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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #1178

    Competition Stats

    Competition Stats

    This table is quite good reading (for us). Comprehensive! We're also top in every team stat category listed, except rucks won.

    TAB now has us equal favourites with France to win the RWC.

    South Africa third - ahead of Ireland.

    https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/18525/rugby-union/international/rugby-world-cup/outrights?outrightseventid=248050

    Australia still viewed as much more likely than Argentina.

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    Lots of positives from that one and lots of work ons. Our inability to exit from our half after halftime was a concern. Missing touch from a penalty hurt, quite a few ruck penalties hurt us also for holding on. We also did not get a lot of return for the defensive bomb which seems to be a staple of the gameplan.

    However, the maul defense and overall D was very nice, our set piece was rock solid and a few scrum penalties was nice. The forwards as a unit are improving all the time. Taylor is finding some nice form which is great, and scooter is a man possessed.

    Frizzel and Paps not quite as much impact offensively put played tight and did well on D.

    Thought Barnes was fine, communicated well.

    Australia just need to sort out their discipline, how many cards have they had this rugby championship? Some good stuff but also plenty of bad. Eddie might need to eat lots of those Cadbury chocolates to make him happy as 0-3 is not a great start.

    I see the stat this morning Australia have won just 5 of their last 20 games whereas NZ are on a 10 game winning streak. Bring on next week.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @Derpus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    The maul sack to Papali'i was surely a collapse, no? I hate mauls and think he should be well within his rights to tackle the player in possession. Notwithstanding, my understanding is that he can't take it down even if he came through legally no?

    From what I could see live, I thought Papal’i got to the ball carrier given the supporting maul players for the Wallabies had splintered.

    As a tactic I don’t hate mauls, what I can’t stand is (1) the leeway many mauls get when they are stagnant or just moving sideways and not forwards (2) attacking players joining the maul in front of the ball carrier

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    @MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    From what I saw Cane was missed.

    Interested in @Tim thoughts here, his biggest critic.

    Does @Tim not like Cane? I never got that impression.

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    I thought the RM-BB axis worked really well last night. If they can cut out the stupid kicking then we have an incredibly potent weapon in those 2 combining.

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    @Wurzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    Proud moment for Cam and the Roigaid clan

    Cam looked every bit as good at this level as at super rugby level. I hope he starts next week. Clearly the no2 HB now

    Aaron Smith’s final ever match at Forsyth Barr. I reckon Cam’s on the bench again.

    Cam should start a test before the RWC. He needs game time starting in case of injury. Cam looks the real deal but can he do it starting

    Smith could come on to huge applause with say 20 minutes left

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    @Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @Wurzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    Proud moment for Cam and the Roigaid clan

    Cam looked every bit as good at this level as at super rugby level. I hope he starts next week. Clearly the no2 HB now

    Aaron Smith’s final ever match at Forsyth Barr. I reckon Cam’s on the bench again.

    Cam should start a test before the RWC. He needs game time starting in case of injury. Cam looks the real deal but can he do it starting

    Smith could come on to huge applause with say 20 minutes left

    Plenty of players have come on as a replacement and looked a million bucks then be found wanting later. Brendan Leonard is the classic example. But Cam does look like he has a the goods. Hopefully he does because we're pretty fůcked otherwise.

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  • WingerW Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #1186

    Eddie getting some stick.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/critics-bail-in-on-eddie-jones-after-latest-wallabies-flop/ar-AA1ewL7y?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=27267e4ade4e4ce887500d538ba57737&ei=15

    Amidst the disappointment, former players and pundits have not held back in their criticism of Jones. Andy Goode, the former England flyhalf stated that the former England boss has taken the Wallabies backwards at an alarming rate, and questioned the decision to sack previous coach Dave Rennie.

    “Eddie Jones has taken the Wallabies backwards quicker than I used to run to the buffet! Whoever sacked Dave Rennie at Australian Rugby needs sacking for being inept at their job!” The outspoken RugbyPass columnist said that Rennie had been ‘replaced by a clown’.

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    @ACT-Crusader Yeah Papali'i got to the ball carrier but then brought him down. As long as it's still a maul he can't tackle him. I'm 80% sure that's the rule and we saw that exact thing penalised in SR this year.

    It's fucking dumb though.

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    @Derpus I thought the maul had broken up, but haven't revisited so you maybe right. From memory a the ball carrier and one other had broken off?

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    I'd start Whitelock with Beast. Sub Retallick for Whitelock at 50 minutes.
    ALB, Roigard and DMac in the 23.
    Hoping Newell is good to go with Tamaiti.

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    Cam is the 3rd option. Let him develop as such. Unless he can be outstanding and give us something we don’t have now I’d stick with Smith/Christie.

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    @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    Cam is the 3rd option. Let him develop as such. Unless he can be outstanding and give us something we don’t have now I’d stick with Smith/Christie.

    Roigard offered something different to Christie last night. His speed and accuracy of pass was a huge reason the ABs didnt have their typical late game fade.

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    @BerniesCorner said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    I'd start Whitelock with Beast. Sub Retallick for Whitelock at 50 minutes.
    ALB, Roigard and DMac in the 23.
    Hoping Newell is good to go with Tamaiti.

    Pretty clear to me that Scooter should be the mainstay now, BBBR and Big Sam can rotate from the bench to the starters spot. It may keep both of them fresher for longer

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @Wurzel said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @Winger said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    Proud moment for Cam and the Roigaid clan

    Cam looked every bit as good at this level as at super rugby level. I hope he starts next week. Clearly the no2 HB now

    Aaron Smith’s final ever match at Forsyth Barr. I reckon Cam’s on the bench again.

    Cam should start a test before the RWC. He needs game time starting in case of injury. Cam looks the real deal but can he do it starting

    Smith could come on to huge applause with say 20 minutes left

    If Cam goes to the RWC he will get a start in one of the pool games.

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  • TheMojomanT Offline
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    @KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    @TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    Cam is the 3rd option. Let him develop as such. Unless he can be outstanding and give us something we don’t have now I’d stick with Smith/Christie.

    Roigard offered something different to Christie last night. His speed and accuracy of pass was a huge reason the ABs didnt have their typical late game fade.

    20mins against a fading Wallaby side down to 14 for most of that time probably isn’t a great benchmark. I think we should get away from the whole “shiny new object” whenever someone has a good cameo.

    They’ve invested time into Christie. He’s performed well and now has the experience. I’d feel more comfortable with Christie coming on in a big game behind Smith rather than a raw Roigard.

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    #1196

    Watching the game back, I was amazed how much Eddie had the Aussies out the ball in the air. Playing the tactics of a bad 6 Nations team.

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    @BerniesCorner said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

    I'd start Whitelock with Beast. Sub Retallick for Whitelock at 50 minutes.
    ALB, Roigard and DMac in the 23.
    Hoping Newell is good to go with Tamaiti.

    You can see the thinking behind the midfield and winger impact players whilst playing both RM and BB in your starting XV. We’ve seen it before when we used to have BB at 10 and DMac at 15 too.

    For me DMac will be the starting 10 in the lesser games in the RWC and come into the first string 23 if there is injury.

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