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    • Tim
      Tim last edited by Tim

      The ten coolest day jobs held by players at the 1991 Rugby World Cup

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      • Tim
        Tim last edited by

        Twenty years on, Tommy Raudonikis remembers ‘Cattledog’ like it was yesterday

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        • mariner4life
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          God i miss real origin.

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          • Rapido
            Rapido @Tim last edited by Rapido

            @Tim said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

            The ten coolest day jobs held by players at the 1991 Rugby World Cup

            Although not mentioned in that article for obvious reasons, but Dan Crowley was in the 1991 RWC squad, he went one better than just detective.

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            • Rapido
              Rapido last edited by

              I can remember the occupations of lots of the AB teams from my youth. From their profiles.

              Eg I'll try to do the 87 World Cup team:
              Gallagher: Policeman
              Kirwan: Shamateur
              Stanley: owner driver
              Taylor: ?
              Green: Builder
              Fox: marketing? Worked for that CSL or IMG or sum fin like that.
              Kirk: med student / doctor
              Shelford: navy
              M Jones: student
              A Whetton: ?
              Pierce: Policeman
              G Whetton: ?
              Drake: ?
              Fitzpatrick: builder
              McDowell: publican?

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              • Tim
                Tim last edited by

                I think Gary Whetton was an accountant.

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                • nzzp
                  nzzp @Rapido last edited by

                  @Rapido said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                  I can remember the occupations of lots of the AB teams from my youth. From their profiles.

                  Eg I'll try to do the 87 World Cup team:
                  Gallagher: Policeman
                  Kirwan: Shamateur
                  Stanley: owner driver
                  Taylor: ?
                  Green: Builder
                  Fox: marketing? Worked for that CSL or IMG or sum fin like that.
                  Kirk: med student / doctor
                  Shelford: navy
                  M Jones: student
                  A Whetton: ?
                  Pierce: Policeman
                  G Whetton: ?
                  Drake: ?
                  Fitzpatrick: builder
                  McDowell: publican?

                  Kirwan Shamateur Butcher's apprentice

                  Olo Brown: Accountant

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                  • Tim
                    Tim @nzzp last edited by

                    @nzzp Don't think Olo was playing back then ... 😉

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                    • Rapido
                      Rapido last edited by

                      It was a bit easier a few years earlier when I first started watching the game, just insert "farmer" for every second player.

                      1982 was first rugby I watched.

                      Hewson: can't remember, but know his family business was in Hutt , can't think what it was?
                      S Wilson: publican
                      Pokere: ? (Got up to white collar shananigans after retirement iirc), thinking an accountant?
                      Taylor: ?
                      Fraser: publican
                      W Smith: ?
                      Loveridge: pig farmer
                      Mexted: car salesman (family business)
                      Hobbs: lawyer
                      Shaw: farmer
                      Haden: everything .....
                      G Whetton: accountant according to Tim above
                      Knight: farmer
                      Dalton: farmer
                      Ashworth: farmer

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                      • Rapido
                        Rapido last edited by Rapido

                        With the original linked article: 10 most interesting occupations of 1991 players. Didn't mention Bunce, but was he still a rubbishman in 1991?

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                        • Catogrande
                          Catogrande last edited by

                          Not in the England 1991 squad but my favourite was Darren Garforth. Passport said Tubular Technician. Reality: Scaffolder.

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                          • nzzp
                            nzzp @Tim last edited by

                            @Tim said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                            @nzzp Don't think Olo was playing back then ... 😉

                            Yeah, but Olo is Olo. He deserves a place on every list ...

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                            • nzzp
                              nzzp @Rapido last edited by

                              @Rapido said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                              With the original linked article: 10 most interesting occupations of 1991 players. Didn't mention Bunce, but was he still a rubbishman in 1991?

                              'Rubbishman' could be replaced with 'paid cross training' -- the job was just running, lifting and throwing for hours on end. Got people bloody fit, and you can pay les mills to let you do it with a medicine ball now 🙂

                              I think Chris Tregaskis was a rubbishman for a while too.

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                              • Crucial
                                Crucial last edited by Crucial

                                I'll always remember the day Peter Fats and his boys delivered a piano to my flatmate down two flights of steps.

                                Wasn't the old joke that forwards are the piano movers and backs the piano players?

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                                • dogmeat
                                  dogmeat @Rapido last edited by

                                  @Rapido
                                  If JK was a shamateur butcher then McDowell was definitely a shamateur publican

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                                  • Tim
                                    Tim @Crucial last edited by

                                    @Crucial He moved pianos for us when I was a kid. Once his daughter helped out. Definitely the largest woman I'd seen then.

