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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="587440" data-time="1465801974"><p>
    Ardie has one major drawback, Twattue wants him to start over Cane...</p></blockquote>
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    Really? Dammit, that's farked up his career. That cnut has the reverse Midas touch.

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    <p>I didn't pay enough attention to this on Saturday. How did Pat T go in the scrums on Saturday? I saw him disrupt lineout ball and charge around the field to great effect. But a couple of years ago a double substitution of him and Charlie F in a few tests had us struggling. </p>

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    <p>Agree Ardie will be doing a fair few 20 minute shifts. Unless Cane screws up his chance. I want to see Dixon get a start and a long examination. Kaino needs to be looked after now too at 33. </p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="reddog" data-cid="587738" data-time="1465877025">
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    <p>I didn't pay enough attention to this on Saturday. How did Pat T go in the scrums on Saturday? I saw him disrupt lineout ball and charge around the field to great effect. But a couple of years ago a double substitution of him and Charlie F in a few tests had us struggling. </p>
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    <p>From memory the scrums were fine when he and Charlie came on but I suspect those big Welsh teletubbies were conserving their energy at that point.</p>

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    Dagg replaces Savea.<br>
    Whitelock replaces Romano.<br><br>
    Bench remains the same.

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    <p>The team is (with Test caps in brackets):<br><br><strong>Starting XV</strong><br><br>
    1. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2400'>Joe Moody</a> (12)<br>
    2. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1396'>Dane Coles</a> (37)<br>
    3. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1825'>Owen Franks</a> (79)<br>
    4. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2131'>Brodie Retallick</a> (48)<br>
    5. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1800'>Sam Whitelock</a> (73)<br>
    6. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/539'>Jerome Kaino</a> (68)<br>
    7. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1922'>Sam Cane</a> (32)<br>
    8. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1282'>Kieran Read</a> â€“ captain (85)<br>
    9. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1856'>Aaron Smith</a> (48)<br>
    10. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1900'>Aaron Cruden</a> (38)<br>
    11. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2121'>Waisake Naholo</a>(4)<br>
    12. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1784'>Ryan Crotty</a> (16)<br>
    13. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2399'>Malakai Fekitoa</a> (14)<br>
    14. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1832'>Ben Smith</a> (49)<br>
    15. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1620'>Israel Dagg</a> (49)<br><br><strong>Reserves</strong><br><br>
    16. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2170'>Nathan Harris</a> (3)<br>
    17. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1466'>Wyatt Crockett</a> (46)<br>
    18. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1824'>Charlie Faumuina</a> (34)<br>
    19. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2152'>Patrick Tuipulotu</a> (8)<br>
    20.<strong> </strong><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2134'>Ardie Savea</a> (1)<br>
    21. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2122'>TJ Perenara</a> (17)<br>
    22. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/1965'>Beauden Barrett</a> (36)<br>
    23. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/Player/AllBlacks/2578'>Seta Tamanivalu</a> (1)<br><br>
    The All Blacks matchday 23 features just two changes from the team that played last weekend’s opening Test match: 73-Test lock Samuel Whitelock returns to the side, replacing Luke Romano, while Israel Dagg has been named at fullback for what will be his 50th Test match, with Ben Smith, who is also playing his 50th Test, moving to the left wing, replacing Julian Savea. The bench is unchanged.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com'>www.allblacks.com</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Congratulations to Israel Dagg and Ben Smith on their 50th test.<br>
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    <p>Great :ireful: :truce:</p>

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    <p>That's exactly the change I hoped they would make. Jules out, Izzy in, Naholo to the left and Bender to the right wing.</p>

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    Another totally predictable team. <br><br>
    With which I am entirely happy. <br><br>
    Add in NMS due back for the EOYT and the coaches seeing Naholo as an 11 option: you've been warned Julian. <br><br>
    Expect the highlander lads en masse for carisbrook.

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    #61

    <p>Axing of Savea had to be done. Hopefully Savea will look to Dagg as motivation to get back into the starting XV. Dagg is going to be into everything on Saturday, so I'm excited to see what he does. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Retallick / Whitelock / Tuipulotu - awesome locking trio.</p>

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    sparky
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    #62

    <p>Really exciting 23.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Hopefully Ardie Savea laying down the gauntlet spectacularly last week will bring the very best out of Sam Cane.</p>

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    Hopefully Harris laying down the gauntlet spectacularly last week will bring the very best out of Coles.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="588399" data-time="1466014019"><p>Hopefully Harris laying down the gauntlet spectacularly last week will bring the very best out of Coles.</p></blockquote>
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    The Harris Vs Taylor Vs Coles debate. Bring it on! <br><br>
    Not sure I'd ditch Dane Coles just yet though.

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    He was average. Harris scored a try, he's a gazillion miles better.

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    <p>The writing was on the wall when they moved Naholo over to the left , </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>And not so much that Savea would be dropped , but more so that these two may be competing for the same spot soon </p>

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    <p>So glad they ponied up and dropped Savea.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="588423" data-time="1466019792"><p>
    So glad they ponied up and dropped Savea.</p></blockquote>
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    Me too, it's not a World Cup year. They can't spend all season getting him fit.<br><br>
    Interested to see how he responds for the remainder of the super season

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    Hooroo
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="588425" data-time="1466020027">
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    <p>Me too, it's not a World Cup year. They can't spend all season getting him fit.<br><br>
    Interested to see how he responds for the remainder of the super season</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Yeah, me too. I just think it's a bit sad that this is the thing he needs to ignite him rather than just being so damn proud to be an All Black that he doesn't train his bum off!!</p>

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    You know you are over flowing with options when you can drop a guy who has scored 39 tries from only 42 tests.

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    The defensive balance of the back 3 is similar to earlier ones when we played Dagg and Jane. I'm interested to see if Dagg steps it up on attack

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