Musk & Twitter
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@Kid-Chocolate said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
See thread title.
That doesn't really answer the question. I would guess you think that this means that the censorship will reduce.
Ok, but how will that change the platform? More ideas from both sides? Short term toy throws and abandonment from the hard left?
I don't see how anything at the top level will change it. It's taken the worst of humanity and made it available for all, and in turn, degraded humanity.
that simply won't change.
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@MajorRage The first thing managemengt can investigate — and change — is their thumb-on-the-butcher-scale algorithms.
The game has been rigged.
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@Kirwan said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
@No-Quarter said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
@Tim yeah that's weird. I hope he's just talking about all the people that want blue checks but don't get them because their politics are wrong. Getting rid of anonymity would be a huge mistake.
He wants to get rid of bots, no problem with that. And anybody that wants to be verified should be able to, at the moment it's pretty difficult. That will cut down on harassment and impersonation.
He's not said anything about anonymity as far as I've seen.
Musk is probably just recognising reality as governments regulate Social media.
There's new legislation in the UK in the coming year, part of which is people on, say, Twitter, will have the option to not view or interact with people who have not verified their identity. Anonymity - and free speech which isn't harmful - is protected and the definition of what is harmful is determined by Parliament and not Twitter nor other social media platforms.
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@MajorRage In no way am I defending twitter. I hardly ever go on it now but all that will happen is we will exchange one form of right on, left wing uber woke censorship for a different form based on whatever an entitled egoist decides is the truth. Lets face it he has plenty of form.
It will still be a totally fucked up platform just with a different hue.
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@dogmeat said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
@MajorRage In no way am I defending twitter. I hardly ever go on it now but all that will happen is we will exchange one form of right on, left wing uber woke censorship for a different form based on whatever an entitled egoist decides is the truth. Lets face it he has plenty of form.
It will still be a totally fucked up platform just with a different hue.
Yawn. Judge him by what he does, not what the cry babies on there think he will do.
So far he's going out of the way to say he won't be doing that, and both sides of the spectrum will now be allowed in this "digital town square". Will that improve the site? Maybe not, two groups yelling at each other doesn't make for a great product.
What it does mean is that you won't get removed from the site if you don't think a certain way, that's a step towards improvement.
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@Kirwan C'mon Musk has plenty of form shutting down dissenting voices or slandering people that don't agree with him.
He talks a good talk but only walks the walk when it suits. Like anyone.
All I'm saying is I expect that "you won't get removed from the site if you don't think a certain way" will probably mean that you will get removed from the site if you don't think a certain way, it's just that the 'certain way' will be different.
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@dogmeat said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
@Kirwan C'mon Musk has plenty of form shutting down dissenting voices or slandering people that don't agree with him.
He talks a good talk but only walks the walk when it suits. Like anyone.
All I'm saying is I expect that "you won't get removed from the site if you don't think a certain way" will probably mean that you will get removed from the site if you don't think a certain way, it's just that the 'certain way' will be different.
I agree with the first part mostly, but extrapolating personal interactions to how he will run a media platform is pretty lazy thinking.
The way I look at it is the Stephen Fry quote, just because you are offended doesn't make you right. Some people are going to have to defend their opinions now, currently the plaform just removes them.
And there is zero proof that the's going to de-platform left wing voices. Currently he's literally saying the opposite.
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@Kirwan I agree with everything you said.
I really couldn't give a shit. Twitter was a good concept corrupted by ideology. I just don't think Musk is going to turn it from the cesspit it currently is into anything that will mean I spend any more time there than I currently do. Which I am sure will devastate my 7 2/3 followers
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@dogmeat said in Tech, monopolies, censorship:
@Kirwan I agree with everything you said.
I really couldn't give a shit. Twitter was a good concept corrupted by ideology. I just don't think Musk is going to turn it from the cesspit it currently is into anything that will mean I spend any more time there than I currently do. Which I am sure will devastate my 7 2/3 followers
I agree, the only way to improve it IMO is for media organisations to stop reporting tweets as news. It has far to much influence for it's actual size and importance.
Then it can go back to people sharing fun stuff and talking shit.
I can think of better things to spend 66 billion on as well.
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One practical thing that will happen from him taking it private, is the compnay will no longer have to pretend to have year on year growth of users. That was gasoline to the bot fire.
Remove bots from this platform, seperate from the free speech issue is a big deal. Bots have been shown to be involved in the election influencing, and driving uncivil discourse in the states - from Russia and China. (Black Lives matter posts on both sides of that issue, for example)
Got to be an easier software problem that getting a car to drive itself.
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