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    @Crucial said in Earthquake:

    I have also been in some '70s buildings in Welly that are solid as fuck. In that style it seems you head to the stairwell as that is by far the most structurally sound piece and is likely to remain standing even if everything else comes down.

    Just be careful with that. A lot of stairwells were not designed for seismic drift during the earthquakes and wound up collapsing in Christchurch.

    Notable example: Forsyth Barr
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7079907/Engineers-finally-able-to-access-Forsyth-Barr

    Give me a modern building over a 1970's building any day of the week please

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    Rescuers have saved the cows. Locals are now planning a BBQ to celebrate.

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    @nzzp said in Earthquake:

    @Crucial said in Earthquake:

    I have also been in some '70s buildings in Welly that are solid as fuck. In that style it seems you head to the stairwell as that is by far the most structurally sound piece and is likely to remain standing even if everything else comes down.

    Just be careful with that. A lot of stairwells were not designed for seismic drift during the earthquakes and wound up collapsing in Christchurch.

    Notable example: Forsyth Barr
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7079907/Engineers-finally-able-to-access-Forsyth-Barr

    Give me a modern building over a 1970's building any day of the week please

    I was talking to a guy yesterday who was home from work waiting for the engineers to give his building [transpower I think? I'll ask next time I see him]the all clear . It was built along similar lines to that ctv building and took a bit of a hiding in the last big one, he's hoping they decide its time to move their offices elsewhere.

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    @No-Quarter said in Earthquake:

    Rescuers have saved the cows and the locals are now enjoying a big BBQ.

    If you want to troll a vegan today is your lucky day, check out the comments

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/86460020/whats-happened-to-the-cows-stranded-on-a-quake-island

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    @jegga said in Earthquake:

    @nzzp said in Earthquake:

    @Crucial said in Earthquake:

    I have also been in some '70s buildings in Welly that are solid as fuck. In that style it seems you head to the stairwell as that is by far the most structurally sound piece and is likely to remain standing even if everything else comes down.

    Just be careful with that. A lot of stairwells were not designed for seismic drift during the earthquakes and wound up collapsing in Christchurch.

    Notable example: Forsyth Barr
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7079907/Engineers-finally-able-to-access-Forsyth-Barr

    Give me a modern building over a 1970's building any day of the week please

    I was talking to a guy yesterday who was home from work waiting for the engineers to give his building [transpower I think? I'll ask next time I see him]the all clear . It was built along similar lines to that ctv building and took a bit of a hiding in the last big one, he's hoping they decide its time to move their offices elsewhere.

    Don't just take our words for it, check it our for yourself:

    http://www.mbie.govt.nz/publications-research/research/building-and-construction/quake-forsyth-barr-stairs-report.pdf

    it's a bit technical. OK, it's a lot technical... but it triggered rework on a number of buildings around the country (including one I spend time in)

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @jegga said in Earthquake:

    @No-Quarter said in Earthquake:

    Rescuers have saved the cows and the locals are now enjoying a big BBQ.

    If you want to troll a vegan today is your lucky day, check out the comments

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/86460020/whats-happened-to-the-cows-stranded-on-a-quake-island

    Well as any Wellingtonian will confirm travelling today is going to be hazardous so I'll have plenty of time in front of the computer. Sounds like fun.

    I must say Cows and Sheep complete lack of intelligence and common sense helps me justify eating them.

    Shame I also fucken love Bacon.....

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    @MN5

    A couple of favourites so far, I see Willie The Waiter has joined in.

    The small one, too old for veal?

