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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Wairau said in British Politics:
Although he makes some valid points, this is exactly why nobody watched GB News.
He needs to learn brevity
Then his words will be more impactful
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WT actual F.
(yes, it's actually true)
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@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Wairau said in British Politics:
Although he makes some valid points, this is exactly why nobody watched GB News.
He needs to learn brevity
Then his words will be more impactful
That doesn’t mean much.
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Results of this could be interesting ....
If court says it's unlawful, it won't stop Jimmy Kranky at all. If they say it is, then it'll be full steam ahead for Jimmy & then ppl might start to take notice.
I personally think they should just fuck off. Nothing but disruptive in parliament and it takes no more than 20 seconds to look at the Scotland fiscal situation to see just how much of a disaster it would be for them. having said that, my 2 fave journalists (Andrew Neil & Fraser Nelson) are both Socttish and fully against independence so maybe I'm too influenced by them.
After all ... when you vote to stay in the UK, then the UK votes to leave the EU whilst you wanted to stay ... you do kind of have a point for second ref.
Lets see! Good timing, as there is fuck all going on here at the moment, no sir .....
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
Results of this could be interesting ....
If court says it's unlawful, it won't stop Jimmy Kranky at all. If they say it is, then it'll be full steam ahead for Jimmy & then ppl might start to take notice.
I personally think they should just fuck off. Nothing but disruptive in parliament and it takes no more than 20 seconds to look at the Scotland fiscal situation to see just how much of a disaster it would be for them. having said that, my 2 fave journalists (Andrew Neil & Fraser Nelson) are both Socttish and fully against independence so maybe I'm too influenced by them.
After all ... when you vote to stay in the UK, then the UK votes to leave the EU whilst you wanted to stay ... you do kind of have a point for second ref.
Lets see! Good timing, as there is fuck all going on here at the moment, no sir .....
No dice
Cue gnashing of teeth and flapping of gums north of the border
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@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
Results of this could be interesting ....
If court says it's unlawful, it won't stop Jimmy Kranky at all. If they say it is, then it'll be full steam ahead for Jimmy & then ppl might start to take notice.
I personally think they should just fuck off. Nothing but disruptive in parliament and it takes no more than 20 seconds to look at the Scotland fiscal situation to see just how much of a disaster it would be for them. having said that, my 2 fave journalists (Andrew Neil & Fraser Nelson) are both Socttish and fully against independence so maybe I'm too influenced by them.
After all ... when you vote to stay in the UK, then the UK votes to leave the EU whilst you wanted to stay ... you do kind of have a point for second ref.
Lets see! Good timing, as there is fuck all going on here at the moment, no sir .....
No dice
Cue gnashing of teeth and flapping of gums north of the border
As you were then 😂
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@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
Results of this could be interesting ....
If court says it's unlawful, it won't stop Jimmy Kranky at all. If they say it is, then it'll be full steam ahead for Jimmy & then ppl might start to take notice.
I personally think they should just fuck off. Nothing but disruptive in parliament and it takes no more than 20 seconds to look at the Scotland fiscal situation to see just how much of a disaster it would be for them. having said that, my 2 fave journalists (Andrew Neil & Fraser Nelson) are both Socttish and fully against independence so maybe I'm too influenced by them.
After all ... when you vote to stay in the UK, then the UK votes to leave the EU whilst you wanted to stay ... you do kind of have a point for second ref.
Lets see! Good timing, as there is fuck all going on here at the moment, no sir .....
No dice
Cue gnashing of teeth and flapping of gums north of the border
It is better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you’re a fool than to go to the Supreme Court and confirm it 😁
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Long-ish post which I could stick anywhere but this seems as good a place as any.
Just finished reading The Long Shot by Kate Bingham The inside story of the UK's successful Covid Vaccine programme which was headed up by the author, the people involved, the approach they took, the obstacles they overcome and the frustrations they felt. Read it with huge interest as (a) I know someone who helped design & test the roll-out processes and (b) I'm an absolute sucker for reading anything about teams which break the rules to get things done and how their mind-processes work.
Firstly, it's anything but self-congratulatory. She actually down-plays her role and gives credit to loads of people and makes sure the unsung heroes like the French police - who made sure the vaccine shipments got to the Channel Tunnel OK - get ample credit. Kate Bingham, though, is clearly a pretty special person, and we were lucky she and others stepped up to the plate, working for free to try and get the UK vaccinated. I'm sure @tim would both understand and enjoy her experiences.
