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    I don't get any of the hate for the Boks and their 7-1 split, anyone is allowed to do it. Really looking forward to that game, having no horse in this race, so will be pretty neat to watch with as little anxiety as ABs vs Namibia or the likes.

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    @pakman said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:

    7-1 bench

    I will split my sides laughing if the Bokkie Centres collide in the second minute and both have to go off.

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    Lots of silly handling errors by Ireland in those first two games against weak opposition. The pressure from that bok pack will force even more mistakes and give away penalties. Hate saying it but I just don't think Ireland have enough variety in play to outsmart the bok defense. Boks by 9+ 😢

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    @Tordah said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:

    I don't get any of the hate for the Boks and their 7-1 split, anyone is allowed to do it. Really looking forward to that game, having no horse in this race, so will be pretty neat to watch with as little anxiety as ABs vs Namibia or the likes.

    Good on them I reckon.
    I dislike the sub rules as they are and dislike the consequence of players getting so massive and fitness being less important - but if that is going to be the rule then it is great that someone takes advantage of it. It's a gamble, but I reckon it's a good one, and helps them develop huge depth up front.
    The Africans doing it and winning the whole thing is probably the most likely thing to get the NH to change the rules after all.
    Plus at some point we will get to see it come unstuck and watch some fatties try to play in midfield which will be funny.

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    Both teams have a lot to play for I think. You can face either an All Black team that you have consistently beaten and has lost its identity or a very strong French side with their home crowd behind them and history beckoning. The path of least resistance to the final lies in the result of this game.
    It is going to be a "home game" for the Irish with all the supporters there in France. They should tip SA. There will be a hell of a lot of whinging to the ref by the Irish so will be screaming for SA though. Complete fluffybunnies of an Irish team.

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    Forecast for 15 degrees and dry in Paris, and the Irish will be pleased with that.

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    If Kwagga does need to play in the backs where would he play? 12? Wing?

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:

    Both teams have a lot to play for I think. You can face either an All Black team that you have consistently beaten and has lost its identity or a very strong French side with their home crowd behind them and history beckoning. The path of least resistance to the final lies in the result of this game.
    It is going to be a "home game" for the Irish with all the supporters there in France. They should tip SA. There will be a hell of a lot of whinging to the ref by the Irish so will be screaming for SA though. Complete fluffybunnies of an Irish team.

    Actually, Nienaber vs Fozzie stands at 3-3, so I'm somewhat hoping we will play SA in the QF.

    Fozzie vs Farrell is 1-3 and Fozzie had covid for his 1.

    Interesting quiz question - a giveaway since I'm asking it...

    Which coach has the higher proportion of test wins Fozzie or Nienaber?

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    Fozz

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    @Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:

    I wouldn’t say no to a red card to sexton for a bit of lip. Or diving in the penalty area.

    A red card and some stitches, if I was being petty and vindictive..but I'm not, so let the best, less lippy team win. Well done SA!

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    Boks bench to make the difference.

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    Good prep for the most important match vs Scotland.

    Should be interesting. Ireland will likely continue with their traditional 5-3 split on the bench - Conan the only one not available for selection.

    Possible:
    Keenan, Lowe, Ringrose, Aki, Hansen, Sexton, Murray/GP
    Porter, Sheehan/Kelleher, Furlong, Ryan, Beirne, O'Mahony, van der Flier, Doris
    R: Kelleher/Sheehan, Kilcoyne, Bealham, Henderson, McCarthy/Baird, Murray/GP, Byrne/Crowley, Henshaw

    Announcement tomorrow Thursday

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    Great interview.

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    @pakman said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:

    I really hate this selection.

    Fuck Jasper Wiese

    I honestly think Faf is the worst scrumhalf of the four in the squad.

    Kolbe vs Mapimpi. Kolbe does all the pretty shit - Mapimpi scores tries. I prefer tries

    The fucken bench. OK let's say the 7-1 is the right call, why not go with the scrumhalf that is actually half decent at playing wing (Williams).

