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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    Billy Tell
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    #157

    I'd be happy to try Crotty and moala again. <br><br>
    I don't want a bar of Crotty Fekitoa so if Fekitoa starts someone else at 12.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Billy Tell" data-cid="601943" data-time="1469993868"><p>I disagree about patrick T. Every time he pulls on black he adds great impact off the bench. A stonewall selection.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Brodie Retallick and Sam Whitelock with Patrick T off the bench are about the easiest selections in the squad. If a 4th lock is needed (I don't think it is), I'd go from Dominic Bird ahead of Luke Romano.

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    Yeah I'd either go with luatua covering 4th lock. Or else maybe give bird another (final) shot. Barrett looked very promising but really faded in the last few weeks.

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    #160

    Midfield:I'd go with Crotty/ Moala with Fekitoa off the bench for now, then SBW/Ngatai with Moala off the bench once they're available.

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  • WurzelW Offline
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    Wurzel
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    #161

    <p>I can't see them throwing Ngatai straight into the squad once his concussion issues have cleared. I'd imagine he's going to have to go back to NPC and play his way to back into the form that had him selected in June.</p>

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
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    <p>Are people discussing who they would select, or who they think the panel will select? This selection panel doesn't change its mind about players often.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I suspect Moala will be the only player who has moved past a fit player selected in the June squad.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Despite Fekitoa's poor form I think they will stick with him because they have invested so much time in him already. Tamanivalu is my pick to miss out in the midfield. (SBW to return for Ngatai but he was always ahead of him in the selectors rankings)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>There's lots of talk about Luatua, but I'll be surprised if he makes it. Particularly at the expense of Dixon.. more likely Squire is under threat. They can claim he hasn't been getting enough time in a starting role.</p>

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    KiwiMurph
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    #163

    Following on from Tim, According to the Herald there aren't going to be too many changes.

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    JK
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    <p>Squad named:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><strong>Forwards:</strong></p>
    <p>Hookers<br>
    Dane Coles (Wellington / Hurricanes, 39)<br>
    Codie Taylor (Canterbury / Crusaders, 5)<br>
    Nathan Harris (Bay of Plenty / Chiefs, 4)</p>
    <p>Props<br>
    Wyatt Crockett (Canterbury / Crusaders, 48)<br>
    Charlie Faumuina (Auckland / Blues, 36)<br>
    Owen Franks (Canterbury / Crusaders, 80)<br>
    Joe Moody (Canterbury / Crusaders, 14)<br>
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Auckland / Blues, 1)</p>
    <p>Locks<br>
    Brodie Retallick (Hawke's Bay / Chiefs, 50)<br>
    Luke Romano (Canterbury / Crusaders, 24)<br>
    Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland / Blues, 9)<br>
    Samuel Whitelock (Canterbury / Crusaders, 75)</p>
    <p>Loose Forwards<br>
    Sam Cane (Bay of Plenty / Chiefs, 34)<br>
    Elliot Dixon (Southland / Highlanders, 1)<br>
    Jerome Kaino (Auckland / Blues, 69)<br>
    Kieran Read, captain (Canterbury / Crusaders, 87)<br>
    Ardie Savea (Wellington / Hurricanes, 2)<br>
    Liam Squire ( Ta$man / Highlanders, 1)</p>
    <p><strong>Backs:</strong></p>
    <p>Halfbacks<br>
    Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Waikato / Chiefs, 21)<br>
    TJ Perenara (Wellington / Hurricanes, 19)<br>
    Aaron Smith (Manawatu / Highlanders, 50)</p>
    <p>First five-eighths<br>
    Beauden Barrett (Taranaki / Hurricanes, 39)<br>
    Aaron Cruden (Manawatu / Chiefs, 39)<br>
    Lima Sopoaga (Southland / Highlanders, 2)</p>
    <p>Midfielders<br>
    Ryan Crotty (Canterbury / Crusaders, 18)<br>
    Malakai Fekitoa (Auckland / Highlanders, 15)<br>
    George Moala (Auckland / Blues, 2)<br>
    Sonny Bill Williams (Counties Manukau / Chiefs, 33)</p>
    <p>Outside backs<br>
    Israel Dagg (Hawke's Bay / Crusaders, 51)<br>
    Waisake Naholo (Taranaki / Highlanders, 6)<br>
    Julian Savea (Wellington/ Hurricanes, 43)<br>
    Ben Smith (Otago / Highlanders, 51)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Five additional players will also attend the camp: Damian McKenzie, Seta Tamanivalu and their fellow Chiefs back Anton Lienert-Brown as well as Blues loose forward Steven Luatua, Blues outside back Melani Nanai and Crusaders loose forward Matt Todd.</p>

