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    • Crucial
      Crucial last edited by Duluth

      Probably time to start up the squad threads as signing news starts filtering in...

      I have taken the Wiki list as a starter. Please add info as it comes to hand

      PROPS
      Gone:
      Pauliasi Manu (to Blues)
      Confirmed:
      Kane Hames
      Nepo Laulala
      Atunaisa Moli

      2016 others
      Siegfried Fisiihoi (wider training group)
      Mitchell Graham
      Siate Tokolahi
      Hiroshi Yamashita

      HOOKERS
      Gone:
      Rhys Marshall (to Ireland Munster)
      Confirmed:
      Hika Elliot
      Nathan Harris

      LOCK
      Confirmed:
      Michael Allardice
      Dominic Bird
      Brodie Retallick

      2016 Others
      James Tucker (wider training group)

      LOOSE FORWARDS
      Confirmed
      Johan Bardoul
      Sam Cane
      Mitchell Karpik

      2016 Others
      Lachlan Boshier
      Sam Cane
      Sam Henwood
      Mitchell Karpik
      Tevita Koloamatangi
      Liam Messam
      Tom Sanders
      Taleni Seu

      N8
      Gone
      Ma'ama Vaipulu (to France Castres)
      Confirmed
      none
      2016 Others
      Mitchell Brown (short-term)
      Michael Leitch

      HALFBACK
      Gone
      Augustine Pulu (to Blues)
      Confirmed
      Tawera Kerr-Barlow
      Brad Weber

      2016 Others
      Kayne Hammington (short-term)

      FIRST FIVE
      Gone
      None
      Confirmed
      Aaron Cruden
      2016 Others
      Stephen Donald

      MIDFIELD
      Gone
      Seta Tamanivalu (to Crusaders)
      Substituted off Sonny Bill Williams (to Blues)
      Confirmed
      Anton Lienert-Brown
      Charlie Ngatai

      2016 Others
      Sam Vaka (wider training group)

      OUTSIDE BACKS
      Gone
      Andrew Horrell (to Japan Coca-Cola Red Sparks)
      Confirmed
      Glen Fisiiahi
      James Lowe
      Toni Pulu
      Tim Nanai-Williams
      Damian McKenzie

      2016 Others
      Shaun Stevenson (wider training group)
      Chase Tiatia (did not play)
      Latu Vaeno (wider training group)
      Sam McNicol

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      • Unco
        Unco last edited by

        I'm hoping the Chiefs find a spot for Sevu Reece. He's been all class for Waikato.And I'd like to see Faiva and Douglas at least get WTG spots.

        The TNW signing depends entirely on how they use him. Outside backs = good. Centres = shit.

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        • Stargazer
          Stargazer last edited by

          Has the TNW signing be confirmed? I thought the media were just expecting him to re-sign? Can't find it on Chiefs website.

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          • Tim
            Tim last edited by

            You'd think they'd be looking at Joe Tupe for 8/6.

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            • Crucial
              Crucial @Stargazer last edited by

              @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2017:

              Has the TNW signing be confirmed? I thought the media were just expecting him to re-sign? Can't find it on Chiefs website.

              http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/85378694

              You are correct. The headline of the article says he has re-signed but the first line says it is only 'believed'

              I'll leave him in there at the moment though as these rumours are usually true if they have gone so far as to make it to print.

              Messam returning is still just a rumour as far as I know.

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              • Bovidae
                Bovidae @Crucial last edited by

                @Crucial said in Chiefs 2017:

                Messam returning is still just a rumour as far as I know.

                It was always signalled that Messam would return after his stint in Japan so I'd say that is more probable than possible.

                As for the 3rd halfback, Pele Cowley was actually in the squad as Pulu's replacement before Hammington. Cowley then got injured himself.

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                • Milk
                  Milk last edited by

                  Sam Cane is in there twice?

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                  • Crucial
                    Crucial @Milk last edited by

                    @Milk said in Chiefs 2017:

                    Sam Cane is in there twice?

                    Yes. Because he is awesome.

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                    • Milk
                      Milk @Crucial last edited by

                      @Crucial Makes sense. He'll have a big workload next year, twice the work of some lesser players.

