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@crucial said in Beer thread:
@mn5 said in Beer thread:
@crucial said in Beer thread:
@mn5 said in Beer thread:
@machpants said in Beer thread:
Noice!
…..even though Panhead are pretty mainstream for Craft beer
Not sure where you get that from. Have you not been to their taproom and tried their non supermarket brews?
Or are you looking for some Yuzu extrahazy ice cream IIIPA?They sold to Lion. This apparently fucked up the recipe for Super charger ( not sure how true this is to be fair )
Imagination based on people getting wanky about the sell out I’d say.
Same brewery, same brewer, same recipes, more money to play with and great brisket burgers.Hmmmmm, enough beer piston wristed gibbons ( even worse than me ) have whinged about it. I haven’t had Supercharger for awhile as I’ll always try to find new beers but I’ll have a go next time.
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@reprobate said in Beer thread:
@crucial Yeah nah. Definitely had some bad batches after selling.
I did a bit of research and asking around. Like most things the reality falls somewhere between the two points of view.
In short the recipe has not changed, however quite a bit of supercharger is brewed in Auckland now simply because of popularity and production capacity. Same with the Pils. These brews end up both on tap and some of the bottled/canned.The recipe and method has not changed however some the suppliers of ingredients have so source products may differ very slightly. The biggest difference is in the scaling up and larger/smaller batches can make a brew slightly different which I guess is where the arguments about these brews no longer being 'craft' comes in. Funny thing is that to me the point about 'craft' is that you will get variations more than factory like consistency so you probably never got one exact pre-buyout brew and one pot-buyout anyway.
There was also a problem with a couple of batches a few years back that didn't show up until they had been in the bottles for a while and stock had to be pulled back from shops. This came soon after buyout and was latched onto by 'fans' as indicative of low standards.
The big advantage with a buyout is that you get the funding to get your beer in more mouths (which is kind of the point) and have fun on the side making trial brews with no financial pressures.
Panhead and Emersons have worked this out way better than Mac's and Montieths ever did (they just sold and walked away) or Tuatara who have become very uninteresting and fallen to an inbetween zone like Moa. Not considered interesting or bland just somewhere in the middle.
If you want your old Supercharger experience back go to the brewery tap room and you'll get a fresh small batch off the tap.
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@crucial said in Beer thread:
@reprobate said in Beer thread:
@crucial Yeah nah. Definitely had some bad batches after selling.
I did a bit of research and asking around. Like most things the reality falls somewhere between the two points of view.
In short the recipe has not changed, however quite a bit of supercharger is brewed in Auckland now simply because of popularity and production capacity. Same with the Pils. These brews end up both on tap and some of the bottled/canned.The recipe and method has not changed however some the suppliers of ingredients have so source products may differ very slightly. The biggest difference is in the scaling up and larger/smaller batches can make a brew slightly different which I guess is where the arguments about these brews no longer being 'craft' comes in. Funny thing is that to me the point about 'craft' is that you will get variations more than factory like consistency so you probably never got one exact pre-buyout brew and one pot-buyout anyway.
There was also a problem with a couple of batches a few years back that didn't show up until they had been in the bottles for a while and stock had to be pulled back from shops. This came soon after buyout and was latched onto by 'fans' as indicative of low standards.
The big advantage with a buyout is that you get the funding to get your beer in more mouths (which is kind of the point) and have fun on the side making trial brews with no financial pressures.
Panhead and Emersons have worked this out way better than Mac's and Montieths ever did (they just sold and walked away) or Tuatara who have become very uninteresting and fallen to an inbetween zone like Moa. Not considered interesting or bland just somewhere in the middle.
If you want your old Supercharger experience back go to the brewery tap room and you'll get a fresh small batch off the tap.
Tuatara are just a nonentity now. I can’t remember the last time I had a new beer from them.
Behemoth, Urbanaut, Shining Peak, McLeods and any number of others have just blitzed them.
As for Panhead well it’s the old adage, if you get one bad batch you’re gonna tell the world, if it’s decent you’ll just keep your mouth shut, drink and enjoy it quietly.
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@crucial yeah all fair enough mate, I couldn't care less about the craftiness of it, and in general them selling out means more good beer in places that previously had no good beer, so that's a big win as far as I'm concerned. But in my anecdotal experience, the quality and consistency dipped, including one genuinely faulty batch. There's plenty of small still crafty breweries whose quality control is far far worse of course, but its not a myth that Panhead had some issues.
