Planes
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@mantissanet said in Planes:
Assuming thats original 70s flight control systems? Avionics upgrade looks amazingšš»
Yeah looks similar to what the RNZAF would've got
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Saw one of these flying quite slowly from the train near Settle in Yorkshire.
Not a clue what it was doing there, but Menwith Hill is nearby
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Maybe delete this post or move elsewhere. But just read an article on a speech by one of the survivors of this crash. 50 years back late last year
October 13, 1972.
It is one of the better-known survival stories, and will shortly be even better known to a new generation when the Neflix movie directed by J.A.Bayona is released later this year.
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@canefan In the comments of the twitter feed there is a really useful explanatory article.
The feed @booboo posted is a simulation. The actual incident occurred before dawn and in heavy fog, but it seems all that prevented a disaster was the quick actions of the FedEx plane landing.
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Fed Ex says on approach for an instrument landing and is given the OK by Tower
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Swest plane says ready for takeoff (on same runway) and is cleared by tower who don't tell SW to get their skates on at this stage FedEx is 3 miles out
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FedEx questions whether they should be landing on runway a plane is taking off on and tower clears it to proceed
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Tower checks with SW that it is taking off. Important to note given conditions none of the three parties can see each other.
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SW says ready to roll now. This is almost a minute since they previously said they were ready and given the all clear. Tower should have cleared the for an immediate take-off but obviously assumed SW would not be fucking about as they said they were ready to roll
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FedEx pilot sees SW plane on tarmac and takes over does and emergency landing abort and tells SW to abort take off to stop it flying into the FedEx flightpath
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Tower finally realises what is happening and separates the two planes' paths
Article suggest this type of incident has long been predicted
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Unintelligible to all but the parties involved.
"Abort" is a word instantly recognisable to them both for sure.
Most parts of the world you can't be cleared to land until departing aircraft are reasonably assured of taking off well ahead i.e beyond V1 (decision speed) and an RTO (rejected take off) is not possible. From memory FAA rules allow clearance for an "expected" departure or suchlike. A sort of anticipatory thing which reduces separation and allows more movements at busy airfields. It avoids a landing clearance in the flare scenario which is quite common at places like Heathrow.
That was eerily similar to the worst air crash in history.
@Machpants said in Planes:
@booboo Even at double/triple/whatever times seed shows how dull an airline pilots job is!
99.9% of the time. Hours and hours of boredom interspersed with moments of sheer terror is the best description I have heard.
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@dogmeat Haha, something like that. Distracted me from my own disasters for a minute (see the weather thread).
Happy new year to you too. I was a bit of a Warriors fan about this year, who would have thought it could be even more shit than the last two but here it is. It is even literally shit as I have an upside down portaloo lying next to my destroyed house. Really do have to laugh.
I'm actually considering going back to flying, that Tenerife-like incident might have put me off it again (that and the aforementioned boredom, jetlag, sleep deprivation, etc, etc).
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@Snowy Just saw your weather posts. Man that sucks. Still there's gotta be other Epsom bungalows and it least you weren't in it at the time.
I'm going to check on my brothers place on my way home. 50% certain at least part of it will be underneath the Waitemata.
Still in the spirit of Dunkirk I have decided to soldier on and go to the pub tonight - unless things get so bad I risk being decapitated getting there.
Last night convinced me windy draughty 100 year old houses aren't the ideal place to hunker down.
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Airshow at Ardmore this weekend.
Chance to show the kids the amazing sight of a formation of Spitfire, Kittyhawk and Mustang.
What a sound that will be.
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One flew over our house on Monday. Amazing aircraft.
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