Still talking about Foster
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[Edit - forked from the AB 2024 thread]
The fern was spot on. Ryan was key.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The fern was spot on. Ryan was key.
Pretty insightful stuff from the big man. Clearly he did not agree with the players going to bat for Fozz. Foster always said he felt badly treated by the way the NZRU announced Razor. Maybe so, but in almost any other high performance pro sporting setup if you lost that number of games and played that poorly I would have expected him to be fired long before Joburg
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@Toddy said in All Blacks 2024:
Would mean more if he'd actually done something about it.
That's tough mate. He risked fracturing the senior player group. After reading that excerpt it might actually be worth reading the whole thing. Sounds like he's actually got stuff to say
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
The fern was spot on. Ryan was key.
It wasn' that clear cut. It more like Plumtree wasn't doing his job properly.
But also it might be a bit of arse covering by Sam
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Toddy said in All Blacks 2024:
Would mean more if he'd actually done something about it.
Like What ? he could hardly isolate himself from the Rest of the leadership group he had to stick with the rest of the group and support them.
Of course he could. As it is he comes across as a bit pathetic and weak
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:
@Toddy said in All Blacks 2024:
Would mean more if he'd actually done something about it.
That's tough. He wasn't opposed, was 50 50... But a leadership group should stick together if possible.
If he felt the way he said in the article he could / should have expressed his viewpoint to the group (and then stayed silient re the media etc) and declined to be at the meeting
If he had asked why just no comment. As it was it looked bad for Robertson that even his SR captain didn't support a change
Regarding th meeting. Without Whitelock it meant nothing. As the others would ahve bene perceived as just looking after their own self-interest.
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@Winger said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Toddy said in All Blacks 2024:
Would mean more if he'd actually done something about it.
Like What ? he could hardly isolate himself from the Rest of the leadership group he had to stick with the rest of the group and support them.
Of course he could. As it is he comes across as a bit pathetic and weak
Your comment comes across as weak and pathetic.
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@Winger said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Toddy said in All Blacks 2024:
Would mean more if he'd actually done something about it.
Like What ? he could hardly isolate himself from the Rest of the leadership group he had to stick with the rest of the group and support them.
Of course he could. As it is he comes across as a bit pathetic and weak
We're talking about the bloke that played lock for the All Blacks over 150 times? Won two RWCs?
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Whitelock says he actually had no opinion on who should of been coach, whether Fozzie should stay etc or go. Don't have a problem with him saying nothing.
The interesting thing he says about Plumtree and Moaar wer sacked after a group he was part of gave them bad review, so you wonder a bit.
Other thing he say is . Fozzie didn’t have enough international experience and skills in his team.
Lucky he not playing now there is vitually no international experience.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
@Winger said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024:
@Toddy said in All Blacks 2024:
Would mean more if he'd actually done something about it.
Like What ? he could hardly isolate himself from the Rest of the leadership group he had to stick with the rest of the group and support them.
Of course he could. As it is he comes across as a bit pathetic and weak
We're talking about the bloke that played lock for the All Blacks over 150 times? Won two RWCs?
He comes across as pathetic and weak in this situation
He isn't prepared to stand by an action he took. Not a leader rather than just a (weak) follower. I was disappointed when I read this
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024:
Whitelock says he actually had no opinion on who should of been coach, whether Fozzie should stay etc or go. Don't have a problem with him saying nothing.
The interesting thing he says about Plumtree and Moaar wer sacked after a group he was part of gave them bad review, so you wonder a bit.
Other thing he say is . Fozzie didn’t have enough international experience and skills in his team.
Lucky he not playing now there is vitually no international experience.
So it all looks a little confusing.Agree. Its not a good look for Sam.
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These comments on here are exactly the reason why Whitelock kept his head down.
The fault is NZR who fell short with the coach re appointment process and ongoing assessment.
Don't get me started on Silverlake.
There has been a consistent playing style so far this year by the ABs, good ball retention and building pressure.
Silverlake will be very happy.
