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    @dogmeat said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    I've only seen the last 20 minutes but I can't agree with the criticism of the adjudication. They're ruling to the letter of the law. We put ourselves in this position by poor technique and careless tackling - mainly because we are in danger of being over-run

    I'm only following on here, but it seems to me that while they're refereeing to the letter of the law, the bloody TMO seems to be sticking his bloody nose into everything.
    If they're going to rule on every second play, why not do away with the on field ref and just have the TMO do it from the comfort of his seat.

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    That was a great game of footy

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    Great game on tour. Justin Marshall hit it on the head when he said midweek rugby on tour is a good thing. It allows more young ABs to get game time in the black jersey

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    Well Aumua and Moli can certainly scrum based on that last set piece.

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    I thought the ref was ok. TMO? Not so much

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    Whitelock was very solid, reminds me of Cane. Do we need two solid flankers that work hard or should the 6 be the flashy hanging out on the wing type? In saying that Squire made some dominant tackles and good runs down that channel.

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    @canefan said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Great game on tour. Justin Marshall hit it on the head when he said midweek rugby on tour is a good thing. It allows more young ABs to get game time in the black jersey

    I’m surprised they haven’t done more revenue sharing midweek games. Would seem a no brainer in giving young blokes a go and making some coin at same time.

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    @kiwimurph said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Well Aumua and Moli can certainly scrum based on that last set piece.

    And Moli was at loosehead,wasn't he? It would be great if he can play at loosehaed, we are really thin in that position.

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    @canefan well surely the ref can tell the tmo to piss off. In this case the referee allowed the tmo to interfere

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    that tackle in the air had to be a YC IMO, it was one of the few where it obviously was not just a mistiming or a clash, but a straight up tackle of a bloke being a meter up in the air. I don't care whether he lands on his legs, his arse or his face, that had to be more than a penalty. Ref was OK in general play, though, very consistent and letting stuff go at the ruck.

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    Hansen just confirmed this was TKB's last game. Congrats to a good All Black, who would have gotten more caps if he hadn't had two better players ahead of him. Great NZ career, and a pity he's going overseas. Good luck to him in France!

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    @stargazer said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Hansen just confirmed this was TKB's last game. Congrats to a good All Black, who would have gotten more caps if he hadn't had two better players ahead of him. Great NZ career, and a pity he's going overseas. Good luck to him in France!

    Best AB on the park IMO. Best tackling halfback I've seen in a while

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    Au Revoir Tawera! You really were my favourite Waikato Halfback. Tough as teak!

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    Good player TKB and an underrated AB after a poor debut tour

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    Nathan Harris is poor mans Corey Flynn

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    @canefan said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    @stargazer said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Goodhue yellow carded for a tackle off the ball. Hmmm

    He did interfere with the runner but actually fell over and inadvertently tripped him. That's what happens when you put yourself at the mercy of the ref

    He put up an arm when he ran into the guy then they tumbled.

    Was Veldsman the TMO? Or dome other Shaun/Sean?

    The TMO protocols were awful. Comms problrms or no comms problems.
    TV producers did tgeur best to help "France" out IMO.

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    Aumua has talent but he is finding out international rugby is a different beast than U20s and M10 rugby and there isn't the same space. His only lineout throw was a shocker too (as were a couple from Harris).

    Pat T and TKB were the best ABs on the night. Laumape was good too apart from a terrible pass.

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    Anyway my 2c before I read the thread.

    What sort of kuck off time is 5mins before the hour? When I saw beIN's coverage was from 3.55 I set my alarm accordingly and turned on at 3.59 and it had been going 5 mins.

    Pat T lucky not to be carded gor high shot in first half.

    Generally good performance.

    Take out the intercept and it's pretty convincing.

    And the TMO shenanigans. I don't really like whinging about officiating but that really got my goay. Went one way IMO.

    Can't think of anyone really having a bad game. Laumape good cept for the obvious. Liked Pat T. Lima looked good (better than Mo'unga ... but he had the untidy period to play).

    More stuff as I think of it

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    @akan004 said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    @kiwimurph said in Pommie BaaBaa & Froggie XV:

    Well Aumua and Moli can certainly scrum based on that last set piece.

    And Moli was at loosehead,wasn't he? It would be great if he can play at loosehaed, we are really thin in that position.

    Good pickup. Yep he was packing at loosehead. Agreed it is good to see.

    He displayed some nice bench impact along with Akira Ioane who had a good showing and I thought Mounga looked sharp too.