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                                    • Rapido
                                      Rapido @dogmeat last edited by

                                      @dogmeat said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                      @Rapido
                                      If JK was a shamateur butcher then McDowell was definitely a shamateur publican

                                      I mean by that time (1987) Kirwan was a shamateur for Benneton in Italy.

                                      He was genuinely an apprentice butcher circa 1983 etc. I think it was his dad's butchery.

                                      Not sure exactly when he started summering in Trevino.

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                                      • SammyC
                                        SammyC last edited by

                                        I've got that book that was released a few years back ranking the 100 best All Blacks of all time.

                                        Well at least I did.... I leant it to someone recently and can't remember which one of my firends has pinched it.

                                        The best part is looking up what the players did for a living.

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                                        • jegga
                                          jegga @nzzp last edited by

                                          @nzzp said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                          @Rapido said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                          With the original linked article: 10 most interesting occupations of 1991 players. Didn't mention Bunce, but was he still a rubbishman in 1991?

                                          'Rubbishman' could be replaced with 'paid cross training' -- the job was just running, lifting and throwing for hours on end. Got people bloody fit, and you can pay les mills to let you do it with a medicine ball now 🙂

                                          I think Chris Tregaskis was a rubbishman for a while too.

                                          Tregaskis nickname was trash, he was a qualified builder but went to the rubbish trucks , he's a tiler now. Jerry Collins was a rubbish man too, a few ex Wellington players I've met over the years did a stint picking up rubbish. Wellington was one of the last places for them to pick up the bins and drop them back. That must have sucked if you had the oriental bay run you'd be bloody fit though.

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                                          • Wally
                                            Wally last edited by

                                            Quite a few players in the 60s were listed as "brewery reps". When I was a kid I used to wonder what that meant.

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                                            • Chris B.
                                              Chris B. last edited by

                                              Pretty sure Warwick Taylor was a teacher. Wayne Smith, as well - but for at least a while he worked at the Belfast Freezing Works.

                                              I worked in the same building as Jock Hobbs and caught the lift with him on several occasions.

                                              Chris Jack is working as a builder these days, in Nelson. Saw him at the supermarket last year.

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                                              • mariner4life
                                                mariner4life @Chris B. last edited by

                                                @Chris-B. said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                Chris Jack is working as a builder these days, in Nelson

                                                shit he must have to get custom made earmuffs

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                                                • Stargazer
                                                  Stargazer last edited by

                                                  This seemed the best thread to post this. I think it's hilarious! 😀

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                                                  • Stockcar86
                                                    Stockcar86 @jegga last edited by Stockcar86

                                                    @jegga said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                    @nzzp said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                    @Rapido said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                    With the original linked article: 10 most interesting occupations of 1991 players. Didn't mention Bunce, but was he still a rubbishman in 1991?

                                                    'Rubbishman' could be replaced with 'paid cross training' -- the job was just running, lifting and throwing for hours on end. Got people bloody fit, and you can pay les mills to let you do it with a medicine ball now 🙂

                                                    I think Chris Tregaskis was a rubbishman for a while too.

                                                    Tregaskis nickname was trash, he was a qualified builder but went to the rubbish trucks , he's a tiler now. Jerry Collins was a rubbish man too, a few ex Wellington players I've met over the years did a stint picking up rubbish. Wellington was one of the last places for them to pick up the bins and drop them back. That must have sucked if you had the oriental bay run you'd be bloody fit though.

                                                    Norm Hewitt was a rubbish man too, good exercise for a front rower

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                                                    • Stargazer
                                                      Stargazer @Stockcar86 last edited by Stargazer

                                                      @Stockcar86 said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                      @jegga said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                      @nzzp said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                      @Rapido said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                      With the original linked article: 10 most interesting occupations of 1991 players. Didn't mention Bunce, but was he still a rubbishman in 1991?

                                                      'Rubbishman' could be replaced with 'paid cross training' -- the job was just running, lifting and throwing for hours on end. Got people bloody fit, and you can pay les mills to let you do it with a medicine ball now 🙂

                                                      I think Chris Tregaskis was a rubbishman for a while too.

                                                      Tregaskis nickname was trash, he was a qualified builder but went to the rubbish trucks , he's a tiler now. Jerry Collins was a rubbish man too, a few ex Wellington players I've met over the years did a stint picking up rubbish. Wellington was one of the last places for them to pick up the bins and drop them back. That must have sucked if you had the oriental bay run you'd be bloody fit though.

                                                      Norm Hewitt was a rubbish man too, good exercise for a front rower

                                                      Liam Messam:

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                                                      • Bovidae
                                                        Bovidae @Stargazer last edited by

                                                        @Stargazer The Sumo Messam is referring to is Keith Lowen. He owns a rubbish collection business.

                                                        Another ex AB who used to be on the bags in my suburb was the late Aaron Hopa.

