What are you listening to, right now................
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Not any band, singer or song, but this guy's youtube channel is awesome if you want to really understand what's going on in a song or piece of music. Anyone who uses a frequency analyser to explain to non-muso's why Ella Fitzgerald is so bloody great has to be something special...
Well worth a visit.
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@Victor-Meldrew that’s fantastic. Perfect.
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@NZbloke said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Kiss are a funny old band, a few genuine bangers and I think it’s cool that every single member sang on at least one decent track.
They’ll never be one of my absolute favourites but they did some good rock in the day.
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@NZbloke said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Kiss doing disco back in 1979. This was a no.1 single in NZ along with a number of other countries. A novelty song in their catalogue.
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@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@broughie said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Throw back to Stevie Wonder:
He’s no Jay Kay but Stevie went alright I guess
Jay Kay is a good showman and singer but the real star of Jamiroquai was Stuart Zender. Without his bass playing they were pretty average. At least Jay Kay recognised this and always had him up front stage.
His lines made the songs great (helped by the beautiful tones he'd get from those Warwick basses)This is a cover (Roy Ayers) but still, he has improved it.
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@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@broughie said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Throw back to Stevie Wonder:
He’s no Jay Kay but Stevie went alright I guess
Jay Kay is a good showman and singer but the real star of Jamiroquai was Stuart Zender. Without his bass playing they were pretty average. At least Jay Kay recognised this and always had him up front stage.
His lines made the songs great (helped by the beautiful tones he'd get from those Warwick basses)This is a cover (Roy Ayers) but still, he has improved it.
Yep, awesome bass player but then again the whole band are absolutely top notch. SOOOOOOOOOOO tight when you see them live ( not that I have but I’ve seen lots on DVD and YouTube ) and they do not miss a beat.
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@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@broughie said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Throw back to Stevie Wonder:
He’s no Jay Kay but Stevie went alright I guess
Jay Kay is a good showman and singer but the real star of Jamiroquai was Stuart Zender. Without his bass playing they were pretty average. At least Jay Kay recognised this and always had him up front stage.
His lines made the songs great (helped by the beautiful tones he'd get from those Warwick basses)This is a cover (Roy Ayers) but still, he has improved it.
Can't agree with you there. The star is Jay Kay, no question. Bassist maybe the best musician but he ain't the star.
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@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@broughie said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Throw back to Stevie Wonder:
He’s no Jay Kay but Stevie went alright I guess
Jay Kay is a good showman and singer but the real star of Jamiroquai was Stuart Zender. Without his bass playing they were pretty average. At least Jay Kay recognised this and always had him up front stage.
His lines made the songs great (helped by the beautiful tones he'd get from those Warwick basses)This is a cover (Roy Ayers) but still, he has improved it.
Can't agree with you there. The star is Jay Kay, no question. Bassist maybe the best musician but he ain't the star.
Poor choice of words perhaps. Of course Jay Kay is the star of the show.
IMO though the point of difference that makes their music good was Zender. His grooves (along with the drummer) give Jay Kay the stuff to work off.
Maybe with an average bass player they would have had a hit or two along with contemporaries like BNH or Soul II Soul but I still think that Zander's work took them a level above and provided whole albums of listenable music.
It was the music that got them noticed first then one (brilliant) video that took them to stardom. Jay Kay the 'star' factor that held them there. The guy has stage presence and wears silly hats but is a bit of a tosser personality wise.
These guys came from a very small label with no track record of promotion to this scale.The support to my opinion comes from their history since Zender left and how no one gives a shit about Kay.
(All just my opinion of course)
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@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@broughie said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Throw back to Stevie Wonder:
He’s no Jay Kay but Stevie went alright I guess
Jay Kay is a good showman and singer but the real star of Jamiroquai was Stuart Zender. Without his bass playing they were pretty average. At least Jay Kay recognised this and always had him up front stage.
His lines made the songs great (helped by the beautiful tones he'd get from those Warwick basses)This is a cover (Roy Ayers) but still, he has improved it.