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                        Cpt Kumera last edited by

                        johan has gone to japan

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                        • Crucial
                          Crucial @Cpt Kumera last edited by

                          @Cpt-Kumera said in Chiefs 2017:

                          johan has gone to japan

                          Is it an 'off-season' thing though? As far as I can tell he is still contracted to the Chiefs.

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                          • Stargazer
                            Stargazer @Crucial last edited by

                            @Crucial said in Chiefs 2017:

                            @Cpt-Kumera said in Chiefs 2017:

                            johan has gone to japan

                            Is it an 'off-season' thing though? As far as I can tell he is still contracted to the Chiefs.

                            Yes, signed through to 2017.

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                            • Hooroo
                              Hooroo last edited by

                              Wow! Didn't realise SBW had gone to the Blues

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                              • MN5
                                MN5 @Hooroo last edited by MN5

                                @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2017:

                                Wow! Didn't realise SBW had gone to the Blues

                                Just hand them the title now I reckon. After that I have it on good authority that SBW is heading to the Canes then the Highlanders to become the only player to grace all five franchises with his presence.

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                                • mariner4life
                                  mariner4life @Tim last edited by

                                  @Tim said in Chiefs 2017:

                                  You'd think they'd be looking at Joe Tupe for 8/6.

                                  they fucking better be

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                                  • Crucial
                                    Crucial last edited by

                                    Hammington has signed with the Highlanders. He has a good relationship with Rennie so you'd think he was given the heads up on plans for a third halfback.

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                                      cgrant last edited by

                                      They need a third hooker. Faiva is the probable one but I like the young Misa who is an outstanding off the bench option. Reilly (Bay of Plenty) has a good season too.

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                                      • Crucial
                                        Crucial @cgrant last edited by

                                        @cgrant said in Chiefs 2017:

                                        They need a third hooker. Faiva is the probable one but I like the young Misa who is an outstanding off the bench option. Reilly (Bay of Plenty) has a good season too.

                                        Given that is is unlikely they will have a big name third hooker I would say the third spot will be a WTG one (and probably one other in the training squad as well). They will probably be looking at potential and succession planning.

                                        These were the players named in the Development squad early in the year

                                        Joseph Royal (BOP)
                                        Epalahame Faiva (W)
                                        Steven Misa (W)

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                                        • Bovidae
                                          Bovidae @Crucial last edited by

                                          Messam and TNW are confirmed.

                                          Latest Chiefs News | Chiefs - Hamilton
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                                          • Unco
                                            Unco last edited by

                                            Good news. Are they still playing in Japan or will they play in the NPC next year too? Messam's only 15 caps away from 100 Waikato caps, it'd be cool to see him reach it.

                                            Still hoping like hell Rennie keeps TNW away from the midfield.

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                                            • Stargazer
                                              Stargazer @Bovidae last edited by

                                              @Bovidae That's indeed good news! The media release doesn't say for how long TNW has re-committed to the Chiefs, but Messam has signed for two years. In the past, if I remember it correctly, NZR was not prepared to re-sign NZ players if they - again - wanted stints overseas (particularly Japan) during the SR off-season. I'm thinking of Tamati Ellison. If that's correct, then it's likely he'll play for Waikato again? That's assuming he'll probably not get an AB call-up (except in case of many injuries).

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                                              • Bovidae
                                                Bovidae @Unco last edited by

                                                @Unco I'd say Messam is back for good so would be available for Waikato too. A loose forward combo of Messam, Cane and Leitch will be handy with Sanders, Seu, Bardoul, Karpik, Boshier as backups.

                                                For TNW, the only starting position available to him would be right wing fighting with Pulu. He could be used as a third option in the midfield in a match-day 23.

                                                My starting backline would be: TKB-Cruden-Lowe-Ngatai-ALB-TNW/Pulu-DMac.

                                                We'll see who else is in the squad next week.

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                                                • Milk
                                                  Milk last edited by

                                                  Hard to imagine TNW not getting time in midfield... we're looking pretty light there.

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                                                    cgrant last edited by

                                                    McNicol has developped very well this season so he could be the starter on the right wing.

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                                                      Crash last edited by

                                                      Glad Hames and Harris have re-signed. After having watched the Otago=Harbour final, what about Ruru for third halfback? He may put some pressure on the incumbents..
                                                      Also is Ngatai fit? Will his head problems continue? Would love to have him back in midfield, but signs are not great.
                                                      Not really seen anything f Joe Tupe here, but if others think he is worth it - hope the Chiefs sign him up.