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    some fella on Stuffs player ratings:

    David Havili 7: Not many attacking chances. Some confident high-ball takes, a well-read 22 catch and nice banana clearance, good floating ball for Duffie try. Caught in no-man's land in being unable to stop first French try.

    ​Matt Duffie 6: Palmed off big-time by Camille Chat, in memories of the Nadolo bump-off. Lean frame was hit backwards a few more times with ball in hand, but found a bit more space later, and had a good simple finish for 24th min try.

    Jack Goodhue 6: Sole new starting All Black had some good stuff undone by unfortunate 67th min yellow card, when stumbling into an early tackle on Henry Chavancy. Prior to that showed lovely vision and distribution, including nice floating ball for Squire to score. Good defensive reads too.

    ​Ngani Laumape 8: Strong carries as usual - no better than 56th min try where he ran over Vincent Rattezand close to line. Distribution a mix of lovely and awful - such as super quick-hands turning average Sopoaga pass into a Duffie try, then soon after throwing intercept-try pass which was forward anyway. Won a brilliant turnover steal penalty too.

    ​Seta Tamanivalu 7: Used plenty in midfield as a dangerous roamer, always strong. Some good runs down left flank, though couldn't finish great opportunity when mowed down in corner. Sucked in on defence to concede ABs' first try.

    ​Lima Sopoaga 6: Just a distributor, really. One early aimless kick, forward pass scuppered attacking chance on halftime. Solid front-on defence, kicked a lovely conversion from each sideline, subbed after 53min.

    Tawera Kerr-Barlow 6: Most likely his last match in ABs jersey before heading to La Rochelle. Decent defensive work, the odd good scamper, awful grubber into French legs, not the crispest night of distribution, with particularly awful pass off attacking scrum on halftime.

    Luke Whitelock 7: As renowned, nothing flashy from first-time ABs skipper, always on hand for a strong carry, and solid tackling. Lost ball in tackle close to line but a penalty saved blushes.

    ​Ardie Savea 6: Fine early turnover win which turned momentum and led to opening try, mostly well-contained and couldn't find much space to show the x-factor.

    ​Liam Squire 9: Back from sick bed in an absolute storming way. Best on the paddock, with great roaming runs and support play - rewarded with opening try of the game in left corner - mixed with a tonne of solid hits and abrasiveness round fringes. Taken off in 53rd minute, as surely Scotland test awaits him?

    Dominic Bird 6: The big lineout target, though not too much else. Did very well to lock up French maul and win turnover.

    Patrick Tuipulotu 8: Spilled opening kickoff, but improved plenty from there. Great early charge, decent link work and runs in middle. Had ball ripped when tryline beckoned, but made amends with 52nd minute score with strong carry.

    ​Jeffrey Toomaga-Allen 6: One penalty for collapsed scrum, but otherwise solid at the set-piece.

    Nathan Harris 6: Earned tighthead win on first scrum, but couple of average lineout throws - including one close to French line on halftime which was short of Whitelock and stolen by Sekou Macalou.

    Tim Perry 6: Solid scrummaging, but opposite Malik Hamadache charged out of his grasp in open play, and he had a pass intercepted off an unintended lineout win. Subbed in 57th min.

    RESERVES:

    Asafo Aumua 6: (66th min for Harris) Won crucial turnover in tandem with Hunt with three minutes to play, but bad lineout throw after. Part of huge last scrum which won against feed.

    ​Atu Moli 6: (57th min for Perry) First taste of the All Blacks, and on unfamiliar loosehead side, which ABs are keen on shifting him to. Shunted back in first scrum, but got better, including huge final push.

    ​Ofa Tu'ungafasi 5: (66th min for Toomaga-Allen) Hiding to nothing in getting run around by Macalou leading to late French try. Huge last scrum left him able to smile.

    ​Scott Barrett 6: (66th min for Tuipulotu) Showed keenness and awareness by diving on loose ruck ball a couple of times.

    Akira Ioane 8: (53rd min for Squire) First wearing of ABs jersey injected immediate desire within. Took ball immediately on entrance, then went on a brilliant run upfield but just couldn't link up. Some good flying defence too.

    ​Dillon Hunt N/R (70th min for Savea)

    Mitch Drummond N/R (70th min for Kerr-Barlow)

    Richie Mo'unga 7: (53rd min for Sopoaga) First ABs experience and quickly involved in try with a simple pass for Laumape. Fumbled a low ball but advantage was played anyway, then scrambled well a couple of times, including on rampaging Macalou.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98837289/how-the-all-blacks-players-rated-against-the-french-xv-in-lyon

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