Can't agree with you there. The star is Jay Kay, no question. Bassist maybe the best musician but he ain't the star.
Poor choice of words perhaps. Of course Jay Kay is the star of the show.
IMO though the point of difference that makes their music good was Zender. His grooves (along with the drummer) give Jay Kay the stuff to work off.
Maybe with an average bass player they would have had a hit or two along with contemporaries like BNH or Soul II Soul but I still think that Zander's work took them a level above and provided whole albums of listenable music.
It was the music that got them noticed first then one (brilliant) video that took them to stardom. Jay Kay the 'star' factor that held them there. The guy has stage presence and wears silly hats but is a bit of a tosser personality wise.
These guys came from a very small label with no track record of promotion to this scale.The support to my opinion comes from their history since Zender left and how no one gives a shit about Kay.
(All just my opinion of course)
The bass player they have now is more than handy. Not sure Zender leaving has had that much impact !
……and being a tosser is hardly unusual for a rock star after all
In terms of no one giving a shit I think that’s just the natural progression of a band that’s been going 30 years, pretty hard to maintain the momentum without releasing some pretty ordinary stuff.
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@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@broughie said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Throw back to Stevie Wonder:
He’s no Jay Kay but Stevie went alright I guess
Jay Kay is a good showman and singer but the real star of Jamiroquai was Stuart Zender. Without his bass playing they were pretty average. At least Jay Kay recognised this and always had him up front stage.
His lines made the songs great (helped by the beautiful tones he'd get from those Warwick basses)This is a cover (Roy Ayers) but still, he has improved it.
Can't agree with you there. The star is Jay Kay, no question. Bassist maybe the best musician but he ain't the star.
Poor choice of words perhaps. Of course Jay Kay is the star of the show.
IMO though the point of difference that makes their music good was Zender. His grooves (along with the drummer) give Jay Kay the stuff to work off.
Maybe with an average bass player they would have had a hit or two along with contemporaries like BNH or Soul II Soul but I still think that Zander's work took them a level above and provided whole albums of listenable music.
It was the music that got them noticed first then one (brilliant) video that took them to stardom. Jay Kay the 'star' factor that held them there. The guy has stage presence and wears silly hats but is a bit of a tosser personality wise.
These guys came from a very small label with no track record of promotion to this scale.The support to my opinion comes from their history since Zender left and how no one gives a shit about Kay.
(All just my opinion of course)
The bass player they have now is more than handy. Not sure Zender leaving has had that much impact !
……and being a tosser is hardly unusual for a rock star after all
In terms of no one giving a shit I think that’s just the natural progression of a band that’s been going 30 years, pretty hard to maintain the momentum without releasing some pretty ordinary stuff.
Good players since, yeah but their lines are nowhere near as good. One of the reasons so many of Jamiroquais band members left (all the those in their heyday) was that Jay Kay failed to recognise their contributions. The band added so much to the compositions.
There was a strange deal when they moved to Sony. It was signed only by Kay (not the band) with promises that he would share the spoils based on input.
The album where they erased and re-recorded all of Zenders tracks was the beginning of the end as far as decent new stuff went and they moved away from the funk grooves that made them.
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@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@NZbloke said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Kiss are a funny old band, a few genuine bangers and I think it’s cool that every single member sang on at least one decent track.
They’ll never be one of my absolute favourites but they did some good rock in the day.
Yeah, they only had a few good songs, that one was probably their best.
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@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@broughie said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Throw back to Stevie Wonder:
He’s no Jay Kay but Stevie went alright I guess
Jay Kay is a good showman and singer but the real star of Jamiroquai was Stuart Zender. Without his bass playing they were pretty average. At least Jay Kay recognised this and always had him up front stage.
His lines made the songs great (helped by the beautiful tones he'd get from those Warwick basses)This is a cover (Roy Ayers) but still, he has improved it.
Can't agree with you there. The star is Jay Kay, no question. Bassist maybe the best musician but he ain't the star.
Poor choice of words perhaps. Of course Jay Kay is the star of the show.
IMO though the point of difference that makes their music good was Zender. His grooves (along with the drummer) give Jay Kay the stuff to work off.
