Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders
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@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
Just got back from the game.
A quick summary:
Crusaders very strong in the first half. They dominated the collision and set piece as expected against the Dad’s army forward pack of the Canes. Prinsep got munted a couple times taking the ball into contact and limped off, with Flanders replacing him just before the spell. Standouts for the Crusaders in the first half were Whitelock, Newell and Grace.
The second half Hurricanes were a totally different side. The best player on the park for me today was Cam Roigard, he is a very smart footballer and I wouldn’t be surprised if he is a bolter at the WC. First time I’ve seen Peter Lakai up close aswell, that kid is built different and when he came on he absolutely dominated in the carry. Standouts for the Hurricanes today were Roigard, Lakai, Aumua, Delany and Flanders.
@Stargazer I overheard Devery talking to someone sitting next to me and he said he will be back after the Aus trip, so maybe round three. He had minor clean-up surgery in his knee so good news for him.
Thanks mate how did Macca Springer ? go I think he played both half’s on the left wing.
Is that who it was, I was trying to figure out who that was shining out wide for the Crusaders. Yeah he was v good, got on the outside a couple times and showed some real gas, I think one break eventually led to a Crusaders try in the first half. Fihaki on the other hand was hot and cold, hot on attack, but was caught out often on D.
The other player that impressed me from a Canes POV was Harry Godfrey. Had a dodgy first ten but as he warmed into the game he showed what a weapon he could be. He broke the line a couple times when he decided to have crack. With B Cameron and R Love sidelined hopefully he takes his opportunity.
Thanks Mate, Springer has real gas a bit of a weapon.
I am not surprised Godfrey went well he looked very good the couple times I saw him in the u/20s. -
@Canes4life thanks for this. Good to see Flanders stepping up. Lakai was brilliant in last yrs npc so hope he gets game time this year. Will the other players start next week. Knowing the coaches maybe not
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Just got home to Hawera after going down to Levin for the game.
Thoughts: Bloody good preseason game, good crowd and Levin Domain looked a picture.
On Players (mainly Canes as they my team)
Adan Murphy at 10 looked pretty ordinary (his kicking out of hand was horrible) and hope it was just an off game from him. Jamie Booth was ok at 9, but not a lot more, rest of starting backline were just ok, looked a little disconnected on defence. Josh Moorby improved as game went on I thought.
Forwards, Coles looked lively while on, was pretty happy with scrum, and I actually though James Blackwell went bloody well (sorry haters).
After the Changes etc I thought Cam Roigard was pretty bloody good and was maybe the spark that set the second half going for the Canes,> Rayasi has got a great left boot ,and used it well from penalty spot a couple of times. I like the game of the young 10 that came on in 2nd spell Godrey? Also the front row went well when Lomax. Aumua and Rakete-Stones came on too.For Crusaders (don't know all players names).
Thought Burke went well at 10 I thought, as well as No11 (springer I think) and Fihaki. Forwards SamW went well, Newell looked good as did I thought Grace and Blackadder at times.
Sorry if I not bang on, just how I saw game, I was actually sitting at top of the stand and really enjoyed whole thing! -
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
Just got home to Hawera after going down to Levin for the game.
Thoughts: Bloody good preseason game, good crowd and Levin Domain looked a picture.
On Players (mainly Canes as they my team)
Adan Murphy at 10 looked pretty ordinary (his kicking out of hand was horrible) and hope it was just an off game from him. Jamie Booth was ok at 9, but not a lot more, rest of starting backline were just ok, looked a little disconnected on defence. Josh Moorby improved as game went on I thought.
Forwards, Coles looked lively while on, was pretty happy with scrum, and I actually though James Blackwell went bloody well (sorry haters).
After the Changes etc I thought Cam Roigard was pretty bloody good and was maybe the spark that set the second half going for the Canes,> Rayasi has got a great left boot ,and used it well from penalty spot a couple of times. I like the game of the young 10 that came on in 2nd spell Godrey? Also the front row went well when Lomax. Aumua and Rakete-Stones came on too.For Crusaders (don't know all players names).
