have) and not see pace. Just find a comfortable pace and go from there. When you can constantly see your speed it's a distraction and you can hammer yourself more than necessary.

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    @nta said in Back for more!:

    @jk everything about shin splits changed for me when I moved to zero drop shoes. Currently Merrel Trail Glove 6 but anything with a flat sole - starting back in my barefoot running days with Vibram Fivefingers. If I wear footy boots even for a running session on grass, the next day everything hurts.

    Now I'm considering doing multi-day hikes in the Trail Gloves because the thought of doing it in hiking boots and getting hip/knee issues part way through is unappealing.

    I hear ya. I use to run in similar vibrams years ago and never had an issue. My new balance runners though give me grief but my trainers (reebok crossfits) are much flatter and surprisingly good to run in. Been using those more and more in recent times.

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  • NTAN Online
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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Back for more!:

    Maybe change the setting to just cardio (not sure what kind of watch you have) and not see pace. Just find a comfortable pace and go from there. When you can constantly see your speed it's a distraction and you can hammer yourself more than necessary.

    Yeah I think you're right. I've been aiming for anything under 7 minutes per km, but conscious not to push too hard beyond 6:30 as I tend to end up with a migraine.

    Once I've got some 5km days back to back I'll go for longer distances. The forecast in Sydney this week does make that a risky proposition tho...

    The walking with occasional jog was great but it is a long fucking time out of each day to get any sort of calorific benefit.

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    @nta said in Back for more!:

    5km run this morning in 32:46, which is about a minute faster than yesterday. That's the trap; deciding it is all about pace, and then wrecking something in a knee or calf I'll just jog along and keep the burn going.
    Not too proud to admit that backing up for another run today after my first 5km in ages was a struggle.

    It would be. No shame in acknowledging that. Have you considered just targeting a heart rate on runs and letting pace take care of itself?

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    Never tried running with a watch to keep an eye on pace.

    I just go by feel knowing what approx 4.30min/km and 5min/km pace kind of feels like. Sometimes i feel like its super steady though and then get home and check the phone and its crept in a certain direction. Sometimes it all over the place but i suspect its due to elevation changes or traffic at intersections etc. I'm much more consistent when running offroad like around the golf course or along the beach

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  • NTAN Online
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    @antipodean said in Back for more!:

    @nta said in Back for more!:

    5km run this morning in 32:46, which is about a minute faster than yesterday. That's the trap; deciding it is all about pace, and then wrecking something in a knee or calf I'll just jog along and keep the burn going.
    Not too proud to admit that backing up for another run today after my first 5km in ages was a struggle.

    Have you considered just targeting a heart rate on runs and letting pace take care of itself?

    Yep - it so happens that the 6:40ish pace is roughly around the 160bpm mark according to the Garmin.

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    @jk said in Back for more!:

    Never tried running with a watch to keep an eye on pace.

    I just go by feel knowing what approx 4.30min/km and 5min/km pace kind of feels like. Sometimes i feel like its super steady though and then get home and check the phone and its crept in a certain direction. Sometimes it all over the place but i suspect its due to elevation changes or traffic at intersections etc. I'm much more consistent when running offroad like around the golf course or along the beach

    If I don't have my garmin with me, I simply won't go for a run

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    @voodoo said in Back for more!:

    @jk said in Back for more!:

    Never tried running with a watch to keep an eye on pace.

    I just go by feel knowing what approx 4.30min/km and 5min/km pace kind of feels like. Sometimes i feel like its super steady though and then get home and check the phone and its crept in a certain direction. Sometimes it all over the place but i suspect its due to elevation changes or traffic at intersections etc. I'm much more consistent when running offroad like around the golf course or along the beach

    If I don't have my garmin with me, I simply won't go for a run

    I find it very easy to talk myself out of a run

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    @jk ha, I hear ya!

    I still dont mind a 'run' up the Maunga, but my cardio at the gym is usually on the bike or the elliptical thing... we hateses the treadmill!

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    @taniwharugby said in Back for more!:

    @jk ha, I hear ya!

    I still dont mind a 'run' up the Maunga, but my cardio at the gym is usually on the bike or the elliptical thing... we hateses the treadmill!

    Yeah I haven't been on a treadmill for about 10 years. Ever since I was using it one day at the gym and was bashing away and this old koot goes "Well you clearly aren't a runner...."

    He offered to run with me out of the street to show me the way, which I gladly accepted. We ran once together and I think I almost killed em. Subsequently let him know that I had run numerous top 10s at NZ (and Auckland) road race and cross country champs as a teenager.

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    @jk said in Back for more!:

    @voodoo said in Back for more!:

    @jk said in Back for more!:

    Never tried running with a watch to keep an eye on pace.

    I just go by feel knowing what approx 4.30min/km and 5min/km pace kind of feels like. Sometimes i feel like its super steady though and then get home and check the phone and its crept in a certain direction. Sometimes it all over the place but i suspect its due to elevation changes or traffic at intersections etc. I'm much more consistent when running offroad like around the golf course or along the beach

    If I don't have my garmin with me, I simply won't go for a run

    I find it very easy to talk myself out of a run

    I’ve managed to do that for 44 years and counting.

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  • NTAN Online
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    Bushwalk today - second part of the Great North Walk that I'd planned to do last weekend, but ran out of steam.

    And thank fuck because if I'd continued, the last 3km of this walk would have finished me.

    In their wisdom, the creators of the fire trail/service track going up to Thornleigh Oval decided it was just quicker to dump a bunch of rocks over a 2km stretch. And then of course some psycho MTB types thought it was hilarious fun to ride it!

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  • NTAN Online
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    For @JK's benefit, this was the tame part of the rocky section:

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  • NTAN Online
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    Kilometre 15 sucked from an elevation point of view, I might add.

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  • NTAN Online
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    Rolled my ankle yesterday so bad I thought I was going to hit the deck. Fuck I'm old.

    Having said that, I pulled up OK from the bushwalk on the weekend compared to the week before, but just haven't gone out because I'm lazy and work / wife is giving me the shits, and now the ankle 😐

    In a bit of a hole mentally and need to dig myself out.

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  • NTAN Online
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    Decided to go to the gym for the first time since they reopened - weather is fucking miserable, I can't run, and so maybe lifting a bit of weight would help reset. With no meetings for a 2-hour slot (Wednesdays are a fluffybunny otherwise) I got in for a quick sesh.

    Chinups, bench, sled, standing cable rows, incline dumbells, and a set of deadlifts to finish off.

    Given it has been months since I did any free weights, I'll probably be a bit tight tomorrow. But I've got another free slot in the middle of the day to go back and blow out the DOMS.

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