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@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
incredible test career. the guy whose personality and attitude drove India from a talented team to a team who could go to Australia and win. Absolutely beautiful player to watch as well.
For sure, at his peak he was top of the Fab 4.
but fell away badly in his last few years, only averaged 30 for the last 5 years. During his peak he was averaging double that. What stood him out was his form in both England and OZ during that time
He scored 6 x double tons in the period of 18 months then as well, only Bradman did better.For me though he will go down as a better ODI batsman (probably the best of all time)
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best ODI player of all time. Best multi format player of all time. His peak at test level was as good as anyone.
But his test career in terms of what he means to India is more than numbers.
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@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
best ODI player of all time. Best multi format player of all time. His peak at test level was as good as anyone.
But his test career in terms of what he means to India is more than numbers.
He had an Aussie attitude about him, which is why he rubbed them the wrong way so much.
its a shame his test record fell away as badly as it did, he could have finished with a 50+ average in all 3 International formats (T20I's average his dropped to 48 but still..)
51 ODI centuries in just 290 innings is insane.
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A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
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@Virgil said in Other Cricket:
@NTA said in Other Cricket:
My thoughts on Kohli: we hated him because he was so much like us...
Now you know why we hate your guys.
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Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold. Some of those knocks he played in Aus, while his teammates folded like wet paper as usual, were simply incredible. So despite his numbers (which are still fucking excellent to be fair), in a close match he was the wicket you wanted the most in the Indian lineup.
He was also an absolute joy to watch bat, his cover drives were something else.
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@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
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@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
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@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.
…….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
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@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
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@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
But in saying that two of the better batsmen to have graced the game this century.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
Sure Kohli played hard and took no prisoners but cared for people off the field,Warner cares for himself at all costs to others.
But I am giving my opinon of what I see. I understand you see what you have seen and that forms your opinion. -
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
Sure Kohli played hard and took no prisoners but cared for people off the field,Warner cares for himself at all costs to others.
But I am giving my opinon of what I see. I understand you see what you have seen and that forms your opinion.The fern wouldn't see much traffic if this didn't happen
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
Sure Kohli played hard and took no prisoners but cared for people off the field,Warner cares for himself at all costs to others.
But I am giving my opinon of what I see. I understand you see what you have seen and that forms your opinion.The fern wouldn't see much traffic if this didn't happen
100 per cent mate life is what we see and we all see different things for many different reasons,It makes the Fern and the people on here interesting.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.
…….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.
Yeah - history won't record how The Don would have gone if he'd played another 498 international matches.