    Why bother? The cows are more free than they've ever been. They're not being manipulated by hormones, artificially inseminated, drained of milk daily by machines so you can have milk on your Weetbix. In the farm the calf and mother will be separated permanently in the near future, and the adults will get a bolt through the head so you can have your burger on the barbie. Where is your moral sesnse when these creatures experience daily distress within industrialised farming. Going vegan is the highest moral response you could make in this situation. Not hoping the creatures will be rescued so they can endure more torture for your dietary benefit.
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    1 hour ago
    WillietheWaiter
    MMMMMmmmmmm Burgers nom nom nom
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    1 hour ago
    Georgie206
    These are beef cows not dairy cows... You are quite misinformed on your comment there.
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    1 hour ago
    Effectuality
    The heart bleeds, mate. Just kidding; my burger does.
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    1 hour ago
    Mahara Davis
    Thumbs up fellow vegan! Truth not appreciated here. That's why they thumb down-Bad Conscience.
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    55 minutes ago
    Del Griffith
    I want to thank you vegans for leaving more meat for the rest of us.

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    @jegga said in Earthquake:

    @MN5

    A couple of favourites so far, I see Willie The Waiter has joined in.

    The small one, too old for veal?

    Why bother? The cows are more free than they've ever been. They're not being manipulated by hormones, artificially inseminated, drained of milk daily by machines so you can have milk on your Weetbix. In the farm the calf and mother will be separated permanently in the near future, and the adults will get a bolt through the head so you can have your burger on the barbie. Where is your moral sesnse when these creatures experience daily distress within industrialised farming. Going vegan is the highest moral response you could make in this situation. Not hoping the creatures will be rescued so they can endure more torture for your dietary benefit.
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    1 hour ago
    WillietheWaiter
    MMMMMmmmmmm Burgers nom nom nom
    Reply+1

    1 hour ago
    Georgie206
    These are beef cows not dairy cows... You are quite misinformed on your comment there.
    Reply+11

    1 hour ago
    Effectuality
    The heart bleeds, mate. Just kidding; my burger does.
    Reply+2

    1 hour ago
    Mahara Davis
    Thumbs up fellow vegan! Truth not appreciated here. That's why they thumb down-Bad Conscience.
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    55 minutes ago
    Del Griffith
    I want to thank you vegans for leaving more meat for the rest of us.

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    @Godder said in Earthquake:

    @Chris-B. said in Earthquake:

    Would have been interesting times if Wellington had been flattened with a big storm following on its heels.

    As it is, I see the Stats NZ building has had a floor collapse - nobody in it because the CBD buildings are still closed pending engineering reports etc, but had that been during the day with people at work...

    My companies office in Wellington is closed pending a detailed Engineers report. The report yesterday showed the Elevators weren't able to work and the engineers want to have a better look at the basement and the support structures

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    Just read about that Godder, you'd get chills if you worked on or below that floor!!

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  • Stockcar86S Offline
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    replied to jegga on last edited by
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    @jegga said in Earthquake:

    @nzzp said in Earthquake:

    @Crucial said in Earthquake:

    I have also been in some '70s buildings in Welly that are solid as fuck. In that style it seems you head to the stairwell as that is by far the most structurally sound piece and is likely to remain standing even if everything else comes down.

    Just be careful with that. A lot of stairwells were not designed for seismic drift during the earthquakes and wound up collapsing in Christchurch.

    Notable example: Forsyth Barr
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7079907/Engineers-finally-able-to-access-Forsyth-Barr

    Give me a modern building over a 1970's building any day of the week please

    I was talking to a guy yesterday who was home from work waiting for the engineers to give his building [transpower I think? I'll ask next time I see him]the all clear . It was built along similar lines to that ctv building and took a bit of a hiding in the last big one, he's hoping they decide its time to move their offices elsewhere.

    I worked for Transpower in their main building in the Terrace for a year. I got lots of shit for keeping a pair of steel toed boots permanently under my desk, so I could walk home through all the broken glass if the big one hit Wellington. The problem with moving out of that building for Transpower is that is where one of the two control centres are for the national grid (the other is outside Hamilton) - it is not an small or easy task to build a new one...

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    @Stockcar86 I'm pretty sure we are talking about the same building, he said the stairwells in particular were a source of concern . Reading the report NZZP posted wouldn't make you feel too good if you worked there.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    Te Papa would still be the safest place to be in an Earthquake wouldn't it ?

    the amount of times I get dragged there by the boys ( on the plus side it's free I suppose ) I'm amazed I haven't been there during one.

