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  • FrankF Offline
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    Hansen stated Hemopo is not being considered as a replacement lock but as (another) 6.

    Awesome!
    That's now 3 guys all from the same team competing for the same position (Squire, Frizell, and Hemopo). I am sure they'll be able to tussle it out next year with all that game time they get at 6.

    I was hoping they would see Squire as the back-up 8. But then would leave no room for the explosive Luke Whitelock.

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    #180

    @frank said in TRC squad:

    Hansen stated Hemopo is not being considered as a replacement lock but as (another) 6.

    Awesome!
    That's now 3 guys all from the same team competing for the same position (Squire, Frizell, and Hemopo). I am sure they'll be able to tussle it out next year with all that game time they get at 6.

    I was hoping they would see Squire as the back-up 8. But then would leave no room for the explosive Luke Whitelock.

    So, all Akira needs to do to make the ABs is sign with the Highlanders. Simple.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #181

    jesus h fucking christ.

    what is on this process checklist? Akira must be seriously fucking it up if he is behind 4 fucking guys from the same team in his favoured positions:
    A flat track bully;
    Captain invisible;
    A fluffybunny who never plays; and
    a guy who doesn't even play those positions.

    Add in the 2nd best openside in the country (who happens to be the best on the ball, and the best link player) being allowed to leave because the coach couldn't be fucked to call him back for a month. Too busy Steve? Doing what? Writing checklists?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #182

    @mariner4life maybe he puts his socks on before his undies?

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #183

    @taniwharugby said in TRC squad:

    @mariner4life maybe he puts his socks on before his undies?

    well, in that case...

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  • canefanC Offline
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    #184

    @nepia said in TRC squad:

    @frank said in TRC squad:

    Hansen stated Hemopo is not being considered as a replacement lock but as (another) 6.

    Awesome!
    That's now 3 guys all from the same team competing for the same position (Squire, Frizell, and Hemopo). I am sure they'll be able to tussle it out next year with all that game time they get at 6.

    I was hoping they would see Squire as the back-up 8. But then would leave no room for the explosive Luke Whitelock.

    So, all Akira needs to do to make the ABs is sign with the Highlanders. Simple.

    Nah, come to the Canes. We'll fix him! 😀

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    #185

    @canefan said in TRC squad:

    @nepia said in TRC squad:

    @frank said in TRC squad:

    Hansen stated Hemopo is not being considered as a replacement lock but as (another) 6.

    Awesome!
    That's now 3 guys all from the same team competing for the same position (Squire, Frizell, and Hemopo). I am sure they'll be able to tussle it out next year with all that game time they get at 6.

    I was hoping they would see Squire as the back-up 8. But then would leave no room for the explosive Luke Whitelock.

    So, all Akira needs to do to make the ABs is sign with the Highlanders. Simple.

    Nah, come to the Canes. We'll fix him! 😀

    But that's not a sure stepping stone to the ABs like the Highlanders ... plus, from the sounds of it they already tried that this year and NZR stopped it.

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  • MartyM Offline
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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #186

    @taniwharugby said in TRC squad:

    @duluth oh for sure, just saying maybe someone in between has let the process fall down, but given it happened numerous times now (remember those times when Henry came out and said someone woulda been picked if they hadnt gone off shore) someone at NZR needs to get over it to ensure it doesnt happen again

    For sure they do - but there's an element of self-responsibility that seems to be missing too. A guy keeps coming to training camps. He doesn't get promoted to a series squad. The assumption has to be he is consistently failing to tick the boxes he's been asked to tick. Sounds like any other profession to me, or we happy for players with no apparent self-motivation to be All Blacks?

    I genuinely hope he gets there, because he's a beast. But I'm not upset he's been left out this time.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    #187

    @nepia said in TRC squad:

    @canefan said in TRC squad:

    @nepia said in TRC squad:

    @frank said in TRC squad:

    Hansen stated Hemopo is not being considered as a replacement lock but as (another) 6.

    Awesome!
    That's now 3 guys all from the same team competing for the same position (Squire, Frizell, and Hemopo). I am sure they'll be able to tussle it out next year with all that game time they get at 6.

    I was hoping they would see Squire as the back-up 8. But then would leave no room for the explosive Luke Whitelock.

    So, all Akira needs to do to make the ABs is sign with the Highlanders. Simple.

    Nah, come to the Canes. We'll fix him! 😀

    But that's not a sure stepping stone to the ABs like the Highlanders ... plus, from the sounds of it they already tried that this year and NZR stopped it.

    Ardie made it in. Hell, we'll take them both if they like

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    #188

    Who comes in if Cane gets a knock with Todd now out of the picture?

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    replied to Unite on last edited by
    #189

    @unite said in TRC squad:

    Who comes in if Cane gets a knock with Todd now out of the picture?

    In a match day squad they'd probably go without a specialist reserve

    Who would be called up as cover? Gibson, Hunt or Lentjes?