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                                                      • Milk
                                                        Milk last edited by Milk

                                                        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/85848101/chiefs-confirm-return-of-liam-messam-and-tim-nanaiwilliams-for-super-rugby

                                                        With Seta Tamanivalu having left for the Crusaders, Andrew Horrell having gone to Japan and not confirmed to be returning, and Charlie Ngatai still under a cloud due to concussion, the midfield looms as a spot for Nanai-Williams, but his versatility will be a real asset for Rennie.
                                                        "Tim's a top man who brings experience and leadership," Rennie said. "His speed and outstanding skill set gives him the flexibility to play anywhere in the backline, a huge asset in such a demanding campaign

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                                                          Steven Harris last edited by

                                                          The Chiefs have signed Northland fullback Solomon Alaimalo,who can also play wing and centre,he was offered a WTS with the Blues,but has settled on a full contract with the chiefs

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                                                          • taniwharugby
                                                            taniwharugby @Steven Harris last edited by

                                                            @Steven-Harris they were keen on him prior to the MItre 10 Cup didnt they?

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                                                            • Bovidae
                                                              Bovidae @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                              @taniwharugby I only watched 40 mins of Northland this year (the 1st half vs Waikato) so know nothing about him. He looks similar in stature to Stevenson. What's his background?

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                                                              • Stargazer
                                                                Stargazer @Steven Harris last edited by

                                                                @Steven-Harris I'm trying to keep a list of signings with references. Do you have an (online) source for this news?

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                                                                • Duluth
                                                                  Duluth @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                  @Bovidae

                                                                  He looked good like a good attacking player for the first few weeks of the NPC. In the Taniwha forum there was plenty of people talking him up at that stage.
                                                                  Unfortunately his form dropped away for the rest of the season..

                                                                  I'm surprised he has got a full contract. Seems like a guy who was on the edge of non-selection/WTG

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                                                                  • taniwharugby
                                                                    taniwharugby @Bovidae last edited by taniwharugby

                                                                    @Bovidae I think he played age group stuff for Canterbury a couple of seasons back as well as 7s for them.

                                                                    He did start very well this season, but was almost like he lost confidence and didnt back himself to take on the defence or beat a man despite appearing to have very good pace.

                                                                    Has the raw the ingredients.

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                                                                    • Bovidae
                                                                      Bovidae @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                                      Seems like a strange decision then, especially if Stevenson isn't offered a full contract for 2017. Rennie and co did pick a few surprises this year.

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                                                                      • taniwharugby
                                                                        taniwharugby last edited by

                                                                        yeah is somewhat surprising he has a full contract, which looks like it is based on potential, as I understand the Chiefs were looking at him before the Mitre 10 season kicked off.

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                                                                          Steven Harris @Duluth last edited by Steven Harris

                                                                          @Duluth sorry,no online information,just purely a very good source ,Sean Stephenson has signed with North Harbour for the 2017 Mitre 10 cup season,so it would not surprise me if he has signed with the Blues,also Lolagi Visinia does not have a contract.

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                                                                          • Bovidae
                                                                            Bovidae @Steven Harris last edited by

                                                                            @Steven-Harris Stevenson will still be with the Chiefs for 2017 according to the newspaper article reporting his move back to NH.

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                                                                              Steven Harris @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                              @Bovidae,thanks for that update,be really intersting to see how much game time Stephenson gets at fullback,given Tim Nani Williams has resigned,along with the option of Damien McKenzie.

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                                                                              • booboo
                                                                                booboo last edited by

                                                                                Any thought being given to Michael Little?

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                                                                                  African Monkey @booboo last edited by

                                                                                  @booboo Would be handy backup for any side. I rate the guy but unfortunately most sides have their midfields sorted.

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                                                                                  • Bovidae
                                                                                    Bovidae @booboo last edited by

                                                                                    The Chiefs will need another midfielder or two. It will depend on whether Vaka and Donald are offered contracts again.

                                                                                    Little is quite small but he plays above his weight (to use a horrible cliche). Has Vaega got a Blues contract for 2017? He could be another option.

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