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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    #51

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.

    Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.

    Nepia
    Hastings
    Clarke

    Never saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO

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    #52

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.

    Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.

    Nepia
    Hastings
    Clarke

    Never saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO

    Nepia and Clarke off reputation.

    Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.

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    #53

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.

    Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.

    Nepia
    Hastings
    Clarke

    Never saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO

    Some reckon Andy Irvine and Stuart Hogg were better than old Gav.

    He was a damn fine all round player though.

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    #54

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.

    He was an outstanding kicker when 55 yard rugby was the norm and had unbelievable hands apparently, but always thought he was regarded as pretty limited?

    Personally, I'd rate Fergie McCormick up there.

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    #55

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.

    He was an outstanding kicker when 55 yard rugby was the norm and had unbelievable hands apparently, but always thought he was regarded as pretty limited?

    Personally, I'd rate Fergie McCormick up there.

    Fergie played all of 16 tests...

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    #56

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.

    Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.

    Nepia
    Hastings
    Clarke

    Never saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO

    Nepia and Clarke off reputation.

    Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.

    Huh? Never heard that before, it 's always me.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    #57

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.

    He was an outstanding kicker when 55 yard rugby was the norm and had unbelievable hands apparently, but always thought he was regarded as pretty limited?

    Personally, I'd rate Fergie McCormick up there.

    Fergie played all of 16 tests...

    About 5 years worth.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    #58

    @Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.

    Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.

    Nepia
    Hastings
    Clarke

    Never saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO

    Nepia and Clarke off reputation.

    Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.

    Huh? Never heard that before, it 's always me.

    Let me tell you a little tale....

    Did a sponsored walk from Naenae to Wellington in my early teens. Bloke at the finish signs my form as completed. Bloke had charisma and looked a fit mid-60's. Go home, show my form to my Dad and he gets very excited and asked me to describe bloke.

    The name on the form was "George Nepia".

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    #59

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.

    Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.

    Nepia
    Hastings
    Clarke

    Never saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO

    Nepia and Clarke off reputation.

    Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.

    Huh? Never heard that before, it 's always me.

    Let me tell you a little tale....

    Did a sponsored walk from Naenae to Wellington in my early teens. Bloke at the finish signs my form as completed. Bloke had charisma and looked a fit mid-60's. Go home, show my form to my Dad and he gets very excited and asked me to describe bloke.

    The name on the form was "George Nepia".

    Nice. I have a card with his signature on that my great grandmother gave to me.

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    #60

    @canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:

    I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.

    They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars

    Pffft hahaha what?

    Did you just skip 2003?

    Nonu and tana midfield

    Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
    Jerry. Richie.
    Kev

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    #61

    @mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:

    I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.

    They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars

    Pffft hahaha what?

    Did you just skip 2003?

    Nonu and tana midfield

    Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
    Jerry. Richie.
    Kev

    That's because they tried the journeyman plan in 2001/2002 and then saw the Blues in 2003 and went fuck that works, then adopted their game plan.

    You having a shot @MN5's biggest Domehead fluffer title? 😉

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #62

    @mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:

    I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.

    They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars

    Pffft hahaha what?

    Did you just skip 2003?

    Nonu and tana midfield

    Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
    Jerry. Richie.
    Kev

    Yeah but Rueben Thorne, Caleb Ralph and Sam Broomhall played too

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    @Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:

    I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.

    They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars

    Pffft hahaha what?

    Did you just skip 2003?

    Nonu and tana midfield

    Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
    Jerry. Richie.
    Kev

    That's because they tried the journeyman plan in 2001/2002 and then saw the Blues in 2003 and went fuck that works, then adopted their game plan.

    You having a shot @MN5's biggest Domehead fluffer title? 😉

    Nah I just know Cullen was cooked in 2003
    Domehead brought in some of my favourite ABs
    I love pumping a great Wallabies team and the Boks by 50 at their house
    He brought back the Bledisloe

    Won 82% of his tests

    Put some fucking respect on his name

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    @MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:

    He gave some pretty clear reasons for why he dropped Cullen but by Christ they went down like a shit sandwich.

    I guess that comes down to was a case of was a 80% Cullen as good as 100% MacDonald/Blair ?

    At the time, easily. At 50% he'd be better than a 200% Blair.

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    #65

    And a 300% Ben Atiga

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by antipodean
    #66

    @MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:

    I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.

    They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars

    Pffft hahaha what?

    Did you just skip 2003?

    Nonu and tana midfield

    Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
    Jerry. Richie.
    Kev

    Yeah but Rueben Thorne, Caleb Ralph and Sam Broomhall played too

    Who picked the backs and who picked the forwards between Mitchell and Deans?

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    #67

    @mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Domehead brought in some of my favourite ABs

    Didn't he bring in the GOAT to Josh Kronfeld's changrin?

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:

    I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.

    They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars

    Pffft hahaha what?

    Did you just skip 2003?

    Nonu and tana midfield

    Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
    Jerry. Richie.
    Kev

    That's because they tried the journeyman plan in 2001/2002 and then saw the Blues in 2003 and went fuck that works, then adopted their game plan.

    You having a shot @MN5's biggest Domehead fluffer title? 😉

    Nah I just know Cullen was cooked in 2003
    Domehead brought in some of my favourite ABs
    I love pumping a great Wallabies team and the Boks by 50 at their house
    He brought back the Bledisloe

    Won 82% of his tests

    Put some fucking respect on his name

    Yeah, it was great when we pumped them with Henry's Blues blueprint (ba doom tish) not so great when we got outmuscled by the past their greatness Wallabies team because he forgot the Blues plan involved forward dominance.

    KHunt is the respectful name I give him and is all he deserves.

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    @antipodean said in Old AB teams discussion:

    @MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:

    He gave some pretty clear reasons for why he dropped Cullen but by Christ they went down like a shit sandwich.

    I guess that comes down to was a case of was a 80% Cullen as good as 100% MacDonald/Blair ?

    At the time, easily. At 50% he'd be better than a 200% Blair.

    But we really didn't see much of Blair at AB level did we? I vaguely recall he had a bit of a shocker but was otherwise injured (and may have played with a dodgy shoulder?) I assumed at the time he was there as they did not trust Carlos to kick goals and Blair had a great %.

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    replied to Nepia on last edited by nostrildamus
    #70

    @Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:

    Huh? Never heard that before, it 's always me.

    Maybe I'm older or younger but both were deadset legends. I think each has advantages, maybe one on the bench?

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