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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    #2002

    @number9 do you think he's just trying to prove he's as good a coach as razor? "oh...you can get bridge to score tries?....by god so can i!"...."ennor plays on the regular for you?...he will for me too!"

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    To be honest, it won't surprise me if Ennor makes the squad. Personally, I'd pick Bailyn Sullivan over him, but we are very thin on specialist centres with ALB injured. Rieko and...???

    Hopefully Sullivan's injury isn't too serious as he would be the closest to a like-for-like replacement for Ioane. If Rieko got injured they would need to be confident in his replacement, and I don't think Ennor is that player.

    That's the big question - who is Fozzie going to trust?

    I'd guess the Fern consensus (what there is of it) would probably pick Goodhue, Tupaea, RTS, Rieko and Sullivan.

    But, that is very thin on experience - if Rieko does his hammy in Test 1!!!

    Even though Dave Havili hasn't been playing particularly well, I suspect he's at least in the frame, because he's been there, so Fozzie's got some trust.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    Even though Dave Havili hasn't been playing particularly well, I suspect he's at least in the frame, because he's been there, so Fozzie's got some trust

    that's an extraordinary thing to read.

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    #2005

    @mariner4life In what way?

    Dave was clearly Fozzie's man for 12 last year - he picked him a dozen times and ran him into the ground.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    @mariner4life In what way?

    Dave was clearly Fozzie's man for 12 last year - he picked him a dozen times and ran him into the ground.

    because he was poor last year at test level. Has been pretty average this year at Super level

    But he'll get picked because he's been there before. It's this kind of shit that gets the punters offside.

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    @Chris-B probably what he is saying is that it is extraordinary that Foster still thinks he is a 12 when most of us don’t. I understand your rational for Fosters thinking but that highlights Fosters weakness as a coach for a position he never deserved.

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    @mariner4life It's a tough job being the All Black coach - I guess that's why he gets the big bucks. 🙂

    Fozzie could have picked Tupaea more last year, but he didn't. Makes you wonder why not.

    Dave is far from a cast iron certainty, but they will spend a lot of time picking their midfield, because they have some big problems there - and his name will get mentioned a lot.

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    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B probably what he is saying is that it is extraordinary that Foster still thinks he is a 12 when most of us don’t. I understand your rational for Fosters thinking but that highlights Fosters weakness as a coach for a position he never deserved.

    Doesn't Razor select him at 12 as well? Must be as dumb as Fozzie.

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    @broughie Compared to us - Fozzie's got to take the heat for any fuck-ups.

    Even if he picks the Fern consensus team, if the ABs lose and a few newbies shit the bed - that's his incompetence, not ours - and we will roast him for it! 🙂

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    @Crucial Maybe he doesn’t have any other options at 12 but is he really an AB 12?

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    @Chris-B It’s how it should be. He is getting the big bucks.

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    @Chris-B I didn’t really care if we lose as long as we are moving in the right direction. It’s not happening under Fozzy though.

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B probably what he is saying is that it is extraordinary that Foster still thinks he is a 12 when most of us don’t. I understand your rational for Fosters thinking but that highlights Fosters weakness as a coach for a position he never deserved.

    Doesn't Razor select him at 12 as well? Must be as dumb as Fozzie.

    I'm sure someone else has mentioned it, but that's the last position available in the Crusaders backline. He can't play at fullback as Jordan has a lock on that.

    His feet into contact aren't as good as RTS'. His dynamism into contact isn't as good as Tupaea's or Goodhue's. He's not a dominant tackler. He's good at a lot of things and brilliant at Test level at none. His versatility might get him into the squad but he's not a compelling argument to start.

    Fozzie will no doubt think differently because he has form for not taking selection risks.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    @broughie Compared to us - Fozzie's got to take the heat for any fuck-ups.

    Even if he picks the Fern consensus team, if the ABs lose and a few newbies shit the bed - that's his incompetence, not ours - and we will roast him for it! 🙂

    damn fucking right

    you know what, a far more amount of slack would be given with a little more transparency around selection. If Foster communicated with some clarity, and people could see a plan, then there would be a heap more understanding.

    I would love to know the selection strategy.
    In my mind, you idntify how you want to play, pick the 23 players that will best carry out that plan, then pick the next 13 players that you can swap in to the top 23 with the least disruption (ie like for like)
    I doubt that's that situation at the moment. So what is the fucking process?

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    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B I didn’t really care if we lose as long as we are moving in the right direction. It’s not happening under Fozzy though.

    To be fair, we haven't seen Fozzie's team this year yet - and me second-guessing what he's thinking is quite a bit different to what he's really thinking. 🙂

    I think we're making some progress in the right direction. I'm of the opinion that we were probably running out of gas by the time we hit Ireland and France last year, so this series will be a good indicator of whether that's true - or if we've really fallen behind.

    I hope we don't lose any more key players in the next couple of weeks.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B I didn’t really care if we lose as long as we are moving in the right direction. It’s not happening under Fozzy though.

    To be fair, we haven't seen Fozzie's team this year yet - and me second-guessing what he's thinking is quite a bit different to what he's really thinking. 🙂

    I think we're making some progress in the right direction. I'm of the opinion that we were probably running out of gas by the time we hit Ireland and France last year, so this series will be a good indicator of whether that's true - or if we've really fallen behind.

    I hope we don't lose any more key players in the next couple of weeks.

    @Chris-B True and Fozzie might land on his feet but he is still crap. Sorry but I have never appreciated his abilities. As mariner said he hoped we lose in a perverse way because it will be the final nail in Fozzies coffin.

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    #2018

    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B I didn’t really care if we lose as long as we are moving in the right direction. It’s not happening under Fozzy though.

    To be fair, we haven't seen Fozzie's team this year yet - and me second-guessing what he's thinking is quite a bit different to what he's really thinking. 🙂

    I think we're making some progress in the right direction. I'm of the opinion that we were probably running out of gas by the time we hit Ireland and France last year, so this series will be a good indicator of whether that's true - or if we've really fallen behind.

    I hope we don't lose any more key players in the next couple of weeks.

    @Chris-B True and Fozzie might land on his feet but he is still crap. Sorry but I have never appreciated his abilities. As mariner said he hoped we lose in a perverse way because it will be the final nail in Fozzies coffin.

    i did?

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    #2019

    @mariner4life I thought you did but maybe I’m wrong.

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    @broughie I don't think we are close to nailing Fozzie's coffin shut, so we might as well win! 🙂

    I think we will have to endure a disastrous season - worse than 1999 - for him to get sacked/fall on his sword.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    @broughie I don't think we are close to nailing Fozzie's coffin shut, so we might as well win! 🙂

    I think we will have to endure a disastrous season - worse than 1999 - for him to get sacked/fall on his sword.

    Yeah mean what might happen this year with 3 tests against Ireland.2 tests in SA and England on the end of year tour.Plus I think a much better Wallabies side.
    Might be some disaster in that lot.Unless Foster and Co have improved 100% from the last 2 seasons.

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