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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #281

    They have a decent range there usually (although havent been out there for about a year)

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  • MN5M Offline
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    [quote name='Paekakboyz' timestamp='1357284960' post='335486']<br />
    Chur lads, will check those out. Been cranking Asahi at the moment. Doz for $24 which is far cheaper than the usual $16-17 for a half doz... hope they aren't made with radioactive ingredients!<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    Asahi, number one beer in Japan despite being Czech I believe ?<br />
    <br />
    A Pom and I nailed 48 in one night, we were house sitting and had never met but by the end of the night had solved all the worlds problems. That will always be my abiding memory of that drop but it's decent, no doubt about it and yeah at that price it can't be beat. <br />
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    MajorRage.....you'd get on well with the wifes Uncle who drinks anything as long as its Tui <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/fishing.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':fishing:' /><br />
    <br />
    Personally haven't had a Waikato since the 90's but is it true it is identical to Speights in every way but its name ?

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  • dogmeatD Offline
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    #283

    All the big brand Lion "ales" are the same beer. Speights Gold, Lion Red, Canterbury Draught, Waikato. It's all the same weasel piss and if you refuse to accept this it just means the marketing plan worked on you.

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  • TimT Away
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    Any opinions on the Moa Original pilsner?

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #285

    [quote name='Tim' timestamp='1358135352' post='337211']<br />
    Any opinions on the Moa Original pilsner?<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    To be honest I haven't drunk Moa since they re-styled and embarked on their public offering and world branding (courtesy of the founding 42 Below Vodka guys). Nothing against them, or the beer (which IIRC was quite nice). It's just where they have positioned themselves in the market. They are aiming at a 'premium' market with very classy looking bottles and the price to match. The pricing just doesn't give value for money to me. The beer is very good but not OMG good. The recipes are quality but not overly interesting that you would pay more to try something different.<br />
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    I think that, as a business, they are going to do well as they have seen a market for a 'classy' beer at a premium price and will establish themselves in the world market before selling out to a major player and pocketing the profits (very much like the 42 Below re-run).

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    8 wired haywired wheat beer. As a fan of wheat beers I was a bit disappointed with this...<br />
    <br />
    Yeastie boys hud-a-wa strong, very hoppy aroma but pleasently surprised with the soft fruity flavour, not as fizzy as most beers but worked

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    8 wired haywired wheat beer. As a fan of wheat beers I was a bit disappointed with this...<br />
    <br />
    Yeastie boys hud-a-wa strong, very hoppy aroma but pleasently surprised with the soft fruity flavour, not as fizzy as most beers but worked

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  • AllstarA Offline
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    I find wheat beers in this part of the world a bit odd. They almost try and over-do it and get it wrong. They taste nothing like the German ones at all, and have got too many other ingredients in it to try and differentiate it from the rest. Went over for a jaunt in Aussie recently and found the same thing with their smaller craft breweries, there were only two I liked of the six or so I tried. <br />
    <br />
    Tried a few different other beers while I was over there, but I guess most of them aren't available in NZ. Little Creatures is always a nice place to go for a feed and a beer. They've got one in Ric***nd (Melbourne) now, which I enjoyed a lunch session at.<br />
    <br />
    (NB I wonder why it censored that place name)

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    Red Beard
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    [quote name='dogmeat' timestamp='1355818168' post='333004']<br />
    I drink craft almost exclusively. Its like wine. It's hard to go back to the cheaper stuff once you develop a taste.<br />
    <br />
    I also quite like that it makes me drink less.<br />
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    [/quote]<br />
    Same here. I now drink less beer (more red wine) but will always try to buy half dozen packs of new beer compared to boxes of same old.

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  • Stockcar86S Offline
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    Knocked back a couple of Moa breakfast beers. Supposedly a European style breakfast beer. After tasting this (pretty light and very fruity) I can see how this would go well with sausages and eggs for breakfast.<br />
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    Not sure why it is bottled with a cork rather than a cap though...

