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    SouthernMann
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    I reckon both Michael Bracewell and Nathan Smith will go very close. Bracewell was meant to tour Bangladesh or Pakistan last year, but pulled out due to the birth of his first child.

    Smith is the likely next long-term pace bowling allrounder after Neesham and CDG. Worth taking for experience alone.

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    @bayimports
    The use of the word star is somewhat overdone by the writer of the article when he uses it to describe all of the squad that lined up at Bay Oval.

    Black Caps test squad to face Bangladesh
    Tom Latham (c), Tom Blundell, Trent Boult, Devon Conway, Matt Henry, Kyle Jamieson, Daryl Mitchell, Henry Nicholls, Rachin Ravindra, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor, Neil Wagner, Will Young.

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    @higgins I wouldnt get too upset, it was on news.com.au so hyperbole is expected, however I imagine most Australian news outlets will run with a similar tagline lol

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    Assuming things go ahead...Of the two names not mentioned I would hope management has at least given some consideration to mending a bridge with Colin Munro and giving him another crack. We have a white ball World Cup in Australia in 9 months and he has played more white ball cricket than anyone in Australia and is in good form in the BBL. I was calling for him to be dropped all through the 2019 WC and am not a huge fan, but I'm also not a huge fan of wasting resources.

    Dane Cleaver I think is worth a punt, as keeper cover is needed for Seifert (Conway, Latham, Blundell are all in the test squad). In decent form and on a tour not captained by his cousin.

    I would also send Daryl Mitchell unless Stead is absolutely wedded to the idea of him playing all three tests. I think he would get more out of this white ball series than one (possible) test match.

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    @rotated Mitchell will be in or around the test squad so forget that idea. And the only game I'd consider Munro for is the T20 at the end of the tour. He's proven over and over its his only decent format.

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    @shark said in Black Caps Squad for Australia ODI Tour:

    @rotated Mitchell will be in or around the test squad so forget that idea. And the only game I'd consider Munro for is the T20 at the end of the tour. He's proven over and over its his only decent format.

    Agree on both points, just my selections.

    Aside from Rosco I would pick the side entirely based around giving experience to players who will be part of the T20 WC in October or who are the frame for the ODI CWC next March. Picking the "best" team for these games wouldn't be a huge concern.

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    Tour postponed due to MIQ uncertainty...... https://www.facebook.com/blackcapsfan/posts/10160513964797994

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    @donsteppa ah bollocks

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    Last night they were saying that the T20Is scheduled to be played in NZ, would likely be played in Aust. That would still be dependent on getting later MIQ spots, which is obviously still an issue.

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    I think it's also that the government can't guarantee that self-isolation will be an option yet, otherwise they just would have returned in early March instead.

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    Follows on ( pun!) From the Under 19s withdrawing from the current world cup also due MIQ concerns.

    Except, that decision was made on November 18 2021.

    Just makes you proud to be a tough, pragmatic kiwi with that "can do" attitude" we used to be famous for๐Ÿ˜

    "Some of these guys in the under-19 setups can be as young as 16,โ€ Boock said.
    "We didnโ€™t think it was appropriate to force young people to undergo MIQ.โ€

    Players would have undergone MIQ in a room by themselves, without support from family and with only digital commination between teammates.

    Players were not involved in the decision but have been briefed on it.

    Wow๐Ÿ˜’

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    Weird excuse. NZ cricket probably just didn't want to shell out the money to MIQ all the players, coaches and support staff. Probably talking north of $100K?

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    Very disappointing.

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    @act-crusader said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:

    Very disappointing.

    Nicely put

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    @frye said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:

    Weird excuse. NZ cricket probably just didn't want to shell out the money to MIQ all the players, coaches and support staff. Probably talking north of $100K?

    If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.

    Someone mentioned that the bright side may be that we don't send a potentially second string team to Oz...

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    @donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:

    If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.

    I understood there are real responsibility issues with putting a 15/16 year old into an isolated room for 2 weeks. It isn't normal for those kids, and with no parents/responsible adults is high risk. Who is responsible if the kids mental health deteriorates? What can you reasonably do? I think those were more the issue to be fair

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    @nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:

    @donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:

    If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.

    I understood there are real responsibility issues with putting a 15/16 year old into an isolated room for 2 weeks. It isn't normal for those kids, and with no parents/responsible adults is high risk. Who is responsible if the kids mental health deteriorates? What can you reasonably do? I think those were more the issue to be fair

    Ah, my bad, I was thinking mainly of the Black Caps, not the U19's. Though the cynic in me wonders if the average 18-19 year old (depending on the tournament age qualifying date) might have enjoyed a ten day Play Station stint ๐Ÿ™‚

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    @donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:

    @donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia ODI Tour 2022:

    If I read it right, one adult per room = $1,610 (Charges by Room), so $32,200 even if they send a group of 20. I gather it's more room availability/ability to book.

    I understood there are real responsibility issues with putting a 15/16 year old into an isolated room for 2 weeks. It isn't normal for those kids, and with no parents/responsible adults is high risk. Who is responsible if the kids mental health deteriorates? What can you reasonably do? I think those were more the issue to be fair

    Ah, my bad, I was thinking mainly of the Black Caps, not the U19's. Though the cynic in me wonders if the average 18-19 year old (depending on the tournament age qualifying date) might have enjoyed a ten day Play Station stint ๐Ÿ™‚

    some will no doubt! The issue is those that don't, and how that plays out if they struggle (particuarly if they had a bad tournament/got injured/have other life issues).

    But I am surprised the Black Cap's can't get slots. Maybe they need to DJ?

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    White and NZC weren't proactive and were banking on free trans- Ta$man movement, or at least home quarantine. They got MIQ slots for the 3 visiting teams.

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