Thought Burke went well at 10 I thought, as well as No11 (springer I think) and Fihaki. Forwards SamW went well, Newell looked good as did I thought Grace and Blackadder at times.
Sorry if I not bang on, just how I saw game, I was actually sitting at top of the stand and really enjoyed whole thing!Blackadder didn’t play
Gardner was at 6 in the first half Christie at 7 and Grace at 82nd half
Lilo- Willie was 8 Kellow at 7 and Havilli at 6 -
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@Chris said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
Just got home to Hawera after going down to Levin for the game.
Thoughts: Bloody good preseason game, good crowd and Levin Domain looked a picture.
On Players (mainly Canes as they my team)
Adan Murphy at 10 looked pretty ordinary (his kicking out of hand was horrible) and hope it was just an off game from him. Jamie Booth was ok at 9, but not a lot more, rest of starting backline were just ok, looked a little disconnected on defence. Josh Moorby improved as game went on I thought.
Forwards, Coles looked lively while on, was pretty happy with scrum, and I actually though James Blackwell went bloody well (sorry haters).
After the Changes etc I thought Cam Roigard was pretty bloody good and was maybe the spark that set the second half going for the Canes,> Rayasi has got a great left boot ,and used it well from penalty spot a couple of times. I like the game of the young 10 that came on in 2nd spell Godrey? Also the front row went well when Lomax. Aumua and Rakete-Stones came on too.For Crusaders (don't know all players names).
Thought Burke went well at 10 I thought, as well as No11 (springer I think) and Fihaki. Forwards SamW went well, Newell looked good as did I thought Grace and Blackadder at times.
Sorry if I not bang on, just how I saw game, I was actually sitting at top of the stand and really enjoyed whole thing!Blackadder didn’t play
Gardner was at 6 in the first half Christie at 7 and Grace at 82nd half
Lilo- Willie was 8 Kellow at 7 and Havilli at 6Sorry I meant Grace and Christie (until he got binned). I'm old and tired tonight lol!
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@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
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@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
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@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I have. It got better later in the NPC but his touch finding is often terrible. Unless this consistently improves Canes need to find another first.
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@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
No Lakai. One of your standouts. Also IWL I would like to see at some point, Maybe when its colder as Blackwell is a certain pick in the heat.
btw where does Mifileo want to play. LH or TH. Or is he equally as good at both. And would he be best to start as a LH. It will be a shame if Numia doesn't continue his NPC form and makes an impact at super rugby. As I would prefer Milfilio as the backup TH and Numia and RS as the LHs
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@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
No Lakai. One of your standouts. Also IWL I would like to see at some point, Maybe when its colder as Blackwell is a certain pick in the heat.
btw where does Mifileo want to play. LH or TH. Or is he equally as good at both. And would he be best to start as a LH. It will be a shame if Numia doesn't continue his NPC form and makes an impact at super rugby. As I would prefer Milfilio as the backup TH and Numia and RS as the LHs
If it was me I would start Lakai and move Savea to 7 but that’s the team I think Holland will pick.
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@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
No Lakai. One of your standouts. Also IWL I would like to see at some point, Maybe when its colder as Blackwell is a certain pick in the heat.
btw where does Mifileo want to play. LH or TH. Or is he equally as good at both. And would he be best to start as a LH. It will be a shame if Numia doesn't continue his NPC form and makes an impact at super rugby. As I would prefer Milfilio as the backup TH and Numia and RS as the LHs
If it was me I would start Lakai and move Savea to 7 but that’s the team I think Holland will pick.
OK I wouldn't move Savea to 7 as his position is now 8. Lakai at 7 as a replacement to begin with
The team looks good enough but Morgan needs to step up. Even if he does its still not a championship winning team. Even with lots of luck. Holland develops good solid teams but no more. Thats why he would be a good assistant to a winner like Robertson.
