Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders
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Just got home to Hawera after going down to Levin for the game.
Thoughts: Bloody good preseason game, good crowd and Levin Domain looked a picture.
On Players (mainly Canes as they my team)
Adan Murphy at 10 looked pretty ordinary (his kicking out of hand was horrible) and hope it was just an off game from him. Jamie Booth was ok at 9, but not a lot more, rest of starting backline were just ok, looked a little disconnected on defence. Josh Moorby improved as game went on I thought.
Forwards, Coles looked lively while on, was pretty happy with scrum, and I actually though James Blackwell went bloody well (sorry haters).
After the Changes etc I thought Cam Roigard was pretty bloody good and was maybe the spark that set the second half going for the Canes,> Rayasi has got a great left boot ,and used it well from penalty spot a couple of times. I like the game of the young 10 that came on in 2nd spell Godrey? Also the front row went well when Lomax. Aumua and Rakete-Stones came on too.For Crusaders (don't know all players names).
Thought Burke went well at 10 I thought, as well as No11 (springer I think) and Fihaki. Forwards SamW went well, Newell looked good as did I thought Grace and Blackadder at times.
Sorry if I not bang on, just how I saw game, I was actually sitting at top of the stand and really enjoyed whole thing! -
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
Just got home to Hawera after going down to Levin for the game.
Thoughts: Bloody good preseason game, good crowd and Levin Domain looked a picture.
On Players (mainly Canes as they my team)
Adan Murphy at 10 looked pretty ordinary (his kicking out of hand was horrible) and hope it was just an off game from him. Jamie Booth was ok at 9, but not a lot more, rest of starting backline were just ok, looked a little disconnected on defence. Josh Moorby improved as game went on I thought.
Forwards, Coles looked lively while on, was pretty happy with scrum, and I actually though James Blackwell went bloody well (sorry haters).
After the Changes etc I thought Cam Roigard was pretty bloody good and was maybe the spark that set the second half going for the Canes,> Rayasi has got a great left boot ,and used it well from penalty spot a couple of times. I like the game of the young 10 that came on in 2nd spell Godrey? Also the front row went well when Lomax. Aumua and Rakete-Stones came on too.For Crusaders (don't know all players names).
Thought Burke went well at 10 I thought, as well as No11 (springer I think) and Fihaki. Forwards SamW went well, Newell looked good as did I thought Grace and Blackadder at times.
Sorry if I not bang on, just how I saw game, I was actually sitting at top of the stand and really enjoyed whole thing!Blackadder didn’t play
Gardner was at 6 in the first half Christie at 7 and Grace at 82nd half
Lilo- Willie was 8 Kellow at 7 and Havilli at 6 -
@Chris said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
Just got home to Hawera after going down to Levin for the game.
Thoughts: Bloody good preseason game, good crowd and Levin Domain looked a picture.
On Players (mainly Canes as they my team)
Adan Murphy at 10 looked pretty ordinary (his kicking out of hand was horrible) and hope it was just an off game from him. Jamie Booth was ok at 9, but not a lot more, rest of starting backline were just ok, looked a little disconnected on defence. Josh Moorby improved as game went on I thought.
Forwards, Coles looked lively while on, was pretty happy with scrum, and I actually though James Blackwell went bloody well (sorry haters).
After the Changes etc I thought Cam Roigard was pretty bloody good and was maybe the spark that set the second half going for the Canes,> Rayasi has got a great left boot ,and used it well from penalty spot a couple of times. I like the game of the young 10 that came on in 2nd spell Godrey? Also the front row went well when Lomax. Aumua and Rakete-Stones came on too.For Crusaders (don't know all players names).
Thought Burke went well at 10 I thought, as well as No11 (springer I think) and Fihaki. Forwards SamW went well, Newell looked good as did I thought Grace and Blackadder at times.
Sorry if I not bang on, just how I saw game, I was actually sitting at top of the stand and really enjoyed whole thing!Blackadder didn’t play
Gardner was at 6 in the first half Christie at 7 and Grace at 82nd half
Lilo- Willie was 8 Kellow at 7 and Havilli at 6Sorry I meant Grace and Christie (until he got binned). I'm old and tired tonight lol!
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@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
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@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
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@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I have. It got better later in the NPC but his touch finding is often terrible. Unless this consistently improves Canes need to find another first.
