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  • canefanC Online
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    I agree with KW and those who believe if something was to be done, 2011 was the time. There are much more pressing needs in Auckland that need dealing with now

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    @Kirwan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    @Kirwan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    Just finish off Eden Park and stop wasting money. This will never happen.

    I’m not a fan of Eden park location wise…I really thought this was put to bed with the 2011 RWC development, thought that was the time to make the big decisions

    When were last there, with the new transport links it’s trivial to get to. Easy to park as well if you drive.

    2022, have some friends that live a couple
    Of blocks away, visited for abs v wallabies…was a shit show compared to almost any other major stadium I’ve been too, I was happy we were walking

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    Have been to every main stadium in the northern hemisphere, except for Italy. Eden Park compares favourably IMO, just wish it was bigger.

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    @Kirwan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    Have been to every main stadium in the northern hemisphere, except for Italy. Eden Park compares favourably IMO, just wish it was bigger.

    Come on, Cardiff shits on it for atmosphere, viewing, and location

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    @voodoo said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    @Kirwan said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    Have been to every main stadium in the northern hemisphere, except for Italy. Eden Park compares favourably IMO, just wish it was bigger.

    Come on, Cardiff shits on it for atmosphere, viewing, and location

    All I’m saying is it’s far from a shit show, feels a little bit like cultural cringe.

    It’s way easier to get to Eden Park than Twickenham, for example.

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    eden park is infinitely better than it use to be and the stadium itself is good and the connection to the train station is ok

    but it will always be what it is, four separate stands with some weird changes in grade and or misalignments and you will always come out onto small residential streets on three sides and sandringham road might be distributer rd by NZ standards but its till just 1+bus in each direction and for the years i lived a bit further down it its was always blocked up around events

    as i say i think they have done as well as can be expected given the constraints and i think IF they were going to do something different it was for the RWC

    everything is subjective i guess too, i never found twickenham hard to get too, longer walk from the station but large concourse and carpark around it kind of allowed the growds to disburse

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    Bus to and from Eden Park are easy now since the RWC. Traffic free zone means they get away from the ground easily to a variety of different destinations. Parking is also easy enough if you know wherE to go. About a 20 minute walk. The location issues with EP have always been massively overstated. Even walking into the CBD is only an hour or so.

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    Isn't part of the charm of Eden Park is that it isn't your stock standard stadium like say Olympic Park? It's a genuine suburban/town park like Twickenham/Murryfield used to be (I haven't been to either in 20 years so not sure if they've been stadium-ified since then.

    I'm not from Auckland and have never had trouble finding a park within walking distance of the ground.

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    @dogmeat said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    Even walking into the CBD is only an hour or so.

    I used to live on Lorne St, so near the middle of Queen St. It took me 40mins to walk there

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    @Duluth I'm old..... 😉

    Actually 45 minutes sounds about right but I was going off Google Maps.

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    Plus the CRL is coming. Will be a huge difference. Although don't know if / how Kingsland Station handles it on a big event day.

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    @nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    Stadia are cool, but the business cases almost never stack up.

    To make an economic case for a new stadium all AB home matches would need to move to Auckland. Even then it wouldn’t justify the cost

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    @Duluth which im not actually against in principle as then the rest of the country could have smaller more economically justifiable stadiums and actually try and fill them...but thats another decision that would have to have been made a long time ago, at least for new stadium like Forsyth Barr of even the cake tin got the go ahead in their current forms

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    @dogmeat is that from a proposal? or just an artists impression from an article?...seems extravagant

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    @dogmeat said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

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    Looks like a Pink Floyd concert, so another good reason to build it. Judging by NZ's expertise in building infrastructure, it should be ready by 2038 and only cost $798 trillion.

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  • A Online
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    Consent for day lighting might push it beyond 2050

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    @Kiwiwomble It's from the article Winger posted. The tower is an All Blacks hotel. The stadium itself is surrounded by commercial and residential developments.

    I added the pigs....

    This would need Quay and the Strand to be realigned. Everything as far as mechanics bay to be bowled and the railways lines to be undergrounded. That's just the preparatory work.

    They are very nice renders Here's another one with about as much chance of being built

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    @dogmeat said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:

    I added the pigs....

    NZ and Auckland should aim high. Eden Park will always be no more than adequate. It's better than the joke cake tin design (but what wouldn't be) but not as good as the Dunedin stadium.

    Spending even more on Eden Park is throwing more good money after bad. Time to bite the bullet etc. Have something that stands out and we can all be proud of rather than bland and a little embarrassing. And what's a billion plus. And Auckland deserves this. But stick at 55,000. Thats more than enough

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    I missed this article

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350224881/national-stadium-getting-closer-becoming-reality-assessor-views-options

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