Some fascinating stuff in the book like Merkel & Macron wanting to do a deal with the UK (it was turned down as too risky) to develop and distribute vaccines rather than via the EU - which may account for those two trying to trash the AZ vaccine - and the UK program scope and contracts being written to include the whole supply chain rather than just the final delivery of doses which was the EU approach.
The heroes included the Armed Forces, Drug companies, the MoD contracts team who wrote the contracts, UK industry who seconded people free of charge and with no questions asked, parts of the NHS, the volunteers for the vaccine trials and - surprisingly - the tabloid newspapers who Bingham praises for explaining the different types of vaccines being developed and working to counter anti-vax sentiments, and also Boris Johnson who needed to un-block the bureaucracy to make the program work.
The thing which was staggering to read was how many in government tried to block and/or obstruct the program. These included Hancock, who was pissed off the program wasn't under his Department's control, Sunak's Treasury (who actually demanded VAT be charged on up-front payments to drug companies), Press Officers who leaked information to the press, the National Audit Office who wanted to delay the program until they had spent weeks checking the bona fides of the task force members, and many Opposition MP's (inc. Starmer) who used unfounded accusations of corruption (her husband is a Tory MP) to attack her as being on the make and called for her to be sacked.
She is particularly scathing about the No. 10 Press Head, Lee Cain, who briefed against her (and was eventually sacked by Johnson), The Times and The Guardian. She publishes emails between herself and the latter's editor who begged for an interview with her "as an example of a successful woman" after the success of the program, despite after having targeted her as being unfit for the role for months before hand on the basis she's married to Tory MP.
She and her team clearly achieved a remarkable success both in facilitating the development of vaccines, their purchase and deployment, but also built a foundation to develop and grow a leading-edge vaccine development and manufacturing infrastructure in the UK. What is sad is the infrastructure she set up, the relationships between drug companies and government seems to have been left to wither either thru neglect or deliberately.
Great read which clearly exposes what is right (a bit) and what is badly broken (a lot) in UK government.
Overall a remarkable story by a clearly remarkable woman.
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Yeah but the vaccines don’t work, haven’t you been paying attention?
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Yeah but the vaccines don’t work, haven’t you been paying attention?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Yeah but the vaccines don’t work, haven’t you been paying attention?
Whilst I wouldn’t wish any such suffering on anyone, I’m happy it’s that idiot and not someone else.
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Could go anywhere, but I'll stick it here.
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So Rishi sat down with Piers for an hour last night.
The interview won't change anybody's opinion but he came across very calm, measured and determined to steer the ship in the direction it needs to be going. I wouldn't say Morgan was easy on him, but he certainly could have been a lot harder. Sunak didn't really allow him to talk over the top of him either, keeping himself calm and making his points.
Fair bit of political answering (i.e- not answering) but he made himself pretty clear on what he's trying to implement. Made a nice change, and I'd certainly say that he's probably the best professional communicator since David Cameron.
It's a shame that the trans discussions have to continually come up, but I thought Rishi answered the questions very well. He basically just took the stupidity out of the questions and talked rightly about both sides & why it was so difficult.
He politically failed on the question about Nurses pay / parking charges etc & then there was a huge pause when Morgan asked him how wealthy he was. Awkward.
Regardless, he's doing the things his voters want (certainly not the hard left with his comments about illegal immigration (illegals can fuck off)) & it's undeniable that the country is much more economically stable than it was during the caTrusstophe.
All in all, he came across well. I'm almost 100% sure it's too late for the Tories at the next election, but I can honestly say that right now, there's nobody else I want in that job.
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Your last comment. Is that because you feel Rishi is the right man or just that there seem to be no viable alternatives? Bit of both may be?
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The right man.
If you labeled all the attributes of a perfect PM / President, he doesn’t have all of them. But after the leadership void of May, the blister and bollocks of Boris, the catastrophe of Truss, a calm, measured thinker prepared to make shit decisions is spot on.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
there was a huge pause when Morgan asked him how wealthy he was. Awkward.
I really don't get this obsession the press has with a politician's wealth.
Yeah, you can argue a uber-wealthy PM doesn't understand Joe Public (and Sunak had a pretty average upbringing) but you can equally argue a PM who isn't wealthy doesn't understand rich people enough to encourage investment.
It just snobbery to me. Inverted or otherwise.
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