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    @Bones said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris He didn't have to say it. All this repeated eligibility talk from Razor was about Richie.

    From the Media yes Razor never mentioned Mounga, until they bought it up so can you read Razors mind.

    Is Kaino still lacing up?

    If only, at Toulouse skills coach and academy assistant coach.

    Maybe it is Lock where they are looking to shore up.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Clarke's problems are mental more than physical - i.e. workrate - be interesting if O'Halloran can make any shifts for Clarke during Super.

    His lack of balance might be both mental and physical

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    Is Fergus Burke really next in line? He's so nondescript that I've been muddling him up with Brett Cameron in my head while reading this thread - until just now when I clicked they're different.

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    He is a good few months away with his injury. He has played mostly at fullback, at the Saders he is seen as Richie's heir, time will tell.

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    @Nepia said in Crusaders 2024:

    Is Fergus Burke really next in line? He's so nondescript that I've been muddling him up with Brett Cameron in my head while reading this thread - until just now when I clicked they're different.

    I think that's fair though. Neither are stand up and look at me 10s (thus far).

    I think Cameron came back from Japan better than he left, I'm interested to see what he can do in Super rugby this year.

    Burke, jury still out but he is at the right team to get a very fucking good chance, so I like his chances with Razor - unless Havili ends up at 10.

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    @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

    It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

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    @Nepia I get what you mean. It seems that for the last 4 years super rugby coaches have opted for rather ordinary options at 10 (when they have more exciting candidates or guys with greater potential in their squad or even wider training groups). It seems like no one wants to take a punt on anyone not 100% unspectacular.

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    @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

    It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

    I think it could be someone else,
    Another poster a little while back who has a strong connection to Razor mentioned a lock might not be done for the next WC and he is pretty on to what he posts.

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    @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

    @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

    It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

    The only other player that could be in the group of ‘want haves’ is Leicester, and again, if he is the savior we are well fucked.

    Pick Dmac, Beauden, Perofeta, Cameron, or Burke or Ioane. A combination of three of them puts him well in contention with other international teams post a WC.

    As surf Jesus coach, he has plenty of talent.

    Maaaaaaybe he isn’t quite so surfy? Or so Jesusy? Or so?

    And maybe he knows it now that he knows that he doesn’t automatically have the best spine in the competition.

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    @gt12 Agree on most everything you wrote (maybe not the name Beauden).

    I'll add another question: What if Razor was planning to unveil The Cantablacks 2.0 as his first squad, but without Richie he's going down a more balanced route? Ok, I'm just joking here.

    Still, it might just be "wanting to work with players he knows" initially. Anyone know any non-crusaders in their mid-20s that Razor coached at u-19 level?

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    @Punch_up You can find the NZ U20 squads for 2015 and 2016 here:

    https://nextgenxv.com/list-of-new-zealand-under-20-rugby-players/

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    @Chris I guess that could be true. I just think they should renew their squad a bit more instead of luring older players back.

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    @Tim Thanks, that was quick.

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    replied to Chris on last edited by gt12
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    @Chris

    Getting BBBR back to sign on with NZ rugby was the NZRU's problem.

    And, honestly, is he the lock to take us to 2027?

    He's not young now, so again, if we are going to break up everything for a player - is he that player looking to 2027?

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    @Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris I guess that could be true. I just think they should renew their squad a bit more instead of luring older players back.

    Not disagreeing with you on that, I am not a fan of bringing players back in to the AB's from overseas.
    Pick them from our comps is what I want to see still happening.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris

    Getting BBBR back to sign on with NZ rugby was the NZRU's problem.

    And, honestly, is he the lock to take us to 2027?

    He's not young now, so again, if we are going to break up everything for a player - is he that player looking to 2027?

    I am not a Fan of it time to move on,We should keep the status quo pick players from our competition and keep them strong.

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    @Punch_up can we have a side bet on this. Media bought up Richie. What about whitelock or Leicester.

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    @chchfanatic I can see the need for Whitelock or Retallick, but why bother with Leicester Fainga'anuku?

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    #496

    I dont think it’s a great look for Robertson to be talking about picking overseas players when we haven’t even started a domestic season yet.

    I know he was asked a question but ‘no comment’ would have been appropriate on this one.

    You took the job based on the criteria of picking Nz based players only. Just do the job on that basis.

    He will be asked this at every press conference going forward, especially if we lose some games.

    I’m not sure the board are going to be thrilled with these headlines.

    Apart from that, looking forward to seeing how his team shape up this year. Lot of rugby to be played before then though.

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    replied to gt12 on last edited by canefan
    #497

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris

    Getting BBBR back to sign on with NZ rugby was the NZRU's problem.

    And, honestly, is he the lock to take us to 2027?

    He's not young now, so again, if we are going to break up everything for a player - is he that player looking to 2027?

    BB too

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