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                                                        • Stargazer
                                                          Stargazer last edited by

                                                          I had to check, but it's definitely not the 1st of April!

                                                          New All Black birth certificate launched
                                                          
                                                          The Department of Internal Affairs has launched a new All Black themed decorative birth certificate.
                                                          
                                                          The new decorative certificate is now available for purchase, and joins the existing beach and forest themes for people wanting something a little different from the standard certificate.
                                                          
                                                          Around 180,000 birth certificates are issued every year and Deputy Registrar-General Adrian Jarvis says they are delighted for people to have the option of an official licensed product to mark their special delivery.
                                                          
                                                          "We think that these are a great way for All Blacks fans to show their support, whether they are new babies or older fans wanting a new certificate.
                                                          
                                                          "We’ve been working hard to make sure we could launch the new certificate while one of our great rival teams is touring," Mr Jarvis says.
                                                          
                                                          All births must be registered in New Zealand, and this can now be done easily anytime anywhere through SmartStart, an online tool which contains step-by-step information to help parents and babies get off to the best start.
                                                          
                                                          SmartStart has already had over 80,000 visits and more than 5,000 due dates entered. For more information on SmartStart, visit smartstart.services.govt.nz
                                                          
                                                          Parents can choose whether or not to purchase a birth certificate. All Blacks birth certificates can be ordered by calling 0800 22 52 52.
                                                          
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                                                          • Kruse
                                                            Kruse @Stargazer last edited by

                                                            @Stargazer W.... T.... F?
                                                            Well, I guess I can no longer get annoyed by foreign journo's describing NZ as "rugby-obsessed" or referencing the All Blacks as "the national religion".
                                                            FFS DIA, just... FFS.

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                                                            • Tim
                                                              Tim last edited by

                                                              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11868370

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                                                              • taniwharugby
                                                                taniwharugby @Tim last edited by

                                                                @Tim haha thats cool!!

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                                                                • Stargazer
                                                                  Stargazer last edited by

                                                                  Bloody hell!

                                                                  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11897249

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                                                                  • mikedogz
                                                                    mikedogz @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                    @Stargazer seen that, he must have a tumour in his brain or something.

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                                                                    • mikedogz
                                                                      mikedogz @mikedogz last edited by

                                                                      He probably wouldn't stand out so much if he was playing with other islander kids.

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                                                                      • Stargazer
                                                                        Stargazer @mikedogz last edited by

                                                                        @mikedogz said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                                        @Stargazer seen that, he must have a tumour in his brain or something.

                                                                        Yeah, I was immediately thinking about medical causes. That size is not normal, not even for big Island kids of that age.

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                                                                        • Smudge
                                                                          Smudge @Rapido last edited by

                                                                          @Rapido said in General discussion, nostalgia, and trivia:

                                                                          I can remember the occupations of lots of the AB teams from my youth. From their profiles.

                                                                          Eg I'll try to do the 87 World Cup team:
                                                                          Gallagher: Policeman
                                                                          Kirwan: Shamateur
                                                                          Stanley: owner driver
                                                                          Taylor: ?
                                                                          Green: Builder
                                                                          Fox: marketing? Worked for that CSL or IMG or sum fin like that.
                                                                          Kirk: med student / doctor
                                                                          Shelford: navy
                                                                          M Jones: student
                                                                          A Whetton: ?
                                                                          Pierce: Policeman
                                                                          G Whetton: ?
                                                                          Drake: ?
                                                                          Fitzpatrick: builder
                                                                          McDowell: publican?

                                                                          I have John Kirwan's Rugby World open in front of me.

                                                                          They are as follows:

                                                                          Gallagher - policeman
                                                                          Crowley - farmer
                                                                          Kirwan - he doesn't mention what he's doing at that point, but it's probably somewhere in the book
                                                                          Green - roofing contractor
                                                                          Wright - auditor
                                                                          Stanley - runs his own cartage business
                                                                          Taylor - schoolteacher
                                                                          McCahill - painter
                                                                          Fox - ''sports marketing"
                                                                          Botica - works for a courier firm
                                                                          Kirk - student
                                                                          Deans - shepherd
                                                                          Shelford - ''sports promotion"
                                                                          A Whetton - cartage contractor
                                                                          Jones - second degree at uni
                                                                          Brooke - plumber
                                                                          Brooke-Cowden - switched to league, so doesn't mention his previous occupation
                                                                          Earl - farmer
                                                                          G Whetton - sales manager
                                                                          Pierce - policeman
                                                                          Anderson - farmer
                                                                          McDowell - sales rep
                                                                          Fitzpatrick - sales rep
                                                                          Drake - corporate banker
                                                                          Loe - sales rep
                                                                          Dalton - farmer

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