Electric Vehicles
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@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
@nostrildamus Do you work for KIA?
it's all good, yes badge snobbery is dead in the general populations - especially by reviewers. No need to try and fool the wife, it is what it is!
To be clear, the plastic doesn't bother me that much, it's just the only place I think it looks cheap & I suspect it could look a complete mess after a 3-4 year ownership.
Nope never worked for car companies but have worked with car designers (one worked with Hyundai, one with Beemers, one with Ford but he wasn't exactly a designer).
I had to rent cheap Kias and Hyundai some years ago and thought they were trash.
I changed my mind after speaking to a Toyota guy who warned me Hyundai was a serious threat to Toyota. I'm not rich so I tend to own Japanese cars myself (usually cheaper to maintain and reliable on this side of the world IMO).
The only electric car I'd be averse to buying is actually a Tesla, technical pioneer, but seems to have a computer answer for everything, I'd like something a little less Knight Rider. -
@bayimports said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
Polestar 2 landing here in Australia for under $60k apparently.
if it hits the market here under 60k, Im going to suggest they might have a lot of success and may force the existing EV brands into re thinking their entry price
Trouble is you really pay for the extra packages. But I'd still test drive it.
Edit: The recent Volvo designs appeal to me for the price (yeah I know they/Polestar are owned by the Chinese but I think they are designed out of Sweden). The Ioniq 5 and EV6 are too big for the wife and I haven't tested either.
I wish BMW had focussed more on EVs, their little cars had some neat features and happy owners.
But I'll wait for the Subaru as well, if it has Toyota reliability and economy (efficiency) but Subaru styling I'll be interested. Plus it has decent wheel clearance for the crap roads and objects I have to drive through. -
@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
Tesla Model 3.
It’s the next generation of driving. The tech in it is so far ahead of the rest. It’s quite the car, long way ahead of the last one I drove. But, the list of things I don’t like is quite long.
You need a head up display. Absurd to look left to see speed. The fit / finish of the car is poor. There is a lot of tech for tech sake - buttons to open doors etc. Having to go through an iPad to do anything gets annoying really quick. But worst of all, both my wife and I felt really ill. I imagine the kids in the back will be worse.
So in summary, in a lot of ways it’s the best car in the world. But in others it’s the complete opposite.
I love these posts btw. Having to use that iPad must be fucking frustrating - fuck navigating that to turn the fan up or down, or the temp up or down.
My neighbour has just got one & is three days in. He completely agrees with me on all the negatives and says right now, he wish he hadn't got one. I suspect though that once he's familiar with the screen and running it, he'll love it. Although I think he'll never get used to the speedo not being right in front - he pointed out something I hadn't noticed. He needs glasses for reading (getting older ...) and said that glancing down to see the speed has always been fine, but glancing right means he's out of focus. So it takes him time.
He's got 3 kids so I asked him if he'd considered the Model X. He hadn't as his mate has one and stuff keeps falling off it ...
If he can afford a tesla he can afford glasses that are normal on top and have reading lense strength built in the bottom.
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@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
Kia EV6 - Really disappointed. The fit and finish on the car really is superb. The infotainment looks a lot cheaper than others, which is to be expected given the price. But it's still a lot to pay for a Kia. But the drive. Oh man. Completely gutlesss. Doing 60mph on the A3, I floored it to get it up to 75ish and basically nothing happened. It's really really slow. You can't overtake anything in it. Absolutely no idea how they've managed to do that.
Great reviews - thanks.
I looked at the e-Niro and found it anything but gutless but hated the interior - just bland and plasticky. Stopped looking as I couldn't find anything which really suited my needs, and hoped the EV6 or it's Hyundai stablemate would fit the bill as there's an AWD version. Bit of a bugger if it's gutless.
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@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
Two more electric cars driven.
Mercedes EQC - it's a lovely place to be, beautifully made car with some really nice tech. But I think they are aiming it at people a little older than me. Very soft & perhaps just a little bit boring ....
Kia EV6 - Really disappointed. The fit and finish on the car really is superb. The infotainment looks a lot cheaper than others, which is to be expected given the price. But it's still a lot to pay for a Kia. But the drive. Oh man. Completely gutlesss. Doing 60mph on the A3, I floored it to get it up to 75ish and basically nothing happened. It's really really slow. You can't overtake anything in it. Absolutely no idea how they've managed to do that.
Can now sleep well knowing we've ordered the right car.
That is interesting, the reviews I read of its Hyundai equivalent noted it drove like a fridge ie you can really feel the weight, but did not mention acceleration.
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I'm hoping that they'll bring out an e-power X-trail.
The Kicks is a bit small and we don't want a van, but I like the technology.
I want them to add a few things though, such as electric seats. I never thought I would require it, but as we only have one car, I want to push one button and have my car set itself up for me. I've got very used to in our current car.
NB: Looks like the new Outlander PHEV is pretty cool, 7 seats, very well kitted out, and still 20-25000 cheaper than the equivalent X3. Once they lose the new car sheen, I could see us going for one of those as they'll retail for about 55K but be available used with 10K kms for 45K within a year.
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@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
Mustang E-Mach.
Worst by a country mile. Absolutely terrible car.
Ok, I didn’t drive it. Salesman wasn’t there when I turned up for my booking … and the branch head told me they didn’t have one anyway ….
Think Ford Guildford …. Thing again
Hold on. Ford sucks or the car sucks? Did you actually see one?
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@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
Mustang E-Mach.
Worst by a country mile. Absolutely terrible car.
Ok, I didn’t drive it. Salesman wasn’t there when I turned up for my booking … and the branch head told me they didn’t have one anyway ….
Think Ford Guildford …. Thing again
Hold on. Ford sucks or the car sucks? Did you actually see one?
3pm Thursday I arranged to meet Levi (salesman) to drive the E Mach.
I turned up at 3pm. Levi not there. So I asked for somebody else to help. The other person said they didn’t have an e Mach to drive ….
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So the wife wants an EV. Happy to get something smaller to complement the 7 seater SUV for family trips, so range not a huge issue.
So little to choose from in Oz.
Seems to be the MG only under 50k, the Leaf and the IONIC under 60k, the Mona, Nero or MX30 to 75k then the Tesla S, Merc, Volvo all over 80k
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
So the wife wants an EV. Happy to get something smaller to complement the 7 seater SUV for family trips, so range not a huge issue.
So little to choose from in Oz.
Seems to be the MG only under 50k, the Leaf and the IONIC under 60k, the Mona, Nero or MX30 to 75k then the Tesla S, Merc, Volvo all over 80k
I'm also in the same position, I am waiting for the BYD Yuan Plus which is advertised as being under 40k AUD and is very similar to a Mazda CX5. Appears the long range has 510km which is nice. I think the price and specs etc are up on the website next month. Not many reviews yet or info but here is a video in chinese showing it.
And this much cheaper small car which is likely to be under 35k
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
So the wife wants an EV. Happy to get something smaller to complement the 7 seater SUV for family trips, so range not a huge issue.
So little to choose from in Oz.
Seems to be the MG only under 50k, the Leaf and the IONIC under 60k, the Mona, Nero or MX30 to 75k then the Tesla S, Merc, Volvo all over 80k
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@antipodean cheers for that. Still looks like not much on offer until H2 2022? And the lack of a 2nd hand market keeps the prices sky high
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