AB bolters thread
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Provincial Stalwart" data-cid="579604" data-time="1463168586"><p>Don't understand the love for luatua. He looked better than he actually was in 2013 due to playing for unbeaten all blacks. He turned up unfit for the blues in 2014, got his public humiliation that june running wind sprints, picked for the 2014 rugby championship after a lock injury crisis (BBBR and PT were crocked) and has been an ex all black ever since. He's as hard as a marshmallow and we have better young lock / 6 options.</p></blockquote>
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Don't understand the love for luatua. He looked better than he actually was in 2013 due to playing for unbeaten all blacks. He turned up unfit for the blues in 2014, got his public humiliation that june running wind sprints, picked for the 2014 rugby championship after a lock injury crisis (BBBR and PT were crocked) and has been an ex all black ever since. He's as hard as a marshmallow and we have better young lock / 6 options.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="579595" data-time="1463164199"><p>If Read was to go down injured , who starts at 8 ? <br>
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This is where I see Vito as a loss , a genuine 8 now IMO<br></p></blockquote>
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Where is the value in picking Vito when he's buggering off overseas? IMO ABs are better off developing another 8 option, or at least seeing if someone can play there (think Dixon/Luatua/Squire etc). -
I think there's a kid called akira ioane who's earmarked for that trial sometime this year.<br><br>
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Blindside is where we station our pack enforcer. Jerry Collins, Jerome kaino. I don't picture luatua as capable of providing that muscle. <br><br>
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An enforcer job is certainly a role Dixon doesn't mind taking on. He's absolutely fantastic.
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<p><strong>Blindside is where we station our pack enforcer</strong>. Jerry Collins, Jerome kaino. I don't picture luatua as capable of providing that muscle.<br><br>
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<p>Yeah but Rueben Thorne and Taine Randell have played there too.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="579595" data-time="1463164199"><p>If Read was to go down injured , who starts at 8 ? <br><br>
This is where I see Vito as a loss , a genuine 8 now IMO</p></blockquote>
Kaino with Luatua to the blindside. After Rio it will be Akira as Read's understudy. Massive upsides to him.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="579649" data-time="1463184744"><p>Yeah but Rueben Thorne and Taine Randell have played there too.</p></blockquote>
Yeah but Jamie Joseph and cowboy Shaw. <br><br>
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<p>Yeah but <strong>Jamie Joseph</strong> and cowboy Shaw.</p>
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<p>Standing on an opposition player's hand is not really the enforcement we're looking for. :)</p> -
Cowboy Shaw was known to help old ladies across the road though. And it was only kyran Bracken's hand (by JJ)<br><br>
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<p>Where is the value in picking Vito when he's buggering off overseas? IMO ABs are better off developing another 8 option, or at least seeing if someone can play there (think Dixon/Luatua/Squire etc).</p>
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<p>Nah I wasnt suggesting they pick him , just saying he is a bit of a loss , not so much as a bench option , but as a starting 8 option if it was needed </p> -
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<p>Cowboy Shaw was known to help old ladies across the road though. And it was only kyran Bracken's hand (by JJ)<br><br>
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<p>Yeah I don't remember Jamie Joseph standing up to opposition forwards. Standing on opposition backs hands hardly screams enforcement, cheapshot is the word I'm looking for.</p>
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<p>I also remember him holding a tackle bag during training and a winger knocked him on his ass.</p> -
<p>Based on the Reds Canes game, Barrett and Perenara are bolting their way out of the AB's into the NPC</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="579749" data-time="1463216220"><p>Yeah I don't remember Jamie Joseph standing up to opposition forwards. Standing on opposition backs hands hardly screams enforcement, cheapshot is the word I'm looking for.<br><br>
I also remember him holding a tackle bag during training and a winger knocked him on his ass.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Based on the Reds Canes game, Barrett and Perenara are bolting their way out of the AB's into the NPC</p>
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<p>Barrett has been an integral part of the team for several years. He isn't going anywhere.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="579749" data-time="1463216220"><p>Yeah I don't remember Jamie Joseph standing up to opposition forwards. Standing on opposition backs hands hardly screams enforcement, cheapshot is the word I'm looking for.<br><br>
I also remember him holding a tackle bag during training and a winger knocked him on his ass.</p></blockquote>
Depends whether the winger was Jonah lomu.<br><br>
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<p>Probably a bit of a long shot with our midfield depth but could Faddes be a dark horse?</p>
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<p>I doubt it. He's only played a few good games of Super Rugby. Way too soon to be even remotely considered. I think Matt Proctor is more likely to be considered if you are talking about real bolters.</p> -
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