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  • boobooB Offline
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    Loves Wags.

    But it's time.

    Jeez It's been a great decade and a bit.

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    @canefan said in Wags retires:

    What does he mean feel like a Kiwi? He is a Kiwi, he's one of us. I'll always loves Wags, such an understated part of our GOAT bowling attack. Like the postman he rarely failed to deliver I'm his prime. Bowled his guts out with the old ball on unhelpful wickets, just an absolute workhorse

    Um, these are his words, not some sad journalists.

    He's obviously a true blue South African underneath the skin, but is saying that the way he's been treated & welcomed, makes him feel like a Kiwi. It's the same way I'll feel when England comes a calling for me to represent them at ... ummm ... errr ...

    It's a very complimentary thing to say. And yes, it's a two way street as I feel exactly the same as you.

    What an innings.

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    Unfortunately there isn't the graphic in the online article below but of the NZ bowlers who have taken more than 100 test wickets Wags has the second-best strike rate (52.78) behind Hadlee.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350194223/black-caps-bowler-neil-wagners-fire-burnt-brightly-till-end

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    Stuff have stuffed up with this survey

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    The reality is the pace bowling stocks aren't that good but Wags wasn't either and there are different options available with more of a future.

    Great career from the Fern fave.

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    Steve Smith:
    Former Australia captain believes the persistent bowling of bouncers to a leg side field needs to be addressed.
    Smith would like to see umpires given greater power to call wides.
    The 34-year-old pays tribute to his retiring nemesis Neil Wagner.

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    Wagner will be missed, his figures against Smith — 4-27 off 26.3 overs — suggest a genuine edge for the ex-Kiwi quick over his illustrious rival.

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    Would probably sneak into the Albion Cricket Club (Dunedin) all time XI, I guess.

    Might have to open the bowling with Sneds though, as we're spinner-heavy (Mark Craig, John Bracwell, Nathan McCullum)

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    For me a lot of the appeal about Wags was that he didn't seem to have the highest amount of natural talent that a bowler could have but he threw himself 110% into the fray with a heart and passion that would overwhelm much "finer" batsmen and get results surpassing those of "better" bowlers.

    You could see that on the pitch he absolutely gave it his all and as a fan that's all you ask of the people in your team.

    Yes he had a style of bowling that some people may say was grubby, he would irritate and intimidate batsmen till they lashed out in frustration, anger or fear and that probably generated more of his wickets than line, length, swing or seam.

    But to give him credit he had a style that he stuck to, executed well and got NZ crucial wickets bowling with a dead ball at times in the innings where it would be easy for the batting team to run away with it. And at the times the NZ bowlers had the edge he would provide relentless pressure to ensure the advantage didn't slip.

    I loved the guys work rate, effort and passion. He deserves as much as anyone to be in that golden period of NZ test match cricket. Well played Wags, enjoy your retirement.

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    The article I posted mentions that Wagner was originally a much quicker bowler but later changed to be the bowler we all loved.

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    Always wondered how he would have gone in ODIs. He would have needed to adjust to more pitched up type bowling but he did have a decent first class limited overs record. Shame he never had a chance to see if he could have played both

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    @Virgil said in Wags retires:

    Always wondered how he would have gone in ODIs. He would have needed to adjust to more pitched up type bowling but he did have a decent first class limited overs record. Shame he never had a chance to see if he could have played both

    I could never understand why he didn't get a shot. I think he earned an opportunity to show if he could do the business with the white ball

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    An absolute legend and his 110% effort he gave will be missed. Interestingly I heard from a source Southee wanted him out of the team..and playing devils advocate it was interesting to see how little he bowled during the South African series.

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    @Windows97 said in Wags retires:

    For me a lot of the appeal about Wags was that he didn't seem to have the highest amount of natural talent that a bowler could have but he threw himself 110% into the fray with a heart and passion that would overwhelm much "finer" batsmen and get results surpassing those of "better" bowlers.

    You could see that on the pitch he absolutely gave it his all and as a fan that's all you ask of the people in your team.

    Yes he had a style of bowling that some people may say was grubby, he would irritate and intimidate batsmen till they lashed out in frustration, anger or fear and that probably generated more of his wickets than line, length, swing or seam.

    But to give him credit he had a style that he stuck to, executed well and got NZ crucial wickets bowling with a dead ball at times in the innings where it would be easy for the batting team to run away with it. And at the times the NZ bowlers had the edge he would provide relentless pressure to ensure the advantage didn't slip.

    Not that I'm a tennis fan/officiando but there are similarities here to Lleyton Hewitt.

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    @Bovidae said in Wags retires:

    The article I posted mentions that Wagner was originally a much quicker bowler but later changed to be the bowler we all loved.

    It was performances like this before he played for New Zealand that had everyone so excited - the short pitched bowling came later on.

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    @KiwiPie said in Wags retires:

    @Bovidae said in Wags retires:

    The article I posted mentions that Wagner was originally a much quicker bowler but later changed to be the bowler we all loved.

    It was performances like this before he played for New Zealand that had everyone so excited - the short pitched bowling came later on.

    I remember that, that amazing achievement is what got the calls going for him to be eligible to play for NZ

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