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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #1717

    Just thinking about 6 and Vaai

    Would Vaai be the 5th ranked Chiefs 6 behind Finau, Ah Koui, PGS and Jacobson?

    He's never exactly stood out in his limited time at 6.

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    #1718

    @NTA said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Also I don't think you can really have Mo'unga and Beaugan out there at the same time. Just doesn't feel like they complement each other.

    People were saying that in 2019.

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    “Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn’t it?” Foster said

    Except pretty much everyone on here was saying it was dumb to go into a RWC campaign with a lock and 6 down. Fair enough if BBBR and Frizzell were fit, to have that number of locks and loosies. But they aren't, so it was just common sense to adjust the squad. But Foster has zero flexibility of thought

    'Don’t be surprised' if Emoni Narawa's replacement 'is a loose forward'

    'Don’t be surprised' if Emoni Narawa's replacement 'is a loose forward'

    The changes stretched what was already an exhausted squad depth in the back row, having two of the five loose forwards injured.

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  • Joans Town JonesJ Offline
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    #1720

    @Duluth the state of NZ media and NZ rugby. First two questions nothing about a record loss.

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    @booboo said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Snowy said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    So out of 84 votes, only 15 of us saw that coming. I can only assume that a lot of people haven’t noticed the list of Foster’s AB “achievements” or just have truly “blind” faith that what had taken over 100 years to build has fallen.

    I'll admit to blind faith and an inability to actually pick against the ABs.

    I’m the same , never have , never will, even if common sense says otherwise

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    So where to now? Maybe this was the rope-a-dope. Do they spend the next three tests practicing their exit kicks, handling, ruck and kick retention?

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    #1723

    Haven't caught up with all of the thread, but reflecting on the game overall, both teams were very error prone in the 1st half but in the 2nd half only we were error prone. The French tightened their game right up to suit the conditions - effectively wet weather footy in that heat. We were going to win if the game stayed fairly open with the likes of Telea really finding form, so they were smart to change tactics and we didn't adjust our gameplan, so our mistakes became more and more costly as they pinned us in our own half.

    Given our injuries, we definitely do have the cattle to win the thing on ability alone based on that first half. I just question whether we have the smarts to adjust our game if things don't go to plan. It seems not at this stage.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    So where to now? Maybe this was the rope-a-dope. Do they spend the next three tests practicing their exit kicks, handling, ruck and kick retention?

    I don't think rope a dope is the All Black way. This is Foster's blueprint, and they are going to follow it to it's conclusion, wherever that leads us

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Just thinking about 6 and Vaai

    Would Vaai be the 5th ranked Chiefs 6 behind Finau, Ah Koui, PGS and Jacobson?

    He's never exactly stood out in his limited time at 6.

    Ah Koui-I don't mind him, the few times I saw him played he looked pretty tireless and committed.

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    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    “Hindsight Good coaching is a wonderful thing, isn’t it?” Foster said

    The lack of forward replacements, carrying injured players, not having decent 6s, 10s with the kicking power of Detective Ironside, not changing the gameplan, that is all on Foster.
    Not like it is the first time either.

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    #1727

    Tactically that 2nd half was terrible by us, and exactly what I expected because it's what we've been doing for a couple of years now. First half we still kicked all our ball away, but I was pleasantly surprised by a few long kicks.
    Well done France, comfortably put us away despite their injuries. Thought Aldritt was particularly good, but they made plenty of defensive errors and look quite beatable.

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    Think that our kick chase game is the weakest link in our game plan at the moment, very rarely seems to pay off and normally just backfires with points against us.

    Hoping that the plan all along has been to target the QF as our breakthrough game and that it will be all ok. Also hope we don’t go for too much rotation in the remaining pool games as we need to get our combinations more game time.

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    #1729

    At least the ABs had the decency to suck in the previous game too, so we didn’t go into this with false expectations

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  • broughieB Offline
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    replied to Joans Town Jones on last edited by
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    @Joans-Town-Jones Well their kicking has be woeful for years. Why practice the obvious?

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    #1731

    I hate Foster

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    #1732

    @nostrildamus said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Ah Koui-I don't mind him, the few times I saw him played he looked pretty tireless and committed.

    I guess at Super he is a more a short lock who can play 6 but as a international backup bench 6/bench-emergency lock Ah Koui might have been worth a look. Perhaps he is too much of a loose cannon, but, early days.

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    #1733

    @akan004 I loathe Mark Robinson just as much

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  • Joans Town JonesJ Offline
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    replied to broughie on last edited by
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    @broughie said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Joans-Town-Jones Well their kicking has be woeful for years. Why practice the obvious?

    So then fire David Hill and bring in Nick Evans?

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  • broughieB Offline
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    replied to Joans Town Jones on last edited by broughie
    #1735

    @Joans-Town-Jones That would require the acknowledgement of a problem.

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  • TimT Away
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    #1736

    This game really underlined how bad Ryan is. He keeps selecting awful players like Cody Taylor at the expense of genuinely good forwards. Vaa'i would make no other squad.

    NZ rugby is rotten.

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