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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Chris B.
    #54

    Here's a rough shot by the numbers. I've got no great opinion on the replacement 7, so I've chucked in John Hart's pick.

    I've tended to go for people who've been there before among the 19 reinforcements, with a few exceptions for balance.

    32 MAN SQUAD

    Joe Moody
    Karl Tu'inukuafe
    Owen Franks
    Ofa Tuungafasi
    Tim Perry

    Codie Taylor
    Dane Coles
    Nathan Harris

    Samuel Whitelock
    Brodie Retallick
    Scott Barrett

    Kieran Read
    Ardie Savea
    Liam Squire
    Luke Whitelock
    Shannon Frizell
    Dillon Hunt??

    Aaron Smith
    Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
    TJ Perenara

    Beauden Barrett
    Richie Mo'unga
    Damian McKenzie

    Anton Lienert-Brown
    Jack Goodhue
    Ryan Crotty
    Sonny Bill Williams

    Ben Smith
    Jordie Barrett
    Rieko Ioane
    Nehe Milner-Skudder
    Waisake Naholo

    TEAM FOR JAPAN (INCLUDING 10 FROM ABOVE)

    Tim Perry
    Dane Coles
    Nepo Laulala
    Luke Romano
    Patrick Tuipolotu
    Shannon Frizell
    Dillon Hunt
    Luke Whitelock
    Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
    Richie Mo'unga
    George Bridge
    Ngani Laumape
    Anton Lienert-Brown
    Nehe Milner-Skudder
    Jordie Barrett

    Liam Coltman
    Angus Ta'avao
    Alex Hodgman??
    Jackson Hemopo
    Akira Ioane
    Bryn Hall
    Otere Black
    Matt Proctor

    PLUS ANOTHER SIX
    Asafo Aumua
    Jeff Toomaga-Allen
    Vaia Fifita
    Brad Weber
    Ben Lam
    David Havili

    Edit: And a slight shuffle, because I've got a loose forward too many.

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    @chris-b you’d have Otere Black who has been pretty average after having a year off rugby

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    @footy01 To be honest I only saw him come off the bench against Ta$man and he looked pretty sharp.

    Any of our next options are a fair way from international quality IMO. And if I'd picked Mitch Hunt I'd be accused of bias! 🙂

    In all honesty, if we had a run like 2011 at RWC and lost a couple of Beauden, DMac and Richie, I'd be inclined to break our own rules and call up Sopoaga, Cruden or Slade.

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    #57

    @footy01 Who are the other options with Super Rugby experience? Hunt, Perofeta, Garden-Bachop, Gatland, and Falcon?

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    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @footy01 To be honest I only saw him come off the bench against Ta$man and he looked pretty sharp.

    Any of our next options are a fair way from international quality IMO. And if I'd picked Mitch Hunt I'd be accused of bias! 🙂

    In all honesty, if we had a run like 2011 at RWC and lost a couple of Beauden, DMac and Richie, I'd be inclined to break our own rules and call up Sopoaga, Cruden or Slade.

    IS DAGG GOING OVERSEAS?????

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    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #59

    @bones To quote the guy from The Castle - "Tell him he's dreaming!"

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    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones To quote the guy from The Castle - "Tell him he's dreaming!"

    He wouldn't have said that if the Cortina, Camira, Torana and Commodore were all broken down.

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    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @footy01 To be honest I only saw him come off the bench against Ta$man and he looked pretty sharp.

    Any of our next options are a fair way from international quality IMO. And if I'd picked Mitch Hunt I'd be accused of bias! 🙂

    In all honesty, if we had a run like 2011 at RWC and lost a couple of Beauden, DMac and Richie, I'd be inclined to break our own rules and call up Sopoaga, Cruden or Slade.

    IS DAGG GOING OVERSEAS?????

    If Dagg won us a WC at 10 then I think the Fern would be complete, no need for any further threads.

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    @tim I couldn’t probably see Perofeta as the only one who could be an all black in that group. In a good team, going forward , he would be awesome

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    *could

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    @no-quarter said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @footy01 To be honest I only saw him come off the bench against Ta$man and he looked pretty sharp.

    Any of our next options are a fair way from international quality IMO. And if I'd picked Mitch Hunt I'd be accused of bias! 🙂

    In all honesty, if we had a run like 2011 at RWC and lost a couple of Beauden, DMac and Richie, I'd be inclined to break our own rules and call up Sopoaga, Cruden or Slade.

