Electric Vehicles
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@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
@dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:
@antipodean I think he assumed you meant a PHEV
I'm not swayed either way. I think @NTA and I may be agreeing but talking cross purposes. I agree wholeheartedly that if you're a suburban dweller an EV makes eminently more sense given the average commute is only 30-40km. My suggestion for towing things is to get something designed for the task.
like a self-powered camping trailer?
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@nostrildamus heavy caravan tho.
It's like the old "flying hippo" conundrum: to have big enough wings, you need more muscle mass, which means bigger wings, and therefore more muscle mass, and therefore....
A bird can fly due to low bone density.
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Sooooo.
So. Many. Posts.
I have a SUV petrol Mazda CX9 that'll last for another 10yrs easy as a people carrier. When we camp, there's no caravan or crazy off road stuff.
We desperately need to replace our 2nd car, and would like to go electric. City driving only. Mazda will suffice for weekend trips. Needs to be big enough to ferry 3 kids around, but can probably stick with 5 seats. Don't want to wait 6 months.
WhadddoIget???
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@voodoo age of kids? By "three kids" do you mean in the back or is one of them old/tall enough for front seat?
13, 11, 8 - all front seat riders when we let them!
Budget is everything.
Hyundai ioniq is my initial thought if you want lower end of spectrum. Kia ev6 stands out too but I personally really didn’t like it.
Nissan Leaf if you have zero interest in street cred and are very budget conscious.
Mustang e Mach looks good shout too.
Germans snd Tesla different price point so if give an idea of cost, happy to give thoughts.
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@voodoo age of kids? By "three kids" do you mean in the back or is one of them old/tall enough for front seat?
13, 11, 8 - all front seat riders when we let them!
You could get away with
MG ZS EV
Hyundai Kona or Ioniq
Nissan Leaf
Kia eniro
Mazda mx30 e35None of them are cheaper than a brand new petrol i30 or cerato, but they're decent 2nd cars and will have resale value.
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I have the opposite issue to Voodoo in that I have 3 kids and our current family wagon desperately needs replacing, ideally with a 7 seater.
We want to go electric but options are really thin on the ground and ultimately the car is not the place we want to sink all our cash (but thinking it is worth spending a bit this time as it will have to live through our monster at 7, 3 and 10 months for a long time)
Hybrid has more options and I do like the Volvo XC90 which we would have to get a 2 - 3 year old version.
Frustrating though as we change cars irregularly and were trying to hold out until electric was more ubiquitous with better options but the current wagon is really struggling.
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@gt12 the strangeness of the human mind. A time saving piece of amazingly engineered kit that relies on the reversing ability of drivers.
Process takes 3 minutes, after 10 minutes trying to line the car up properly(judging by th drivers at my local supermarket)
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@crucial said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 the strangeness of the human mind. A time saving piece of amazingly engineered kit that relies on the reversing ability of drivers.
Process takes 3 minutes, after 10 minutes trying to line the car up properly(judging by th drivers at my local supermarket)
Why not drive through?You think that would be better? You've obviously not seen the saddos trying to get their car through the carwash at our local BP. The other week someone drove their offside wheels up onto the guide rails at such a speed she tipped her car to 45 degrees, resting against the brush units and trapped herself inside.
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@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
@crucial said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 the strangeness of the human mind. A time saving piece of amazingly engineered kit that relies on the reversing ability of drivers.
Process takes 3 minutes, after 10 minutes trying to line the car up properly(judging by th drivers at my local supermarket)
Why not drive through?You think that would be better? You've obviously not seen the saddos trying to get their car through the carwash at our local BP. The other week someone drove their offside wheels up onto the guide rails at such a speed she tipped her car to 45 degrees, resting against the brush units and trapped herself inside.
You have to wonder how some people get their licence. Spatial awareness is zero with some drivers.
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@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
Did you watch the video?
The cars reverse in automatically. I agree that drive through makes more sense but could be harder to get locations (especially in cramped spaces such as Japan).
Doesn’t look like they reverse in automatically. In he first car you can see the driver spinning the steering wheel.
It does look like the machine aligns the car after though.Pretty cool gadget though. Obviously manufacturers would have to design their vehicles as some kind of standard.
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@crucial said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
Did you watch the video?
The cars reverse in automatically. I agree that drive through makes more sense but could be harder to get locations (especially in cramped spaces such as Japan).
Doesn’t look like they reverse in automatically. In he first car you can see the driver spinning the steering wheel.
It does look like the machine aligns the car after though.Pretty cool gadget though. Obviously manufacturers would have to design their vehicles as some kind of standard.
At 32 second mark, it literally says 'automatic parking for battery swapping has started' so although we can see the wheel spinning her hands may not be on it.
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@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 while a good idea, I can only imagine the wear and tear, engineered tolerances that would turn that into a massive irritant for me. Squeaks and rattles drive me insane.
That's my my concern too but I'm still a big fan of this model for places like Japan where there is elevator style parking - we could charge at our current place, but at our old place, it would be impossible.
I also imagine that within a few years we'll be using cars like a nespresso machine anyway (a recurring revenue model would boost car companies stock prices immediately). In such a case, I imagine you could just take it back and get a non-squeeky one.
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@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 If I moved to Amami, I wouldn't have range anxiety anyway.
My wife just got a new job, literally working beside Tokyo station, so my dreams of moving to Okinawa are on hold again.