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    Mr Fish
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    Didn't Razor explicitly say already he wasn't going to pick Cane for July due to his injury battles this year but that he'd come into contention for the RC?

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    @Duluth I think there will be 5 props, at least for the home games.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    If we go down to the poms the sharks will be taking chunks out of the sufboard before he's paddled past the breakers.

    I think England will be tougher than many think and why I expect a pretty conservative approach selection and game plan-wise.

    It would be pretty dumb to get the knives out if we ship a game against the Poms - which I don't think will happen. Lose a couple of games in the RC and on the EOYT and I think some questions will rightly be asked.

    Given I didn't watch the Six Nations - what should we expect from England? Is this basically the team they used - or did they have Farrell etc?

    Others are more capable of commenting, and they are rebuilding in places, but have a strong pack and the backs are starting to gel. There's 4-5 news caps IIRC. I rate Borthwick as a coach - he getting their heads into the right space.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    If true, that's such a backwards selection. I thought Razor was all about innovation and picking the 'best' players? Cane hasn't played for ages and is 'E Blackadder' level injury prone these days.

    First Test in charge, wants to get off to a good start, same forwards coach, pick as much of the RWC team as possible?

    There is a logic to it. Innovation can kick in once he has his feet under the table

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Machpants Cheers.

    What about their other backs - any new guns?

    As @Machpants said, there's some exciting players out wide. 4-5 new caps IIRC. Ollie Lawrence is developing in midfield with Slade. Marcus Smith is a talent, but over-hyped. Overall, I think our 10-15 is much better.

    My big concern is around who Robertson plays at 9 as the England pack could well be a handful.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I rate Borthwick as a coach

    Think he's pretty ordinary myself.

    Lucky you specified coach though, he'd be even worse as a player I reckon. Probably a shit physio too.

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Cane was good enough to be AB captain last year and if Razor considers him fit enough with two weeks to get a squad ready to play against England, why wouldn't he be in the squad?

    Because he's an absolute warrior who is really limited in his game.

    Hopefully he was at the camp to deliver motivational talks to the lads about legacy.

    Coach in his first-ever Test and a new captain - makes perfect sense to get a bloke with Cane's experience involved.

    Whatever limitations Cane may have, excess of ego and lack of esprit de corps aren't on the list.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I rate Borthwick as a coach

    Think he's pretty ordinary myself.

    Lucky you specified coach though, he'd be even worse as a player I reckon. Probably a shit physio too.

    He was no Martin Johnson, Danny Greenock or Simon Shaw

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I rate Borthwick as a coach

    Think he's pretty ordinary myself.

    Lucky you specified coach though, he'd be even worse as a player I reckon. Probably a shit physio too.

    He was no Martin Johnson, Danny Greenock or Simon Shaw

    Trust you to not be able to Grewcock

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I rate Borthwick as a coach

    Think he's pretty ordinary myself.

    Lucky you specified coach though, he'd be even worse as a player I reckon. Probably a shit physio too.

    He was no Martin Johnson, Danny Greenock or Simon Shaw

    Trust you to not be able to Grewcock

    Was typing one handed while flipping chicken on the Weber.

    Be thankful I gave your lame post the time of day

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Was typing one handed while flipping chicken on the Weber.

    How is Brad these days?

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    If there's 5 loosies and two of them are Ardie & Cane, there's only three places for SR players. If Blackadder takes up one of them then there's only two loosies with meaningful SR form

    Remember when Canes fans were talking about how many loosies they were going to have in the squad? It could easily be zero from this years team

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

    Considering Razor dropped Wyatt Crockett on 99 caps, I highly doubt he is being "nursed" to 100.
    That's not the way Razor works.

    It'll be because they still rate him

    On what basis though? He's hardly played this year and when he has it has been in the Japan league which is a massive step down from test rugby. Razor made a comment that he was going to pick the 'best players', Cane isn't that anymore.

    So you too think Ardie should be in the NPC instead?

    How good is this week going to be.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    How good is this week going to be.

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    @Victor-Meldrew ordering that shit just to see how I reuse the digested popcorn.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I rate Borthwick as a coach

    Think he's pretty ordinary myself.

    Lucky you specified coach though, he'd be even worse as a player I reckon. Probably a shit physio too.

    He was no Martin Johnson, Danny Greenock or Simon Shaw

    Trust you to not be able to Grewcock

    Was typing one handed while flipping chicken on the Weber.

    Is that what you youngsters call it nowadays?

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I rate Borthwick as a coach

    Think he's pretty ordinary myself.

    Lucky you specified coach though, he'd be even worse as a player I reckon. Probably a shit physio too.

    He was no Martin Johnson, Danny Greenock or Simon Shaw

    Trust you to not be able to Grewcock

    Was typing one handed while flipping chicken on the Weber.

    Is that what you youngsters call it nowadays?

    You just wait until they get a mains powered rotisserie

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    Given his versatility I wonder if Poihipi has caught Panadol’s eye? Part of probably the most dangerous Superb rugby backline.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Given his versatility I wonder if Poihipi has caught Panadol’s eye? Part of probably the most dangerous Superb rugby backline.

    Apparently Holland is the midfield selector so I don't think there will be any surprises. I think they'll select four midfielders, and I can't see anyone else pushing out ALB, JB, RI and BP at this late stage.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Given his versatility I wonder if Poihipi has caught Panadol’s eye? Part of probably the most dangerous Superb rugby backline.

    Apparently Holland is the midfield selector so I don't think there will be any surprises. I think they'll select four midfielders, and I can't see anyone else pushing out ALB, JB, RI and BP at this late stage.

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    @gt12 isn't Havili injured?

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