    IS DAGG GOING OVERSEAS?????

    If Dagg won us a WC at 10 then I think the Fern would be complete, no need for any further threads.

    I think we could still debate how great Charlie Ngatai might have been

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    Possible bolters ?

    Hooker : Makalio. He's on fire. I think his lack of speed is not a problem for the AB game. Remember the SA vs AB last saturday : the AB spent the last 10 minutes driving with their forwards and did not take high risks with their backline. So Makalio could fit in very well in similar circumstances.

    Props : I don't see any new cap here as there are a sufficient number of players. Maybe Lomax ?

    Locks : Pari Pari Parkinson as an apprentice ? He is the one with the best potential and could be the next Retallick.

    Blind side flankers : None

    Open side flankers : Dalton Papali'i.

    Utility loose forward : Gareth Evans.

    Halfbacks : Drummond is playing very well but will they bring 4 halfbacks ?

    1st Fives : None

    2nd Fives : Havili (can he be considered a bolter ?)

    Centres : Thompson, Proctor, Ennor, Faddes ... None of them is really convincing.

    Wings : this is a position where the AB need new names => Alaimalo, maybe Lam

    Full backs : Jordan as an apprentice. He's an outstanding talent. Maybe the next AB fullback when B. Smith retires.

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    @crucial said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @no-quarter said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @footy01 To be honest I only saw him come off the bench against Ta$man and he looked pretty sharp.

    Any of our next options are a fair way from international quality IMO. And if I'd picked Mitch Hunt I'd be accused of bias! 🙂

    In all honesty, if we had a run like 2011 at RWC and lost a couple of Beauden, DMac and Richie, I'd be inclined to break our own rules and call up Sopoaga, Cruden or Slade.

    IS DAGG GOING OVERSEAS?????

    If Dagg won us a WC at 10 then I think the Fern would be complete, no need for any further threads.

    I think we could still debate how great Charlie Ngatai might have been

    Oooooooooo......OOOOOO!!!! Can We?!?!?!?!

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    @mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @crucial said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @no-quarter said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @footy01 To be honest I only saw him come off the bench against Ta$man and he looked pretty sharp.

    Any of our next options are a fair way from international quality IMO. And if I'd picked Mitch Hunt I'd be accused of bias! 🙂

    In all honesty, if we had a run like 2011 at RWC and lost a couple of Beauden, DMac and Richie, I'd be inclined to break our own rules and call up Sopoaga, Cruden or Slade.

    IS DAGG GOING OVERSEAS?????

    If Dagg won us a WC at 10 then I think the Fern would be complete, no need for any further threads.

    I think we could still debate how great Charlie Ngatai might have been

    Oooooooooo......OOOOOO!!!! Can We?!?!?!?!

    Feel free my friend. The stage is yours.

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    @frank said in AB EOYT 2018:

    51 players.
    Unlucky Akira, you were the 52nd.
    Honest mate.

    H's attached to the squad for training.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial Are you suggesting Ofa gets a run at LH? BTW anyone heard anything regarding Hames, who was awesome on last year's EOYT?

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    replied to pakman on last edited by Crucial
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    @pakman said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @crucial Are you suggesting Ofa gets a run at LH?

    Only if the powers that be see value in that with an eye to RWC.
    It is handy in a RWC squad to have a prop that plays both sides (Ben Franks) especially given a possible hard 3 game finals run (at least a hard 2 games).

    Usually 5 Props. 2 specialists each side plus one versatile.

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    @pakman Hames is out all year, some sort of concussion injury. As is his right details are not being made public.

    Also "Hames is Hames, he likes to do things his way," said Hansen.
    "I don't know that he helps his progress by wanting to do it the way he wants to do it."

    Maybe hames is some sort of alternative therapy believer, or traditional medicine, or aromatherapy. So I don't think we'll see him for a while!

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by Crucial
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    @machpants said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @pakman Hames is out all year, some sort of concussion injury. As is his right details are not being made public.

    Also "Hames is Hames, he likes to do things his way," said Hansen.
    "I don't know that he helps his progress by wanting to do it the way he wants to do it."

    Maybe hames is some sort of alternative therapy believer, or traditional medicine, or aromatherapy. So I don't think we'll see him for a while!

    According to his instagram he has been doing a keto diet to help with symptoms. Despite whether you think that is woo or not, it indicates that he has symptoms.

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    Yeah diet won't make a blind bit of difference I imagine,but at least if he believes it may well help. Placebo is a medical fact!

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