RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@Dan54 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Fair enough mate, the one thing ST brings is ability to get over the gainline and dominant tackles.
Ireland have a well oiled system that is functioning very well.
If you look at the Scotland game they had a tone of ball and made a lot of metres which didn’t result in points. This is mainly to Scotland not being able to stress the Irish system enough to really hurt it. They were very good at being able to repel it.
My point is we need to be able to get over the gainline in order to be able to put pressure on Ireland defence and Sami T is the best hooker at doing that and he will certainly be more effective at that than Dane Coles.
Yep the thing with ST, I don't really recall him getting over the gainline very much this year, he certainly (even for Chiefs) probably hasn't crossed gainline as many times as he has missed lineout targets this year? Not sure if it's second year syndrome or whatever, or teams are more aware of him, just hasn't carried like last year etc.
Yeah I don't think ST has been as effective this year, Super Rugby included. Hopefully in time he will recapture last year's form, but I do wonder if last year was a blip where he seemed to come out of nowhere. I don't recall many people, even Chief's supporters, talking him up prior to selection. Very happy to be proven wrong of course.
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Re ST....is there anyone that has lifted their game under fozzie?....is there anyone that plays better for the AB's than in super anymore? feel like at most there are a few that play as well but several that seem to go down hill in the black jersey
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@Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Re ST....is there anyone that has lifted their game under fozzie?....is there anyone that plays better for the AB's than in super anymore? feel like at most there are a few that play as well but several that seem to go down hill in the black jersey
I pondered this a while back. Everyone seems to go backwards.
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The thing about Samisoni is that he is genuinely powerful ball in hand. He won't run wide and look pretty like Ardie or whoever, but he can go forwards against a set defence. Who else do we have like that?
Our lack of guys with that exact trait is the whole reason Frizzell has gone from a questionable squad selection to someone who is being spoken about as a reason for us losing games when he's not available. -
@Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Re ST....is there anyone that has lifted their game under fozzie?....is there anyone that plays better for the AB's than in super anymore? feel like at most there are a few that play as well but several that seem to go down hill in the black jersey
I pondered this a while back. Everyone seems to go backwards.
Frizell?
But i remember that being a thing, players would be mediocre during super rugby, but light it up when they put the jersey on, Rokocoko & Nonu come to mind. Those were the days
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@JayCee said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Re ST....is there anyone that has lifted their game under fozzie?....is there anyone that plays better for the AB's than in super anymore? feel like at most there are a few that play as well but several that seem to go down hill in the black jersey
I pondered this a while back. Everyone seems to go backwards.
Frizell?
But i remember that being a thing, players would be mediocre during super rugby, but light it up when they put the jersey on Rokocoko & Nonu come to mind
jesus..2.5good games in 5 years/30 tests....
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@Crazy-Horse Codie's form dropped off a big cliff, was persevered with and he found his way back to form, repaid the faith I guess...
The one that stands out would be Scott Barrett, otherwise everyone else is patchy at best.
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@Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@JayCee said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Re ST....is there anyone that has lifted their game under fozzie?....is there anyone that plays better for the AB's than in super anymore? feel like at most there are a few that play as well but several that seem to go down hill in the black jersey
I pondered this a while back. Everyone seems to go backwards.
Frizell?
But i remember that being a thing, players would be mediocre during super rugby, but light it up when they put the jersey on Rokocoko & Nonu come to mind
jesus..2.5good games in 5 years/30 tests....
calm down, the question was has anyone improved - Frizell? - meaning Frizell potentially, he's come out of nowhere this year as you've highlighted, but i'm not suggesting its a consistent thing yet
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@Dan54 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Anyway I am no doubt the idiot of the board
steady on, it's a competitive field!
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@Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Re ST....is there anyone that has lifted their game under fozzie?....is there anyone that plays better for the AB's than in super anymore? feel like at most there are a few that play as well but several that seem to go down hill in the black jersey
Lomax? Bower?
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@nostrildamus maybe, definitely feels like they're thin on the ground
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@Kiwiwomble said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@nostrildamus maybe, definitely feels like they're thin on the ground
that's 242kg of thin, but I know what you mean!
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forgive my studied ignorance but is it allowable to send the ABs out on the field but swap Rieko and Leicester? That would mess with Irish plans!
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@Kiwiwomble RTS
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
He's ready and waiting. In Chch...
And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills
Isn't GB in the NH now?