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@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Dan54 thanks. But Aidan Morgan. Shame. Hope he finds form quickly. As he will likely start next week. Maybe Godfrey will make the 23
Yep I just hoping Morgan had off game, as I like the young fella, just he struggled last night I thought, and his kicking to touch was lucky to make 10-15m, not something I had noticed before lat night.
I thought Morgan and Barrett just tried way too hard instead of keeping things simple. Hopefully they can pull it together for the first proper game of the year.
With Love and Cameron unavailable for round 1, there's a good chance Godfrey will be in that first 23.
Based on yesterday's selections I feel like this will be our first 23 of the year that Holland will pick to play the Reds.
- Rakete-Stones
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Blackwell
- Bird
- Flanders
- Kirifi
- Savea
- Roigard
- Morgan
- Rayasi
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Savea
- Moorby
- Coles
- Mafileo
- Franks
- Delany
- Iose
- Booth
- Godfrey
- Higgins
Unavailable for Australia: TJ Perenara, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Justin Sangster, Ruben Love, Bailyn Sullivan, Jacob Devery, Reed Prinsep, Tyler Laubscher, Brett Cameron.
No Lakai. One of your standouts. Also IWL I would like to see at some point, Maybe when its colder as Blackwell is a certain pick in the heat.
btw where does Mifileo want to play. LH or TH. Or is he equally as good at both. And would he be best to start as a LH. It will be a shame if Numia doesn't continue his NPC form and makes an impact at super rugby. As I would prefer Milfilio as the backup TH and Numia and RS as the LHs
If it was me I would start Lakai and move Savea to 7 but that’s the team I think Holland will pick.
OK I wouldn't move Savea to 7 as his position is now 8. Lakai at 7 as a replacement to begin with
The team looks good enough but Morgan needs to step up. Even if he does its still not a championship winning team. Even with lots of luck. Holland develops good solid teams but no more. Thats why he would be a good assistant to a winner like Robertson.
Im not saying that’s our best team, I just think it’s the one that Holland will pick to start the season. If we have all our best players on the park we will do well in this comp, especially if guys like Higgins and Lakai flourish when they do get an opportunity.
My ideal Canes side if everyone was fit would look like this:
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Mafileo
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Aumua
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Lomax
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Sangster
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Delany
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Flanders
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Savea
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Lakai
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Roigard
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Love
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Rayasi
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Higgins
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Sullivan
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Moorby
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Barrett
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Coles
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Rakete-Stones
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Franks
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Walker-Leawere
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Iose
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Perenara
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Morgan/Cameron
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Savea
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@Canes4life well that isn't going to happen. Jordie will be at 12 for starters.
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@Crucial said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life well that isn't going to happen. Jordie will be at 12 for starters.
Of course, I feel over time Higgins will get that 12 jersey though and like Holland said the other day we’ll see Jordie at 15 a couple times this season.
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@Crucial said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life well that isn't going to happen. Jordie will be at 12 for starters.
and Savea at 8
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Interesting side
I won't give a side but I hope to see players based on good form make the starting 23 or starting
Aumua starting not Coles
Mafileo as the backup TH (Franks looks a bit past it now)
R-S and Numia as the 2 LHs (Im hoping Numia steps up this year
IWL starting at lock (he was brilliant at times for wellington before moving to HB)
Delany at 6
Lakai at 7
Flanders as the backup 8
Roigard making 9 his starting position even when Perenara returns
Love at 1st
etcUnlikley to happen though
These are players that have the qualities like size or speed etc to turn the Canes from making up the number to serious title contenders
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@Winger said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Crucial said in Preseason: Hurricanes v Crusaders:
@Canes4life well that isn't going to happen. Jordie will be at 12 for starters.
and Savea at 8
Yep, and if Savea isn't playing, it will very likely be Flanders at 8.