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    Hooroo
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    <div> </div>
    <div><strong>Forwards:</strong><br><br><strong>Hookers</strong><br>
    Dane Coles (Wellington / Hurricanes, 39)<br>
    Codie Taylor (Canterbury / Crusaders, 5)<br>
    Nathan Harris (Bay of Plenty / Chiefs, 4)<br><br><strong>Props</strong><br>
    Wyatt Crockett (Canterbury / Crusaders, 48)<br>
    Charlie Faumuina (Auckland / Blues, 36)<br>
    Owen Franks (Canterbury / Crusaders, 80)<br>
    Joe Moody (Canterbury / Crusaders, 14)<br>
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Auckland / Blues, 1)<br><br><strong>Locks</strong><br>
    Brodie Retallick (Hawke's Bay / Chiefs, 50)<br>
    Luke Romano (Canterbury / Crusaders, 24)<br>
    Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland / Blues, 9)<br>
    Samuel Whitelock (Canterbury / Crusaders, 75)<br><br><strong>Loose Forwards</strong><br>
    Sam Cane (Bay of Plenty / Chiefs, 34)<br>
    Elliot Dixon (Southland / Highlanders, 1)<br>
    Jerome Kaino (Auckland / Blues, 69)<br>
    Kieran Read, captain (Canterbury / Crusaders, 87)<br>
    Ardie Savea (Wellington / Hurricanes, 2)<br>
    Liam Squire ( Ta$man / Highlanders, 1)<br><br><strong>Backs:</strong><br><br><strong>Halfbacks</strong><br>
    Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Waikato / Chiefs, 21)<br>
    TJ Perenara (Wellington / Hurricanes, 19)<br>
    Aaron Smith (Manawatu / Highlanders, 50)<br><br><strong>First five-eighths</strong><br>
    Beauden Barrett (Taranaki / Hurricanes, 39)<br>
    Aaron Cruden (Manawatu / Chiefs, 39)<br>
    Lima Sopoaga (Southland / Highlanders, 2)<br><br><strong>Midfielders</strong><br>
    Ryan Crotty (Canterbury / Crusaders, 18)<br>
    Malakai Fekitoa (Auckland / Highlanders, 15)<br>
    George Moala (Auckland / Blues, 2)<br>
    Sonny Bill Williams (Counties Manukau / Chiefs, 33)<br><br><strong>Outside backs</strong><br>
    Israel Dagg (Hawke's Bay / Crusaders, 51)<br>
    Waisake Naholo (Taranaki / Highlanders, 6)<br>
    Julian Savea (Wellington/ Hurricanes, 43)<br>
    Ben Smith (Otago / Highlanders, 51)</div>

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    Hooroo
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    #166

    <p>I don't know why but I'm a little surprised Julian Savea made it.</p>

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
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    #167

    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11685001'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11685001</a></p>
    <p></p><p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Calibri, Candara, Segoe, 'Segoe UI', Optima, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Five additional players will also attend the camp: Damian McKenzie, Seta Tamanivalu and their fellow Chiefs back Anton Lienert-Brown as well as Blues loose forward Steven Luatua, Blues outside back Melani Nanai and Crusaders loose forward Matt Todd.</span></blockquote>

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  • WurzelW Offline
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    Wurzel
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    #168

    <p>I'd have taken Luatua for Squire, but aside from that I can't complain about those selections. Of course, it would be nice to have another option instead of <em>having</em> to pick Ofa T.</p>

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    Nepia
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    #169

    <p>So only Taminivalu has got the axe? Dom Bird must have gone close (can't believe I'm saying that as he was so overrated and shit for so long).</p>

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    Frye
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    #170

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JK" data-cid="601959" data-time="1470003485">
    <div>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Additional players will also attend the camp: <strong>Damian McKenzie</strong>, <strong>Seta Tamanivalu</strong> and their fellow Chiefs back <strong>Anton Lienert-Brown</strong> as well as Blues loose forward <strong>Steven Luatua</strong>, Blues outside back <strong>Melani Nanai</strong> and Crusaders loose forward <strong>Matt Todd</strong>.</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>That's about the only interesting thing about the squad naming.</p>

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Stargazer
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    #171

    <p>Not surprised by the squad. Good to see that Nanai and Todd have been included in the AB's camp this week. Wondering whether they shouldn't/won't also include Reg Goodes after the final.</p>

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    Frye
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    #172

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="601964" data-time="1470003631">
    <div>
    <p>So only Taminivalu has got the axe? Dom Bird must have gone close (can't believe I'm saying that as he was so overrated and shit for so long).</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>McKenzie as well but both him and Seta will be training anyway.</p>

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
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    #173

    <p>Good to see Nanai is next in line</p>

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  • WurzelW Offline
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    Wurzel
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    #174

    <p>Also being invited to train with the squad are schoolboys Caleb Clarke (MAGS) and Hoskins Sotutu (Sacred Heart) as a way of encouraging them not to sign with the NRL. And yes, those surnames do seem familiar.</p>

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    Rembrandt
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    #175

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="601960" data-time="1470003501">
    <div>
    <p> </p>
    <div><strong>First five-eighths</strong><br>
    Beauden Barrett (Taranaki / Hurricanes, <strong>39</strong>)<br>
    Aaron Cruden (Manawatu / Chiefs, 39)<br>
     </div>
    <p> </p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Surely not!</p>

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    hydro11
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    #176

    <p>I'm glad to see Nanai is in the frame.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I think we all would have picked Luatua but it isn't much of a surprise that Hansen didn't. Luatua has been good all year but obviously hasn't been providing what the selectors want.</p>

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