All Blacks 2022
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@98blueandgold said in All Blacks 2022:
Ofa out of tour, Newell in
A good thing? See what he has got.
I would rather Newell a bit later when he has earnt his selection (and that not knocking him), by that I mean when he has gone good enough to get selected ahead of other players on form and not injury!
Then who is the next TH if not Newell on form ?.
Probably Jager.
Interesting that Ryan started Jager in play-off matches ahead of Newell, but pretty much his first call as an AB coach is to pick the younger guy with the high ceiling.
I'm hoping (and somewhat expecting) this is going to be Newell's Owen Franks moment. Fletch is already 6 months older than Owen was when he made his test debut - and actually, I'm pretty sure Redbeard announced this as a Fern scoop - that Owen was in - might have got the word from Keith Robinson.
According to this Angus should be well available to start vs the Boks (I imagine he did the course) and I guess the question will be whether Lomax or Newell comes off the bench. Angus seems to be a significantly more reliable scrummager these days, so I'm interested to see how he goes in a big test.
I haven't ever seen an explanation for Lomax's performance against the Tahs - so I'm a bit apprehensive about him. He's remained in the promising camp, but needs to deliver or he'll miss the bus.
Interesting times when losing two veteran tightheads doesn't have me worried - they should be worried!
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@98blueandgold said in All Blacks 2022:
Ofa out of tour, Newell in
A good thing? See what he has got.
I would rather Newell a bit later when he has earnt his selection (and that not knocking him), by that I mean when he has gone good enough to get selected ahead of other players on form and not injury!
Then who is the next TH if not Newell on form ?.
Probably Jager.
Interesting that Ryan started Jager in play-off matches ahead of Newell, but pretty much his first call as an AB coach is to pick the younger guy with the high ceiling.
sounds like he might actually get the brief, play off match...play "the best" or "most experience"....squad player that shound't have to play much and if he does it should be off the bench...blood the young guy with a big future
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@Kiwiwomble Yeah - I've never been hugely excited about Jager. He's taken a long time to get to good Super rugby standard.
Fletch is exciting - though still very raw, especially in general play - and I'd have expected him to surpass Oli during next year's Super season in any case.
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@Chris-B similarly, Ofa...he can be very good one scrum/week, and be destroyed the next scrum/week! Shame as he is one the better ball runners and defenders (with the obvious card issues)
As for RB on Franks, would likely have been Hoeft that told him, isnt he is Brother - in - law?
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@taniwharugby Could have been.
Pretty sure he was mates with KR as well, and I've got a feeling KR had some involvement with the ABs (or maybe the Chiefs) at the time.
A choice of sauces is always good!
I do pretty much recall him telling us he had the good oil - and so it proved to be.
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@broughie Oli Jager?
Until this year he's never seemed like a strong enough scrummager to me.
Given that he's an Irishman originally, I've been somewhat biased against him and his seemingly slow development. Wondered why the Crusaders persisted with him, when for several years he was pretty much just a squaddie and occupying a spot that could have been taken by an NZ-qualified prop.
However, he has come good this year and might be able to step up to the ABs if required.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B I think his slow development may have something to do with the fact that he started as a loosie. I think it was Jason Ryan who decided to turn him into a prop.
Not sure about that? I think he was already playing prop when he arrived.
Oliver Jager: From the SCT to rubbing shoulders with Kieran Read
Oliver Jager has overcome an ACL rupture to cement place in Canterbury Academy
He had played with Leinster and Ireland Schools, but there was no academy place in the pipeline, so undaunted, and showing remarkable maturity, he headed for Christchurch and a course called the international high performance unit at the Canterbury Crusaders. Jager takes up the story. "You train with the Canterbury Academy. You do their specialist programme. You are basically part of the programme except you have to pay for it. I did that for a month, to see what professional rugby was like in New Zealand and just play a bit of rugby somewhere other than Ireland. “After a month, I thought I’d done alright, but they asked me to come back and play a whole season.” He’d travelled to New Zealand with an impressive rugby pedigree. He started playing in Naas RFC and after a year at Newbridge College moved to Blackrock, winning JCT and SCT medals, the first as a flanker and the second as a **tighthead prop** – his preferred position and the one he plays today.. -
@gt12 Found it. This article from 2016 is where I probably read it.
Although his goal was to play for Canterbury, Jager only thought his time at Rugby Park would essentially be a learning experience.
He arrived as a No 8 but after discussions with academy coach - and now Canterbury assistant - Jason Ryan he decided to focus on the front row.
"There's always a shortage of tighthead props so we worked out a plan. He hooked into some club footy and he's never looked back," said Ryan. -
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B similarly, Ofa...he can be very good one scrum/week, and be destroyed the next scrum/week! Shame as he is one the better ball runners and defenders (with the obvious card issues)
As for RB on Franks, would likely have been Hoeft that told him, isnt he is Brother - in - law?
Yep, pretty sure he was. That new poster @BartMan might confirm as part of the Thames / Te Aroha clan.
Ofa’s play has gone off the boil in my opinion. Him, Taylor and Laulala have been horribly out of form
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Ofa with an update on his injury -
"Tough call not to travel away with the team. Nothing major, just a couple of weeks to let the Cervical nerves settle down".
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:
Ofa with an update on his injury -
"Tough call not to travel away with the team. Nothing major, just a couple of weeks to let the Cervical nerves settle down".
Incredible photo to use!
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@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:
Ofa with an update on his injury -
"Tough call not to travel away with the team. Nothing major, just a couple of weeks to let the Cervical nerves settle down".
Incredible photo to use!
"Sorry that I head butted you maaaaaate"
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@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:
Ofa with an update on his injury -
"Tough call not to travel away with the team. Nothing major, just a couple of weeks to let the Cervical nerves settle down".
Incredible photo to use!
Look where bundee O'Aki 's hand is, damaging his neck, the bastard!
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:
Ofa with an update on his injury -
"Tough call not to travel away with the team. Nothing major, just a couple of weeks to let the Cervical nerves settle down".
Incredible photo to use!
Look where bundee O'Aki 's hand is, damaging his neck, the bastard!
Either that or looking for some chicken to steal
All Blacks star suspended for three weeks