    Gibson and Hunt were both called up last year and were competing for the 4th best openside ranking. However Lentjes passed Hunt this year at the Highlanders

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #190

    @unite Blake Gibson is the only other 7 about who has currently trained with them isnt he?

    Blues 7's; Gibson, Pryor, Taramai
    Chiefs: Cane, Karpick, ?
    HUrricanes; Ardie,
    Crusaders: Todd, ?
    Highlanders: Hunt, Lentjes, Pryor (although think he has gone ot Japan already too)

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to Marty on last edited by
    #191

    @marty said in TRC squad:

    @taniwharugby said in TRC squad:

    @duluth oh for sure, just saying maybe someone in between has let the process fall down, but given it happened numerous times now (remember those times when Henry came out and said someone woulda been picked if they hadnt gone off shore) someone at NZR needs to get over it to ensure it doesnt happen again

    For sure they do - but there's an element of self-responsibility that seems to be missing too. A guy keeps coming to training camps. He doesn't get promoted to a series squad. The assumption has to be he is consistently failing to tick the boxes he's been asked to tick. Sounds like any other profession to me, or we happy for players with no apparent self-motivation to be All Blacks?

    I genuinely hope he gets there, because he's a beast. But I'm not upset he's been left out this time.

    Except it isn't like any other job. Currently Akira's employers are the Blues (and Auckland) and clearly he's ticking all the boxes that his 'main' employer wants him to tick - and his main employer gave him their player of the year award.

    If the ABs want him to tick other boxes they need to get him playing for them (not just training with them) in that environment that is set up for him to tick those boxes. Then they'll know where he sits.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
    #192

    @duluth said in TRC squad:

    @unite said in TRC squad:

    Who comes in if Cane gets a knock with Todd now out of the picture?

    In a match day squad they'd probably go without a specialist reserve

    Who would be called up as cover? Gibson, Hunt or Lentjes?

    Gibson and Hunt were both called up last year and were competing for the 4th best openside ranking. However Lentjes passed Hunt this year at the Highlanders

    like being on the bench at the highlanders is a roadblock...

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #193

    Boshier, Evans as a 7 are other options.

    Anyone but Taramai would be my vote.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by taniwharugby
    #194

    @nepia said in TRC squad:

    Except it isn't like any other job. Currently Akira's employers are the Blues (and Auckland) and clearly he's ticking all the boxes that his 'main' employer wants him to tick - and his main employer gave him their player of the year award.
    If the ABs want him to tick other boxes they need to get him playing for them (not just training with them) in that environment that is set up for him to tick those boxes. Then they'll know where he sits.

    the other thing is, the AB coaches may have given him his checklist, but what if that doesnt fit with the Blues game plan (cos surely if they have one, it would be at odds with any normal and sane game plan anyway) and therefore the way the Blues are playing are hindering chances (given right now, playign for the Blues seems to do that anyway)

    Am sure there is more to it than all the speculation on here anyway

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #195

    @taniwharugby There's a reason the Blues have hired a new forwards coach and a new attack coach. The 'coaching' going on at the Blues this year was rubbish.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    Nepia
    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #196

    @taniwharugby said in TRC squad:

    @nepia said in TRC squad:

    Except it isn't like any other job. Currently Akira's employers are the Blues (and Auckland) and clearly he's ticking all the boxes that his 'main' employer wants him to tick - and his main employer gave him their player of the year award.
    If the ABs want him to tick other boxes they need to get him playing for them (not just training with them) in that environment that is set up for him to tick those boxes. Then they'll know where he sits.

    the other thing is, the AB coaches may have given him his checklist, but what if that doesnt fit with the Blues game plan (cos surely if they have one, it would be at odds with any normal and sane game plan anyway) and therefore the way the Blues are playing are hindering chances (given right now, playign for the Blues seems to do that anyway)

    Am sure there is more to it than all the speculation on here anyway

    Yeah, that first sentence was exactly what I was saying - clearly in too convoluted a way though.

    There may be more to it, or it may just be a preference - coaches do that sometimes as we all know. Frizell is a prime example. I doubt if you put Hansen under the gun he could justify Frizell's selection on anything other than "I think ... based on his potential ... he'll be awesome one day".

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #197

    @kiwimurph said in TRC squad:

    e Blues have hired a new forwards coach and a new attack coach. The 'coaching' going on at the Blues this year was rubbish.

    or maybe Tana told the AB coaches his game plan, so they could give Akira his work ons based on this, but in reality, Tana had no game plan other than give it to the Ioanes and cross your fingers! 😉

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    Nepia
    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #198

    @taniwharugby said in TRC squad:

    @kiwimurph said in TRC squad:

    e Blues have hired a new forwards coach and a new attack coach. The 'coaching' going on at the Blues this year was rubbish.

    or maybe Tana told the AB coaches his game plan, so they could give Akira his work ons based on this, but in reality, Tana had no game plan other than give it to the Ioanes and cross your fingers! 😉

    They would have had a positive win/loss if there was a third Ioane brother.

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