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    @MN5 said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @Crucial said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @KiwiMurph said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    Hansen's selection policy of loose forwards in the 2016-2019 4 year period certainly deserves some scrutiny.

    Seemingly tried everyone under the sun (with a couple of notable exceptions) and never landed on a settled combination.

    He knew his 7 and 8. Any diversion from them was due to injury.
    6 was a problem because anyone that raised their hand then didn’t raise it again when given a shot. We were just in a slump with 6s. Some good ones coming through but not quick enough.
    If you wanted a consistent loose trio who was going to be your 6?

    What's Liam Squire up to ?

    True. He was really the first choice for a while except he kept breaking. The other side of that was that others had to get game time to understudy.
    It was his choice to remove himself from contention.

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    Squire was highly overrated. He was made to look good against the slumping Wallabies/Boks in 16/17 but when the going got tough he went missing. Flat track bully.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    Squire was highly overrated. He was made to look good against the slumping Wallabies/Boks in 16/17 but when the going got tough he went missing. Flat track bully.

    playing the Aussies 3 times a year wasn't great for getting a real measure of players

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    Hansen selected Fifita regularly and had the nerve to call Akira lazy. Wish Shag had retired/resigned in 2017 as originally planned.

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    @akan004 said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    Hansen selected Fifita regularly and had the nerve to call Akira lazy.

    BOOM.

    A glaring contradiction.

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    Squire put in numerous shoddy defensive shifts for the ABs too. The loss in Brisbane comes to mind. Ludicrously overrated player. Played some real shockers against the Crusaders in playoffs, where he was more interested in lining up late shoulder charges than tackling forwards.

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    @akan004 said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    Hansen selected Fifita regularly and had the nerve to call Akira lazy. Wish Shag had retired/resigned in 2017 as originally planned.

    Duluth needs to let us like posts more than once. That sums up the issue perfectly.

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    Fifita is not having a great SRA season (wasn't great pre-covid either). Frizell on the other hand, is really putting his hand up for that 6 jersey.

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    @mariner4life said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @KiwiMurph said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    Squire was highly overrated. He was made to look good against the slumping Wallabies/Boks in 16/17 but when the going got tough he went missing. Flat track bully.

    playing the Aussies 3 times a year wasn't great for getting a real measure of players

    particularly forwards

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    Back on Akira Iaone, it was very entertaining to watch the endless times he ran straight at, over, through Aaron Smith from the back of the scrum - credit to Smith for doing his best to stop him.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    Squire was highly overrated. He was made to look good against the slumping Wallabies/Boks in 16/17 but when the going got tough he went missing. Flat track bully.

    Don't forget that his selection was a part in how we lost Luatua.

    https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-squad-named-for-2016-steinlager-series/

    https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-squad-named-for-2016-investec-rugby-championship

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/82673550/five-unlucky-all-black-omissions

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/89377167/all-blacks-flanker-steven-luatua-signs-for-english-club-bristol

    When you look at how those selections turned out, you really realize what at a fucking mess they created by imposing non-selections on key players. What the fuck did they expect from him after he signed for two years in 2015? I'm still fucking fuming about it.

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    Akira Ioane should have been selected in 2017 and 2018 ahead of Liam Squire, Luke Whitelock and Vaea Fifita. I think given the right coaching he could have been world-class at the 2019 RWC.

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    LOL, is this the new Akira bandwagon thread?

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    @Stargazer said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    LOL, is this the new Akira bandwagon thread?

    Do you disagree with @sparky? I mean, it's not like any of the other 6's did anything meaningful. Akira had to cop some, but Hansen doesn't escape the online blame we're dishing out

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    @Stargazer If he played for Hawke's Bay or the Crusaders you'd be all over him too.

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    @African-Monkey TBF, if he was playing for the Crusaders in that period, I'd say his game would have been better utilised and not run into the ground

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    @Kirwan said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    But anyway, new coaches for the Blues and ABs and he's back to his 2018 form, maybe even better.

    There is no maybe. He is a hugely improved player.

    It's fairly straight forward eh - while there's lots of people that insist he should've been selected - there's also lots of people that disagree or just didn't care that he wasn't selected as he wasn't quite the superstar that people saw.

    He's certainly earned his spot now though and it really would be a travesty if he isn't selected this time. You can actually see he's in a much better place mentally and is all about doing his job - when was the last time he was the cause of any proper niggle (Parete doesn't count).

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    @Bones said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @Kirwan said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    But anyway, new coaches for the Blues and ABs and he's back to his 2018 form, maybe even better.

    There is no maybe. He is a hugely improved player.

    It's fairly straight forward eh - while there's lots of people that insist he should've been selected - there's also lots of people that disagree or just didn't care that he wasn't selected as he wasn't quite the superstar that people saw.

    He's certainly earned his spot now though and it really would be a travesty if he isn't selected this time. You can actually see he's in a much better place mentally and is all about doing his job - when was the last time he was the cause of any proper niggle (Parete doesn't count).

    To me he’s playing pretty much the same as two years ago, just with less 40m trys.

    Always was this good defensively, hardly misses a tackle, usually at the top of tackle counts. Big work rate.

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    @Kirwan said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @Bones said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @Kirwan said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    But anyway, new coaches for the Blues and ABs and he's back to his 2018 form, maybe even better.

    There is no maybe. He is a hugely improved player.

    It's fairly straight forward eh - while there's lots of people that insist he should've been selected - there's also lots of people that disagree or just didn't care that he wasn't selected as he wasn't quite the superstar that people saw.

    He's certainly earned his spot now though and it really would be a travesty if he isn't selected this time. You can actually see he's in a much better place mentally and is all about doing his job - when was the last time he was the cause of any proper niggle (Parete doesn't count).

    To me he’s playing pretty much the same as two years ago, just with less 40m trys.

    Always was this good defensively, hardly misses a tackle, usually at the top of tackle counts. Big work rate.

    Yes and when Lomax played for the Highlanders he was the best tighthead in the country 🙂

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    @KiwiPie said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    Back on Akira Iaone, it was very entertaining to watch the endless times he ran straight at, over, through Aaron Smith from the back of the scrum - credit to Smith for doing his best to stop him.

    It made me laugh when the commentator said something like "Well done, Aaron Smith, for holding on there." When in fact Akira had sent Nugget flying.

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