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  • MachpantsM Offline
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    @cgrant said in AB Props:

    I can't see the ABs winning the next RWC with the current starting props. Moody and Laulala have been great servants of NZ rugby but the game has evolved and they are clearly past it. The only solution is to keep faith in De Groot and Tyrell Lomax, and give thme the starting spots in every important AB game for the next two years before the RWC. They are still young and have the required qualities to develop into world class props. I hope Atu Moli will be back soon as he could be in the mix too.

    I don't think the game has evolved for props as much as they've devolved, moody had great hands at the 2015 RWC. They've gone backwards and everyone else is up to where our props used to be

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    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @duluth said in AB Props:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300465751/all-blacks-props-challenged-to-lift-their-game-and-meet-the-northern-challenge

    Is Karl T really 135kg? He doesn't look that much heavier than De Groot there (supposedly 122kg)?

    this has shades of Ardie's height all over again

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    @nzzp said in AB Props:

    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @duluth said in AB Props:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300465751/all-blacks-props-challenged-to-lift-their-game-and-meet-the-northern-challenge

    Is Karl T really 135kg? He doesn't look that much heavier than De Groot there (supposedly 122kg)?

    this has shades of Ardie's height all over again

    Dunno, his guts are pretty big

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    @mn5 said in AB Props:

    @nzzp said in AB Props:

    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @duluth said in AB Props:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300465751/all-blacks-props-challenged-to-lift-their-game-and-meet-the-northern-challenge

    Is Karl T really 135kg? He doesn't look that much heavier than De Groot there (supposedly 122kg)?

    this has shades of Ardie's height all over again

    Dunno, his guts are pretty big

    tilt the picture 90 degrees, it'll all make sense then

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    @machpants
    Nowadays, props make more carries than in 2015. Back then, it was the locks who were standing as first receivers, next to slow ball rucks. Now, it's more frequently the props who are there. France use Cyril Baille a lot in this position while both Irish props make a lot of carries.

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    @nzzp said in AB Props:

    @mn5 said in AB Props:

    @nzzp said in AB Props:

    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @duluth said in AB Props:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300465751/all-blacks-props-challenged-to-lift-their-game-and-meet-the-northern-challenge

    Is Karl T really 135kg? He doesn't look that much heavier than De Groot there (supposedly 122kg)?

    this has shades of Ardie's height all over again

    Dunno, his guts are pretty big

    tilt the picture 90 degrees, it'll all make sense then

    ???

    1638248713647.jpg

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    @nzzp said in AB Props:

    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @duluth said in AB Props:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300465751/all-blacks-props-challenged-to-lift-their-game-and-meet-the-northern-challenge

    Is Karl T really 135kg? He doesn't look that much heavier than De Groot there (supposedly 122kg)?

    this has shades of Ardie's height all over again

    eight-foot tall shades? 🙂
    I've decided Hurricanes forwards look shorter merely because of the horizontal gale wind factor.

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    @cgrant said in AB Props:

    @machpants
    Nowadays, props make more carries than in 2015. Back then, it was the locks who were standing as first receivers, next to slow ball rucks. Now, it's more frequently the props who are there. France use Cyril Baille a lot in this position while both Irish props make a lot of carries.

    Bill Cavubati was born in the wrong era

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    @mn5
    And Bull Allen too.

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    @cgrant said in AB Props:

    @mn5
    And Bull Allen too.

    Yep but you got to be able to scrum as well as run with ball!

    And not convinced you can have a vegetarian prop anyway😁 😁

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    @dan54 said in AB Props:

    @cgrant said in AB Props:

    @mn5
    And Bull Allen too.

    Yep but you got to be able to scrum as well as run with ball!

    And not convinced you can have a vegetarian prop anyway😁 😁

    I think Genge is part vegan.
    I was surprised to hear Nonu (not a prop but built like one) has been vegetarian for years...

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    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @dan54 said in AB Props:

    @cgrant said in AB Props:

    @mn5
    And Bull Allen too.

    Yep but you got to be able to scrum as well as run with ball!

    And not convinced you can have a vegetarian prop anyway😁 😁

    I think Genge is part vegan.
    I was surprised to hear Nonu (not a prop but built like one) has been vegetarian for years...

    How can you be part vegan?

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    @machpants maybe pescatarian?

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    @machpants said in AB Props:

    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @dan54 said in AB Props:

    @cgrant said in AB Props:

    @mn5
    And Bull Allen too.

    Yep but you got to be able to scrum as well as run with ball!

    And not convinced you can have a vegetarian prop anyway😁 😁

    I think Genge is part vegan.
    I was surprised to hear Nonu (not a prop but built like one) has been vegetarian for years...

    How can you be part vegan?

    Vegan some days, on-off diet...

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    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @machpants said in AB Props:

    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @dan54 said in AB Props:

    @cgrant said in AB Props:

    @mn5
    And Bull Allen too.

    Yep but you got to be able to scrum as well as run with ball!

    And not convinced you can have a vegetarian prop anyway😁 😁

    I think Genge is part vegan.
    I was surprised to hear Nonu (not a prop but built like one) has been vegetarian for years...

    How can you be part vegan?

    Vegan some days, on-off diet...

    Cheat days, I like it

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  • MachpantsM Offline
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    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @machpants said in AB Props:

    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @dan54 said in AB Props:

    @cgrant said in AB Props:

    @mn5
    And Bull Allen too.

    Yep but you got to be able to scrum as well as run with ball!

    And not convinced you can have a vegetarian prop anyway😁 😁

    I think Genge is part vegan.
    I was surprised to hear Nonu (not a prop but built like one) has been vegetarian for years...

    How can you be part vegan?

    Vegan some days, on-off diet...

    LOL so am I, that's not vegan that's just a varied diet

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by nostrildamus
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    @machpants said in AB Props:

    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @machpants said in AB Props:

    @nostrildamus said in AB Props:

    @dan54 said in AB Props:

    @cgrant said in AB Props:

    @mn5
    And Bull Allen too.

    Yep but you got to be able to scrum as well as run with ball!

    And not convinced you can have a vegetarian prop anyway😁 😁

    I think Genge is part vegan.
    I was surprised to hear Nonu (not a prop but built like one) has been vegetarian for years...

    How can you be part vegan?

    Vegan some days, on-off diet...

    LOL so am I, that's not vegan that's just a varied diet

    I'm just reporting, not claiming. There is a big vegan rugby league prop but he's the closest I know of in rugby union prop circles.

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    Pretty sure Bull wasn't a vegetarian, IIRC he just didn't eat red meat and was actually the face of KFC fo a while.

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    @nepia And probably consumed a ton of dairy derived protein powder.

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    @nepia said in AB Props:

    Pretty sure Bull wasn't a vegetarian, IIRC he just didn't eat red meat and was actually the face of KFC fo a while.

    You'd have to ask the man himself but recently he was written up as vegan (after his playing days I guess). The Destiny Church stuff is new to me.

    Stuff
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