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    @berniescorner said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Highlights of match

    Coles super pissed off with French intercept try
    Sami playing like a no nonsense AB forward
    Rieko getting serious and giving it heaps

    Dupont a great not even smiling at the end Prob thinking about the next French improvement. Awesome player

    Feel proud how ABs came back but a bit sad. Could be 2 years of pain

    They didn't give up. Lesser teams would.

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    Foster on Sky.

    Intercept killed us. No. A shoddy first half did, and inability to think clearly,
    Great occasion. Fuck the occasion!
    is this a great advert for world rugby? "awesome to be part of it" Good on you Foster, but we need you to coach, not be a "part of it"
    Ran out of energy at the end. Horseshit, you picked fresh guys that didn't play last week, you subbed. No excuse for that.
    Always knew they'd play fast. Then counter it FFS
    Disappointed that lineout drives hurt us. Then get better at defending this
    Loved how we came back in third 1/4 - couldn't keep it going. Four quarter game Fozzie, Four quarter game.
    "Can you change things around?" I'd love that, last two games big learning curve. What about the last five years? the SA game 2020, Argentina, Ireland. You're not learning shit. You remind me of my Year 13 students doing the same stupid stuff they did in Year 11. If they're not gunna learn, they're not gunna learn.

    Stop using the tour as an excuse. The Black Caps don't. Breakers didn't. Warriors didn't.

    Jeff Wilson "AB's not on top of their game clearly"

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    @chester-draws said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @anonymous said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Fozzie has a 75% win percentage as head coach..

    If you took out the tests against Tonga, Fiji, USA and Italy, It'd be a 62.5% win rate. So it's an inflated 75% win percentage as well.

    Basically we can beat Australia. Against any other Tier 1 we are now 50%.

    I think a full strength Australia side is a good bit better than when we played them.

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    @chester-draws said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @anonymous said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Fozzie has a 75% win percentage as head coach..

    If you took out the tests against Tonga, Fiji, USA and Italy, It'd be a 62.5% win rate. So it's an inflated 75% win percentage as well.

    Basically we can beat Australia. Against any other Tier 1 we are now 50%.

    Wales? Surely, 60+%?

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    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    How much do we pay Jeff Wilson for his incisive observations?

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    Is Graham Henry available?
    He's literally the one guy I think could turn this around by RWC'23.

    I just want Razor to have a clean slate post that-France.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Thanks to @Duluth and @Kirwan (I guess) I can answer my own question but could we add an average at some stage?

    Last five years = 76% win percentage
    Screen Shot 2021-11-21 at 7.05.52.png

    15 years before that = 86% win percentage
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    Fozzie has a 75% win percentage as head coach..

    NB

    That didn't include today's result.

    Away during the last two years, we are 5/8 including losses to Oz, Ireland, and France. That's inflated by the fact we didn't play SA, but rather USA and Italy (and Wales is the other nation).

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @nta said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @nta said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    I'm conscious that France played a few games in the last few years where they've looked ace for the first half and imploded in the second

    Well... Yeah..

    Sublime from the French. Ntamack made RM look like a nobody.

    They did go off the boil. But then so did we.
    Edit: bringing DH on to pass to the French when we had momentum was a masterstroke from the coaches, for example.

    Words fail me.

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    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Is Graham Henry available?
    He's literally the one guy I think could turn this around by RWC'23.

    I just want Razor to have a clean slate post that-France.

    Technical advisor like the 2003 Blues?

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    How much do we pay Jeff Wilson for his incisive observations?

    If it's anything other than a couple cups of coffee it's too much.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Is Graham Henry available?
    He's literally the one guy I think could turn this around by RWC'23.

    I just want Razor to have a clean slate post that-France.

    Technical advisor like the 2003 Blues?

    Exactly.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chester-draws said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @anonymous said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Fozzie has a 75% win percentage as head coach..

    If you took out the tests against Tonga, Fiji, USA and Italy, It'd be a 62.5% win rate. So it's an inflated 75% win percentage as well.

    Basically we can beat Australia. Against any other Tier 1 we are now 50%.

    I think a full strength Australia side is a good bit better than when we played them.

    Do you think NZ would win most of their tests at home? What we're seeing is NZ losing away matches. Losing away is quite common for most other teams, especially in front of large, vocal support.

    Honestly, winning 85%+ over last 16/17 years has skewed things. Winning away used to be a great feat. Maybe you'll begin to treasure them again😉

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    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Is Graham Henry available?
    He's literally the one guy I think could turn this around by RWC'23.

    I just want Razor to have a clean slate post that-France.

    Technical advisor like the 2003 Blues?

    Exactly.

    If the answer is bringing in a 76 year old retired coach, the issues are worse that I thought.

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    That 25 minutes after the half give me hope that, in the right hands, we can put put a good team who can compete and win. I have zero faith Fozzie and his team can work that out

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    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Is Graham Henry available?
    He's literally the one guy I think could turn this around by RWC'23.

    I just want Razor to have a clean slate post that-France.

    Technical advisor like the 2003 Blues?

    Exactly.

    There are several who would be an improvement.
    Anyone even. Perhaps an actual coach would be a good idea?
    (I feel more bitter today than Mike Hosking with a shave and a haircut).

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Is Graham Henry available?
    He's literally the one guy I think could turn this around by RWC'23.

    I just want Razor to have a clean slate post that-France.

    Technical advisor like the 2003 Blues?

    Exactly.

    If the answer is bringing in a 76 year old retired coach, the issues are worse that I thought.

    With fresher ideas. That is the real killer.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Is Graham Henry available?
    He's literally the one guy I think could turn this around by RWC'23.

    I just want Razor to have a clean slate post that-France.

    Technical advisor like the 2003 Blues?

    Exactly.

    If the answer is bringing in a 76 year old retired coach, the issues are worse that I thought.

    That's age-ist. Just because the man is 76 doesn't mean a thing. He retired from the AB's at the right time.
    But he's also got the experience to cut to the core of any issues, provide clarity over 12 months, and give us a shot.

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    Just imagine this place if NZ hadn't won back to back WCs in 2011 and 2015. Foster would need a security detail!

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    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Is Graham Henry available?
    He's literally the one guy I think could turn this around by RWC'23.

    I just want Razor to have a clean slate post that-France.

    Be interesting to see what influence Schmidt has on the Blues defence next year. Might be the guy to bring in to get us playing a more modern and aggressive pattern.

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    @tim said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @westcoastie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Is Graham Henry available?
    He's literally the one guy I think could turn this around by RWC'23.

    I just want Razor to have a clean slate post that-France.

    Be interesting to see what influence Schmidt has on the Blues defence next year. Might be the guy to bring in to get us playing a more modern and aggressive pattern.

    This 💯

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