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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    loool

    smear you? all that took was to repeat the shit you yourself said champ

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    He's like a populist politician. Next he'll be claiming that the board vote to oust him was rigged

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    loool

    smear you? all that took was to repeat the shit you yourself said champ

    "Hi Hamish - did you get that shipment of rope yet? Make sure you've got enough eh?"

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    Exclusive - Rugby Australia boss breaks silence after being sacked 🏉 - Ben Fordham Live

    LIsten to him deliberately not answer questions.

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    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

    LIsten to him deliberately not answer questions.

    Classic Hamish

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    Geoff Parkes sums things up well

    Incredibly, offered a lifeline by his board on Saturday, another 24 hours to show why he should be retained as chair, McLennan reverted to type, and sealed his own fate.
    
    If there was ever a moment where he needed to show contrition and some ability to be able to bring rugby’s stakeholders together, McLennan, already in a huge hole, chose to keep digging, urging state representatives to move against their own boards, as punishment for their ‘disloyalty’. He couldn’t see it, but he was merely doing the state’s work for them, proving their point.
    
    It might be one thing for McLennan to be at war with some states, electing to go to an EGM determined to bulldoze his way through, but it’s another thing to drag all of the board into the impossible position where they would have to justify and validate his enmity, as central figures in a war none of them ever wanted to be part of.
    

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/11/19/analysis-mclennans-fatal-blind-spot-and-why-his-exit-leaves-australian-rugby-in-a-better-place-and-a-worse-one/

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    @KiwiMurph echo echo echo...

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    And now of course, there are those who want the Board sacked as well.

    Dunno if that is more a help than a hindrance. But they weren't the individual out taking potshots at all and sundry.

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    Everyone knows successful sportsmen make excellent administrators.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    It's a fine balance. Many people in the RA building have never been involved in rugby prior to their appointment. That isn't ideal, either.

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    @MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

    They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.

    And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.

    Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!

    Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.

    Which I've never understood

    If you failed you were obviously in over your head

    What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning

    Madness

    Not that I'm saying that it's right, but CEO's are about their network more than anything else. Ability to pick up a phone to somebody else in a similar position and know they will take your call.

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    Without reading the thread, what is John Eales up to these days? Has he been considered (or currently in) a real leadership role for the ARU?

    Had it all on the field, has he got it off the field?

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    https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/11/20/rugby-australia-boss-ousted-in-extraordinary-late-night-meeting/

    And he's gone. Daniel Herbert is next man up

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133319767/hamish-mclennans-exit-will-be-welcomed-by-new-zealand-rugby

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    @Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.

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    “The next couple of months is important putting the foundations in. We keep looking for a sugar hit, it’s just not coming,” Herbert said.

    Looks like new boss has a few brain cells, only took 20 years for RA to learn

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    @Tim said in Aussie Rugby:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133319767/hamish-mclennans-exit-will-be-welcomed-by-new-zealand-rugby

    Cully gets it right again: zero sum. That's how McLennan saw the world.

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    @Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:

    @Tim I read that earlier and tend to agree. One of the problems I had with Hamist when he came in was his confrontational manner, which I always had the impression was to show the Aussie rugby public he wasn't going to be pushed around? He did it in press and it got lapped up by some, and why I always thought he was a bit of a publicity hound, and that was way of operating. I thought the same when he kept waving red flag at League, (a game I don't like etc) ,but I just thought a lot of it was not best prctice.

    Publicity hound is right. Bloke was addicted to media. He's done at least five 'tell all' interviews since the World Cup, and even after being voted out he did multiple radio interviews. I think being open to talking to media is good but there's a tipping point somewhere.

    Hamish wanted to be seen as the big man who made the big calls. And he wanted to be celebrated when it went right (World Cup bids) but avoid criticism when it went wrong (Eddie).

    It always works until it doesn't and I'm surprised he didn't realise that. But people like Hamish never realise that. They never understand the idea that it might be good to exit stage left and give someone else a turn. They think the whole thing lives and dies with them.

    Had he left after the World Cup, I think he would be viewed differently. People would respect the balls to make the big calls, and resign when the biggest call didn't work out. Instead he hung on, insisting we needed him and it was all a witch hunt from jaded losers who were out to get him. It was sad.

    The fact the board decision was unanimous was the final, brutal nail in the coffin. He lived by the sword and by god he died by it.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    i reckon he really wants to be Peter V'Landys. But Pete is way more ruthless.

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    And Pete had cut his teeth for years in the racing industry before taking the reigns of the NRL. He'd honed his playbook to a fine art. Hamish thought he could run rugby like a hedge fund and just plow through bad results like nothing happened.

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