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    Is Te Papa built on floats so that it won't sink if the land goes under? Or was that just a dumb rumour?

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    @MN5 nah bro, we're pretty safe here....

    I have never even felt an earthquake so cant even imagine what it must be like going through this, let alone over and over for so many.

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    @No-Quarter said in Earthquake:

    Is Te Papa built on floats so that it won't sink if the land goes under? Or was that just a dumb rumour?

    It's built on some kind of movable foundation, if that makes sense as in it will "sway" with the quake.....I think.

    @taniwharugby I guess living in the sticks has the odd advantage here and there.

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    @MN5 said in Earthquake:

    @No-Quarter said in Earthquake:

    Is Te Papa built on floats so that it won't sink if the land goes under? Or was that just a dumb rumour?

    It's built on some kind of movable foundation, if that makes sense as in it will "sway" with the quake.....I think.

    @taniwharugby I guess living in the sticks has the odd advantage here and there.

    From https://www.tepapa.govt.nz/about/our-building#Earthquake protection

    Earthquake protection

    Our building sits close to a major fault line on soft, reclaimed land – how do we keep our taongataonga treasures and people safe?

    To stabilise the site, 30-tonne weights were dropped on the ground 50,000 times – much to the dismay of nearby residents! Shock absorbers made of rubber and lead allow the building to move in earthquakes – up to half a metre in any direction.

    In a major earthquake, Te Papa would be among the safer places in Wellington.
    In a one-in-250-year earthquake, the building would be unharmed.
    In a one-in-500-year earthquake, the building would need repairs.
    In a one-in-2000-year earthquake (‘the big one’), the people and collections inside Te Papa would be safe, but the building might have to be demolished.

    Quake Braker

    Quake Braker | Te Papa

    Quake Braker | Te Papa

    Go underground to see the amazing Kiwi innovation that ‘puts the brakes on’ in an earthquake.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @nzzp said in Earthquake:

    @MN5 said in Earthquake:

    @No-Quarter said in Earthquake:

    Is Te Papa built on floats so that it won't sink if the land goes under? Or was that just a dumb rumour?

    It's built on some kind of movable foundation, if that makes sense as in it will "sway" with the quake.....I think.

    @taniwharugby I guess living in the sticks has the odd advantage here and there.

    From https://www.tepapa.govt.nz/about/our-building#Earthquake protection

    Earthquake protection

    Our building sits close to a major fault line on soft, reclaimed land – how do we keep our taongataonga treasures and people safe?

    To stabilise the site, 30-tonne weights were dropped on the ground 50,000 times – much to the dismay of nearby residents! Shock absorbers made of rubber and lead allow the building to move in earthquakes – up to half a metre in any direction.

    In a major earthquake, Te Papa would be among the safer places in Wellington.
    In a one-in-250-year earthquake, the building would be unharmed.
    In a one-in-500-year earthquake, the building would need repairs.
    In a one-in-2000-year earthquake (‘the big one’), the people and collections inside Te Papa would be safe, but the building might have to be demolished.

    Quake Braker

    Quake Braker | Te Papa

    Quake Braker | Te Papa

    Go underground to see the amazing Kiwi innovation that ‘puts the brakes on’ in an earthquake.

    I'm moving in

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    @Donsteppa said in Earthquake:

    @taniwharugby said in Earthquake:

    @Donsteppa you are an anti-end-of-the-worlder aren't you, I can just tell.

    I'm prepared, I have my Zombie Trump Super Moon apocalypse pack handy!

    I'll go and get another vaccination and drink a glass of fluoridated water that day.

    are you getting the google ad about Fluoride now?

    www.fluoridefacts.govt.nz

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    The locals put on breakfast for tourists stranded in Kaikoura including 1.5 tonnes of donated crayfish

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