    But.... the 7 1 is stupid. Even France replaces Dupont at 70 min into the game. We can't sub Faf because we need to keep a very bad winger on the bench (just in case). So we have the power to turn things up in the last quarter, but we can't turn things up at 9. But even if we do, we have a crappy nine coming on anyway.

    And the fucken hooker situation. Fourie is not a hooker. Even if his lineout game is good enough - we are giving up so much in the scrum.

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    Wiese is an odd one. I’ve seen a lot of him playing for Leicester in the Gallagher Premiership and European Cup, and tbh he is one dimensional in the extreme. As an Irish fan I would be a lot more worried if Vermuelen was playing.

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    The 7:1 split will backfire at some stage if there are early injuries or cards to midfield backs, for example, forcing a major reshuffle. 6:2 allows a halfback and utility back to cover all contingencies.

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    @pakman said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:

    Makes Foster look like a clown, O'Gara is Wayne Smith like in his knowledge and honesty. I just love a bloke who tells it like it is and knows what is going on.

    Of interest he alluded to without directly saying it that some teams may actually be trying to get hit high to invoke Yellow and Red cards. And that rush defence can be harder for the defender to adjust their height and therefore maybe more prone to high shots.

    Makes me think a smart coach will look at NZ and who gives away the most penalties and types of penalties and then try to milk that.

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    @SidBarret said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:

    @pakman said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:

    I really hate this selection.

    Fuck Jasper Wiese

    I honestly think Faf is the worst scrumhalf of the four in the squad.

    Kolbe vs Mapimpi. Kolbe does all the pretty shit - Mapimpi scores tries. I prefer tries

    The fucken bench. OK let's say the 7-1 is the right call, why not go with the scrumhalf that is actually half decent at playing wing (Williams).

    But.... the 7 1 is stupid. Even France replaces Dupont at 70 min into the game. We can't sub Faf because we need to keep a very bad winger on the bench (just in case). So we have the power to turn things up in the last quarter, but we can't turn things up at 9. But even if we do, we have a crappy nine coming on anyway.

    And the fucken hooker situation. Fourie is not a hooker. Even if his lineout game is good enough - we are giving up so much in the scrum.

    In reverse order:

    The hooker situation fills me with dread. And makes me wonder if the staff have fallen in love with their own cleverness.

    But then again, if Fourie/MVS have been holding their own in our intersquad scrum sessions, I’m inclined to think they’ll go alright there this weekend. And if they haven’t been, then we’ve got much bigger issues with our Staff.

    My guess is when we lost Marx the thinking went something like: how are we going to replace his presence at the breakdown? MVS plus Fourie just about does it. But also more or less forced them into 7-1.

    If anything, that just underlines how weird this “solution” to Marx’s injury is. Like Rassniennies read the PEP stores discount moneyball comic and got all excited. Still, I keep telling myself those okes have mainly ridden the line between genius and lunacy pretty well.

    If we aren’t able to sub Faf it’ll be because either: we need him to keep kicking for goal or we’ve had to bring Reinach on for another back.

    In either case, I’d much rather have Reinach’s old head on the park than Williams whose done nothing as a test nine or wing to suggest he should be on the field in a game of this magnitude. To the contrary, in every fundamental aspect of halfback play he’s been gash.

    I got the impression it was not Kolbe v Mapimpi. But rather Mapimpi v KLH. Tough call on Mapimpi but both KLH and Kolbe create more opportunities- for themselves and others. They also seem better at taking half chances. Off the top of my head Kolbe has the Lions series match winner, the break in the AB RWC 19 opener (which only Mounga’s heroics denied), a hand in PSTD’s tying try in AB 18 and the Farrell humiliation in 19 final. Sure I’m forgetting something but all I’ve got for Mapimpi is his chip for Am for his try in 19 final.

    You keep stating Faf is our worst scrummie and I keep wondering why.

    Fuck Jasper Wiese.

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