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@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
No Lakai. One of your standouts. Also IWL I would like to see at some point, Maybe when its colder as Blackwell is a certain pick in the heat.
btw where does Mifileo want to play. LH or TH. Or is he equally as good at both. And would he be best to start as a LH. It will be a shame if Numia doesn't continue his NPC form and makes an impact at super rugby. As I would prefer Milfilio as the backup TH and Numia and RS as the LHs
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@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
No Lakai. One of your standouts. Also IWL I would like to see at some point, Maybe when its colder as Blackwell is a certain pick in the heat.
btw where does Mifileo want to play. LH or TH. Or is he equally as good at both. And would he be best to start as a LH. It will be a shame if Numia doesn't continue his NPC form and makes an impact at super rugby. As I would prefer Milfilio as the backup TH and Numia and RS as the LHs
If it was me I would start Lakai and move Savea to 7 but that’s the team I think Holland will pick.
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@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
No Lakai. One of your standouts. Also IWL I would like to see at some point, Maybe when its colder as Blackwell is a certain pick in the heat.
btw where does Mifileo want to play. LH or TH. Or is he equally as good at both. And would he be best to start as a LH. It will be a shame if Numia doesn't continue his NPC form and makes an impact at super rugby. As I would prefer Milfilio as the backup TH and Numia and RS as the LHs
If it was me I would start Lakai and move Savea to 7 but that’s the team I think Holland will pick.
OK I wouldn't move Savea to 7 as his position is now 8. Lakai at 7 as a replacement to begin with
The team looks good enough but Morgan needs to step up. Even if he does its still not a championship winning team. Even with lots of luck. Holland develops good solid teams but no more. Thats why he would be a good assistant to a winner like Robertson.
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@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
No Lakai. One of your standouts. Also IWL I would like to see at some point, Maybe when its colder as Blackwell is a certain pick in the heat.
btw where does Mifileo want to play. LH or TH. Or is he equally as good at both. And would he be best to start as a LH. It will be a shame if Numia doesn't continue his NPC form and makes an impact at super rugby. As I would prefer Milfilio as the backup TH and Numia and RS as the LHs
If it was me I would start Lakai and move Savea to 7 but that’s the team I think Holland will pick.
OK I wouldn't move Savea to 7 as his position is now 8. Lakai at 7 as a replacement to begin with
The team looks good enough but Morgan needs to step up. Even if he does its still not a championship winning team. Even with lots of luck. Holland develops good solid teams but no more. Thats why he would be a good assistant to a winner like Robertson.
Im not saying that’s our best team, I just think it’s the one that Holland will pick to start the season. If we have all our best players on the park we will do well in this comp, especially if guys like Higgins and Lakai flourish when they do get an opportunity.
My ideal Canes side if everyone was fit would look like this:
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Mafileo
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Aumua
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Lomax
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Sangster
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Delany
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Flanders
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Savea
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Lakai
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Roigard
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Love
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Rayasi
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Higgins
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Sullivan
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Moorby
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Barrett
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Coles
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Rakete-Stones
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Franks
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Walker-Leawere
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Iose
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Perenara
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Morgan/Cameron
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Savea
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@Canes4life well that isn't going to happen. Jordie will be at 12 for starters.
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@Crucial said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life well that isn't going to happen. Jordie will be at 12 for starters.
Of course, I feel over time Higgins will get that 12 jersey though and like Holland said the other day we’ll see Jordie at 15 a couple times this season.
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@Crucial said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life well that isn't going to happen. Jordie will be at 12 for starters.
and Savea at 8
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Interesting side
I won't give a side but I hope to see players based on good form make the starting 23 or starting
Aumua starting not Coles
Mafileo as the backup TH (Franks looks a bit past it now)
R-S and Numia as the 2 LHs (Im hoping Numia steps up this year
IWL starting at lock (he was brilliant at times for wellington before moving to HB)
Delany at 6
Lakai at 7
Flanders as the backup 8
Roigard making 9 his starting position even when Perenara returns
Love at 1st
etcUnlikley to happen though
These are players that have the qualities like size or speed etc to turn the Canes from making up the number to serious title contenders
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@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Crucial said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life well that isn't going to happen. Jordie will be at 12 for starters.
and Savea at 8
Yep, and if Savea isn't playing, it will very likely be Flanders at 8.
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@Crucial said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger the old adage will still run true in the end though.
Can’t win the competition without a world class 10.Godfrey has the highest ceiling of all 10s currently at the Canes. Still 19 though.
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@Stargazer said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Crucial said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger the old adage will still run true in the end though.
Can’t win the competition without a world class 10.Godfrey has the highest ceiling of all 10s currently at the Canes. Still 19 though.
Seems he was better than Morgan v crusaders. Hope he's in the 23 vs reds and he gets game time