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  • voodooV Offline
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    Some of you may have seen that silly Zinny article the other day where he selected BB at #10 in his all time 15. Best 10 ever.

    He also left out McCaw, but at least you can make a case for MJ.

    Anyway, I commented to mates that BB was a wonderful player, but wouldn't be in my top 20 in the #10 jumper. Probably an exaggeration, but I was trying to make a point.

    Got us thinking, what is the list of greatest 10's of all time? Who do you want steering the ship on the biggest stage?

    Get em in.

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    Link to the article?

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    @tim it's actually from Dec

    Rugby Rucker  /  Dec 4, 2021

    Zinzan Brooke omits Dan Carter and Richie McCaw out of his all-time XV - Ruck

    Zinzan Brooke omits Dan Carter and Richie McCaw out of his all-time XV - Ruck

    Zinzan Brooke picks his all-time rugby XV, but there is no room in his team for All Black legends Dan Carter and Richie McCaw. One of the most gifted players…

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    @voodoo Thanks dude. Zinny looking very red in that article.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @voodoo said in GOAT 10:

    @tim it's actually from Dec

    Rugby Rucker  /  Dec 4, 2021

    Zinzan Brooke omits Dan Carter and Richie McCaw out of his all-time XV - Ruck

    Zinzan Brooke omits Dan Carter and Richie McCaw out of his all-time XV - Ruck

    Zinzan Brooke picks his all-time rugby XV, but there is no room in his team for All Black legends Dan Carter and Richie McCaw. One of the most gifted players…

    Zinny been on the piss.

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    No brain in that giant melon??

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    Dude still hasn't recovered from the head knock he took in Spain.

    I assumed he'd have picked Wilkinson so was surprised to see it was BB. Not sure how any rational thinker can look at their respective careers and then plump for BB.

    TBH, due to the fact he played with MJ I wouldn't have been surprised if he opted for him at 7, but I think he's selected Reeves as the 7?

    Oh, and to the question asked in the OP - DC and then daylight.

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    He's just writing for his audience, he makes his money in UK now, gotta kiss that ass

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    DC is the GOAT there is no argument.

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  • FrankF Offline
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    @mariner4life said in GOAT 10:

    No brain in that giant melon??

    I remember Marc Ellis saying he needs a beanbag for a pillow.

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    @voodoo
    A quote from the article.

    One of the most gifted players in history. A No 8 with the carrying ability of a tight-forward and the passing and kicking skills of an out-half. A World Cup winner who spent a decade at the top of the game.

    This is generally not a good thing.

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    @chris said in GOAT 10:

    @voodoo said in GOAT 10:

    @tim it's actually from Dec

    Rugby Rucker  /  Dec 4, 2021

    Zinzan Brooke omits Dan Carter and Richie McCaw out of his all-time XV - Ruck

    Zinzan Brooke omits Dan Carter and Richie McCaw out of his all-time XV - Ruck

    Zinzan Brooke picks his all-time rugby XV, but there is no room in his team for All Black legends Dan Carter and Richie McCaw. One of the most gifted players…

    Zinny been on the piss.

    Taxi for Mr Brooke....

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    @voodoo said in GOAT 10:

    He also left out McCaw, but at least you can make a case for MJ.

    Difficult one. The three best loose forwards I've seen are MJ & McCaw and Ian Kirkpatrick and it's hard to not pick all three of them.

    Got us thinking, what is the list of greatest 10's of all time?

    The best 10 I've seen is DC, and it's not even close. Then it's Hugo Porta, Wilkinson & Michael Lynagh but for me. Gotta mention Ireland's Mike Gibson too. Different type of 10 who was shunted all over the backline, but smart rugby brains like Meads and Laidlaw didn't praise him to the skies for nothing.

    It's hard to pick a single weakness in DC's game - defence, controlling a game, kicking, passing, positional play and ripping an opposition apart. And he did it for years almost right from his first game (can't recall a bad game) and wasn't phased when his forwards were under pressure.

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    @machpants said in GOAT 10:

    He's just writing for his audience, he makes his money in UK now, gotta kiss that ass

    Which would explain his selection of just one UK player 🙄

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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    Anyway to answer the initial question.

    1. Carter

    After that there are a number that could call dibs on second place: Barry John, Porta, Lynagh, Mark Ella, Wilkinson, Larkham. They all had realative weaknesses in their game and much would depend on how important you view those weaknesses.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @catogrande said in GOAT 10:

    @machpants said in GOAT 10:

    He's just writing for his audience, he makes his money in UK now, gotta kiss that ass

    Which would explain his selection of just one UK player 🙄

    And it was Gareth Edwards at 9, FFS. May be heresy for some, but Edwards was nowhere near the best halfback of all time, not even for Wales. Sid Going ran rings round him, game after game, and Sid couldn't even pass properly.

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    @catogrande said in GOAT 10:

    @machpants said in GOAT 10:

    He's just writing for his audience, he makes his money in UK now, gotta kiss that ass

    Which would explain his selection of just one UK player 🙄

    You don't expect me to read any article which espouses a best ever XV without Carter at 10? Good, cos I won't. I just guessed at the rest 😜

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    @machpants said in GOAT 10:

    @catogrande said in GOAT 10:

    @machpants said in GOAT 10:

    He's just writing for his audience, he makes his money in UK now, gotta kiss that ass

    Which would explain his selection of just one UK player 🙄

    You don't expect me to read any article which espouses a best ever XV without Carter at 10? Good, cos I won't. I just guessed at the rest 😜

    You have cemented yourself as a true Ferner of the highest order. Well done sir!

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    Oh Zinny, just more anti-Crusader stuff coming out of Auckland 😉

    Said it a million times, but Carter’s defence and sweeping boot (both feet) alone put him above other 1st 5s I have ever seen. Then add the goal kicking, the running and passing game and you have one helluva player running the cutter.

    Barrett is a talented footy player that has amazing instincts. Pace on a 10 I’ve never seen, but his kicking game is suspect and he has struggled setting up the backline.

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  • voodooV Offline
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    So, back to my original question, does anyone have BB in the top 10? Top 20?

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