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  • AllstarA Offline
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    #291

    There's quite a few bars around Wellington that have a really good range of craft beer on tap. Of the ones I've been to lately - Bin 44 (opposite the Events Centre), Little Beer Quarter, and Meow (both up in a lane at the top end of Manners Street).<br />
    <br />
    If you like your hoppy strong beers, Tuatara have just released Conehead green hopped IPA. Very tasty.

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    [url="http://www.beertourist.co.nz/index.html"]http://www.beertourist.co.nz/index.html [/url]<br />
    for those with time on their hands and a sober driver. Not sure why the map looks like it is covered in blood splots.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    well, hasn't the NZ boutique brewery market just exploded? jesus, but there is suddenly a lot of range in the market. I think i tried a lot of the Pale Ale and Pilseners on offer. In my mind, the vast majority were seriously over priced, and not actually that good. For instance, i liked the Emersons, but it definitly didn't have "sessionability".<br />
    <br />
    I kept going to bars where my choice was 11-12 dollar bottles of craft beer. fuck off.<br />
    <br />
    Monteiths Pilsener, for all the competition on the market, is still my favourite NZ beer. And i would take "150 Lashes" over any of them.

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  • TimT Away
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    [quote name='mariner4life' timestamp='1367211114' post='362592']<br />
    well, hasn't the NZ boutique brewery market just exploded? jesus, but there is suddenly a lot of range in the market. I think i tried a lot of the Pale Ale and [b]Pilseners [/b]on offer. In my mind, the vast majority were seriously over priced, and not actually that good. For instance, i liked the Emersons, but it definitly didn't have "sessionability".<br />
    <br />
    I kept going to bars where my choice was 11-12 dollar bottles of craft beer. fuck off.<br />
    <br />
    Monteiths Pilsener, for all the competition on the market, is still my favourite NZ beer. And i would take "150 Lashes" over any of them.<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    I've had some decent beers that were labelled as Pilsners, but they didn't really taste like pilsners. More like an American IPA or something.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    They definitly don't taste like european pilseners anyway. i have found that, on both sides of the Ta$man, there is very little difference between the tastes of the Pilseners and Pale Ales. In most cases, the Pilsener is just more bitter.<br />
    <br />
    I am not saying they are bad, i just don't think they are worthy of the price, just so you can appear to be a bit cultured.

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #296

    IMO they definitely aren't as good as nice euro pilsners or kolsches. They also tend to give me a bit of a headache, and I find them a bit heavy after a couple.<br />
    <br />
    Am looking at doing a bohemian brewery tour later this year. That should be pilsner heaven. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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  • J Offline
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    #297

    Yeah the NZ boutique pilsners are all very dissapointing - just far to bitter, oddly enough the speights tap pilsner is ok but that's not saying much.<br />
    <br />
    A pity really as a nice pilsner is a a good a drop as any.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    What are you guys after in a Pilsner? There are different styles within Europe with the 'original' Bohemian style being more bitter (Saaz Hops); the Czech style which is lighter and a generic Euro style (which is really just your bog standard Euro lager).<br />
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    The NZ ones tend to be of the Bohemian style but they often confuse matters by mixing in other hop varieties than just Saaz, or in some cases no Saaz at all.<br />
    <br />
    Tuatara uses Pacific Jade. Motueka, Nelson Sauvin, and Riwaka.<br />
    Croucher uses Motueka and Riwaka<br />
    <br />
    Both of these beers are nice to drink but if you are after a taste the same as a brew from Bohemia then they will be different just because of the differing hop flavours.<br />
    <br />
    I doubt you'd find many craft brewed Pilsners in NZ that only use Saaz, and for good reason. They wouldn't differ much from the Bohemian variety as the would be using the same malt, same hops, same yeast. The only difference would be the water softness/ hardness. <br />
    <br />
    Why bother duplicating? Leave that for home brewers.

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  • dogmeatD Offline
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    #299

    You can get Urquell here at a reasonable price The original pilsner which I find similar to some of the more restrained kiwi ones. <br />
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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    I've done the Pilsener Urquell brewery tour in Pilzn, good tour. Part of it is down in the original cellars, where they still brew a batch the "traditional" way. Actually tasted pretty good.<br />
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    [img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208290_5451669063_9573_n.jpg[/img]

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