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@machpants said in Beer thread:
@mn5 said in Beer thread:
the old adage, if you get one bad batch you’re gonna tell the world, if it’s decent you’ll just keep your mouth shut, drink and enjoy it quietly.
That's an adage?
Must be a good saying, according to @mn5 logic, as I never heard that adage either.
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@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@machpants said in Beer thread:
@mn5 said in Beer thread:
the old adage, if you get one bad batch you’re gonna tell the world, if it’s decent you’ll just keep your mouth shut, drink and enjoy it quietly.
That's an adage?
Must be a good saying, according to @mn5 logic, as I never heard that adage either.
All shit I make up on here is true, you should know that by now.
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@mn5 said in Beer thread:
@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@machpants said in Beer thread:
@mn5 said in Beer thread:
the old adage, if you get one bad batch you’re gonna tell the world, if it’s decent you’ll just keep your mouth shut, drink and enjoy it quietly.
That's an adage?
Must be a good saying, according to @mn5 logic, as I never heard that adage either.
All shit I make up on here is true, you should know that by now.
Congratulations then, you speak a lot of truth!
(I did silently agree with that post btw).
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@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@mn5 said in Beer thread:
@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@machpants said in Beer thread:
@mn5 said in Beer thread:
the old adage, if you get one bad batch you’re gonna tell the world, if it’s decent you’ll just keep your mouth shut, drink and enjoy it quietly.
That's an adage?
Must be a good saying, according to @mn5 logic, as I never heard that adage either.
All shit I make up on here is true, you should know that by now.
Congratulations then, you speak a lot of truth!
(I did silently agree with that post btw).
Any self respecting ferner would die before admitting they were wrong.
Anyway, back to beer talk. Had an espresso Martini Stout from Deep Creek. Really, REALLY good and the moment I started it I wished I’d had another.
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Had one of these this afternoon, not bad at all.
Puhoi Beer | Award Winning Craft Beer I Czech Pilsner larger
Brewed in Auckland, New Zealand, Puhoi Beer is our award-winning take on the classic Czech pilsner. Pouring at Puhoi Pub and other venues.
Puhoi Beer is our version of the classic Czech pilsner.
Inspired by the original Bohemian settlers of Puhoi, Puhoi Beer is a drinkable lager with a bunch of character.
If we were trying to impress you we might have crapped on about Puhoi Beer being a mix of NZ and classic Czech noble hops that provide floral, citrusy, and spicy flavours on a light malt base with subtle bready and toasty characters. But we wouldn’t want to beer-bore you so let’s just say it’s bloody tasty.
Puhoi Beer also goes well with sunshine, tall tales, good yarns, and fish ‘n’ chips wrapped in newspaper.
Your first one tastes pretty good, and the second’s not bad either.
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I much prefer Pilsners and Hazy's to IPA's, APA's etc at present.
Given how hot it is at the moment, beer is great! Wife got a box of Peroni on the weekend, those go down well too!
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@taniwharugby said in Beer thread:
I much prefer Pilsners and Hazy's to IPA's, APA's etc at present.
Given how hot it is at the moment, beer is great! Wife got a box of Peroni on the weekend, those go down well too!
As I said above there are just TOO many Hazys but they are ridiculously popular so brewers are giving the people what they want which is some cases tastes like alcoholic Orange Juice.
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@mn5 anything is better than the over-hopped IPA, Double IPA, APA etc that many brewews are making.
Generally, like anything, its easy to stay away from the rubbish Hazy's.
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@taniwharugby said in Beer thread:
@mn5 anything is better than the over-hopped IPA, Double IPA, APA etc that many brewews are making.
Generally, like anything, its easy to stay away from the rubbish Hazy's.
Loads and loads of full flavoured and strong as fuck stouts out there. Just don’t drive after having a couple under any circumstances.
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@mn5 appreciate things are slightly different in Wellytarctica, but not really my drink of choice in warmer weather and she's been bloody warm up here the past fortnight or so...
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@taniwharugby said in Beer thread:
I much prefer Pilsners and Hazy's to IPA's, APA's etc at present.
I like both!
Brewed a fantastic Pilsner a few weeks ago that we're enjoying; but also love good hazy and hoppy IPA. Can't beat a nice clean lager/pilsner in summer