Maybe with an average bass player they would have had a hit or two along with contemporaries like BNH or Soul II Soul but I still think that Zander's work took them a level above and provided whole albums of listenable music.
It was the music that got them noticed first then one (brilliant) video that took them to stardom. Jay Kay the 'star' factor that held them there. The guy has stage presence and wears silly hats but is a bit of a tosser personality wise.
These guys came from a very small label with no track record of promotion to this scale.The support to my opinion comes from their history since Zender left and how no one gives a shit about Kay.
(All just my opinion of course)
I do know what you mean, I think.
I've often wondered these sorts of things about other bands I've seen. Generally, you'd say the singer is usually the star, but I can think of countless others where, for me, I'm going to see them live for others. Most obvious recent example is Carey in Tool, but this also applies to Chilii's (Frusciante / Flea), Ozzy Osbourne (Wylde) to name just a few.
I just don't think this applies to Jamiroquai. Regardless of what you think of him, Jay Kay is the star & he's a phenomenal front man. Yeah, there's always politics around these bands, but some of them are understandable. If you are playing to 20,000 people and you know that 19,000 of them ar there to see you, why do you divide things equally?
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@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@Crucial said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@broughie said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Throw back to Stevie Wonder:
He’s no Jay Kay but Stevie went alright I guess
Jay Kay is a good showman and singer but the real star of Jamiroquai was Stuart Zender. Without his bass playing they were pretty average. At least Jay Kay recognised this and always had him up front stage.
His lines made the songs great (helped by the beautiful tones he'd get from those Warwick basses)This is a cover (Roy Ayers) but still, he has improved it.
Can't agree with you there. The star is Jay Kay, no question. Bassist maybe the best musician but he ain't the star.
Poor choice of words perhaps. Of course Jay Kay is the star of the show.
IMO though the point of difference that makes their music good was Zender. His grooves (along with the drummer) give Jay Kay the stuff to work off.
Maybe with an average bass player they would have had a hit or two along with contemporaries like BNH or Soul II Soul but I still think that Zander's work took them a level above and provided whole albums of listenable music.
It was the music that got them noticed first then one (brilliant) video that took them to stardom. Jay Kay the 'star' factor that held them there. The guy has stage presence and wears silly hats but is a bit of a tosser personality wise.
These guys came from a very small label with no track record of promotion to this scale.The support to my opinion comes from their history since Zender left and how no one gives a shit about Kay.
(All just my opinion of course)
I do know what you mean, I think.
I've often wondered these sorts of things about other bands I've seen. Generally, you'd say the singer is usually the star, but I can think of countless others where, for me, I'm going to see them live for others. Most obvious recent example is Carey in Tool, but this also applies to Chilii's (Frusciante / Flea), Ozzy Osbourne (Wylde) to name just a few.
I just don't think this applies to Jamiroquai. Regardless of what you think of him, Jay Kay is the star & he's a phenomenal front man. Yeah, there's always politics around these bands, but some of them are understandable. If you are playing to 20,000 people and you know that 19,000 of them ar there to see you, why do you divide things equally?
I think the best example of that is AC/DC.
Bon Scott ( and latterly Brian Johnson ) were/are absolutely terrific frontmen. Angus Young isn’t quite as amazing a guitarist as people think but still very good and obviously visually great fun the way he prances round the stage in his school uniform.
But the other three guys ?
ANY competent pub rocker could fill in without too much notice. I get the discipline to play rock steady rhythm with little to no fills or improvising but pay me to do it and I’ll shelve all my fancy bass tricks right then and there and play some steady eighths in a heartbeat.
This is not to say I don’t love AC/DC, I do, they do their one trick superbly but the talent and uniqueness is only evident in 40% of the band.
( actually pretty rough on Malcolm Young, he wrote loads of their riffs )
Bass Player and Drummer though ?
The fact that Phil Rudd can play with a ciggy out of his mouth indicates he isn’t trying too hard.
I’m also fairly positive I’ve never seen Cliff Williams go past the fifth fret.
