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    @pjay said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Why don’t we do the winning French thing and have a major off field political blow up by sacking our head coach mid tournament … and hunt down Razor to get on a plane toute suite.
    What have we got to lose…

    Coming from a country who voted Aunty Jacinda in twice...

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    #1709

    Vaai had zero impact as expected. The guy doesn't even look good at SR level.

    The question is why did our new genius forwards coach not see what was so obvious to most on here? Vaii shouldnt have been anywhere near the 33.

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    @number9 Dalton is our biggest 7 and only Frizzell little bit taller but not as heavy not sure we're your coming from

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    @Nepia I didn't realise either that there was a NZ feed with Nisbo etc on Stan. Be sure to look out for that in the next AB game.

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    Paps was fine, lots of metres gained, some very good D, maybe a touch slow to the breakdown but was miles better than Vaa'i, he was shit.

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    @NTA said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Not much between the teams IMHO in terms of skill, physicality, and fitness.

    The two real differences were use of brain and use of hands. ABs lost a lot of ball in contact.

    Especially when we looked to be putting the pressure on their defence.

    Just watched a bit of a replay (yes I am a sucker for punishment), and our formation with the ball was looking good until the ball for dislodged or wasn’t secured properly at the breakdown and squirted out the side or a pass is made that had a guys reaching behind (Smith was not as crisp today in that regard) and we lost momentum.

    We had chances and we didn’t apply the scoreboard pressure needed.

    When they had us down in their 22 we actually defended pretty well. A couple of errors and guys not holding shape, but overall pretty good. The concern was the relentless pressure of it and we couldn’t hold in the conditions.

    We know what we have to do to get to the QF and that’s what I’m actually excited about to see if we any mental toughness to lift.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Stag said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    What a list Fozzy has

    First home loss to Ireland
    First series loss to Ireland
    First loss to Argentina
    First home loss to Argentina
    Largest ever defeat
    First ever pool loss at a World Cup

    Just to name a few…

    From the dedicated thread

    First to lose to Ireland in NZ.
    First to lose a series to Ireland.
    First 3 test series loss in professional era.
    Worst halftime deficit ever.
    First to lose to Argentina, and at home
    Highest score against us
    Biggest losing margin x2
    Lowest world ranking
    Worst win rate in Pro era
    First ever consecutive 14 point+ losses
    First loss in RWC pool play
    Worst ever RWC loss
    Biggest margin of defeats and highest scores conceded against Argentina, Ireland, Australia, South Africa, and France
    Only ever time lost 3 consecutive home tests

    I hear he’s the also the first AB coach to eat Vita Brit’s and not Weetbix.

    The sun will come up tomorrow….

    Nah he eats chocolate cake for brekkie

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    OK, so, we're down by 20 early in the game vs Italy. Does the team say "phuck it" and go out and play their own game or stay with Fozz-ball?

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    Just thinking about 6 and Vaai

    Would Vaai be the 5th ranked Chiefs 6 behind Finau, Ah Koui, PGS and Jacobson?

    He's never exactly stood out in his limited time at 6.

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    @NTA said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Also I don't think you can really have Mo'unga and Beaugan out there at the same time. Just doesn't feel like they complement each other.

    People were saying that in 2019.

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    “Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn’t it?” Foster said

    Except pretty much everyone on here was saying it was dumb to go into a RWC campaign with a lock and 6 down. Fair enough if BBBR and Frizzell were fit, to have that number of locks and loosies. But they aren't, so it was just common sense to adjust the squad. But Foster has zero flexibility of thought

    'Don’t be surprised' if Emoni Narawa's replacement 'is a loose forward'

    'Don’t be surprised' if Emoni Narawa's replacement 'is a loose forward'

    The changes stretched what was already an exhausted squad depth in the back row, having two of the five loose forwards injured.

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    @Duluth the state of NZ media and NZ rugby. First two questions nothing about a record loss.

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    @booboo said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Snowy said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    So out of 84 votes, only 15 of us saw that coming. I can only assume that a lot of people haven’t noticed the list of Foster’s AB “achievements” or just have truly “blind” faith that what had taken over 100 years to build has fallen.

    I'll admit to blind faith and an inability to actually pick against the ABs.

    I’m the same , never have , never will, even if common sense says otherwise

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    #1722

    So where to now? Maybe this was the rope-a-dope. Do they spend the next three tests practicing their exit kicks, handling, ruck and kick retention?

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    #1723

    Haven't caught up with all of the thread, but reflecting on the game overall, both teams were very error prone in the 1st half but in the 2nd half only we were error prone. The French tightened their game right up to suit the conditions - effectively wet weather footy in that heat. We were going to win if the game stayed fairly open with the likes of Telea really finding form, so they were smart to change tactics and we didn't adjust our gameplan, so our mistakes became more and more costly as they pinned us in our own half.

    Given our injuries, we definitely do have the cattle to win the thing on ability alone based on that first half. I just question whether we have the smarts to adjust our game if things don't go to plan. It seems not at this stage.

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    @Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    So where to now? Maybe this was the rope-a-dope. Do they spend the next three tests practicing their exit kicks, handling, ruck and kick retention?

    I don't think rope a dope is the All Black way. This is Foster's blueprint, and they are going to follow it to it's conclusion, wherever that leads us

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Just thinking about 6 and Vaai

    Would Vaai be the 5th ranked Chiefs 6 behind Finau, Ah Koui, PGS and Jacobson?

    He's never exactly stood out in his limited time at 6.

    Ah Koui-I don't mind him, the few times I saw him played he looked pretty tireless and committed.

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
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    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    “Hindsight Good coaching is a wonderful thing, isn’t it?” Foster said

    The lack of forward replacements, carrying injured players, not having decent 6s, 10s with the kicking power of Detective Ironside, not changing the gameplan, that is all on Foster.
    Not like it is the first time either.

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    Tactically that 2nd half was terrible by us, and exactly what I expected because it's what we've been doing for a couple of years now. First half we still kicked all our ball away, but I was pleasantly surprised by a few long kicks.
    Well done France, comfortably put us away despite their injuries. Thought Aldritt was particularly good, but they made plenty of defensive errors and look quite beatable.

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