My Turn ... Running Down A Dream
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Long time listener, first time caller ..
Running. The forum seems divisive on it, especially those about 40 as its' not so good for your joints etc. This well may all be true, but reality is that I HATE exercising. Capitalised to get my point across. But above exercising, I FUCKING HATE gyms. So what do you do?
Well, I run. I wouldn't say I love it, but I get through it, and more often than not, I feel much better for it. So where are we at? Well, I'm 41, I've run a few half marathons, try to do at least 25k p/week across 3-4 runs and do fuck all else. Anything else I try, I do it for about a month, then it gets dropped by the way side. Swimming, cycling, circuits, personal training etc. All gone to shit. So thats where I'm at.
Anyway, I've decided it's time to up my game. Marathon time. We are looking at 2020, I'll see if I can get into London mara, but if not, will need to try a more regional one. The purpose of this thread, is to "blog" results. I lost a lot of weight 3 years ago on a program, and blogging was one of the key aspects to keep motivated. So, here we go.
Starting base isn't too bad. Ran a half mara two weeks at at 1:58:17. At current weight of around 93kg (height of 177cm) I'm fat, and thats what needs to change. When I finished the run, I felt fine fitness wise, the odd ache / pain in the legs. But the joints were the weak points. So the weight has to go. To give some context, my last half mara was 2017, when I was 89 kg (heathrow injection) which I ran at the same pace. So I'm arguably fitter if I can run at the same pace.
as I've got a year, I've got plenty of time to try different things, build myself up, and lose weight properly. And of course, blow out every now and again. My aim is to be circa 80kg for (as yet unknown) race day. That's a long way from here, but so is race day (probably around a year). This means 1kg a month average weight loss.
Current plan is 2-3 mid week runs (dependent on recovery from weeks) of around 6-7km. One will be interval training (run til your fucked, jog recover. Repeat a few times) and then 1-2 runs at steady, fast pace. Weekends alternate long runs (start at 16k build upt) and medium, faster rruns (start at 10k, build up slower). I took a week off post half, so last few days have been (distance, time, pace (time/km):
Mon: 6k, 35:22, 5:52/km
Wed: 10k, 54:17, 5:25
Fri: 6k, 31:59, 5:18
Sun: 6k, 32:32, 5:14
Mon: 6k, 34:04, 5:38So a bit of variability depending on how feeling /terrain / time of day etc. Rest of this week plan is
Wed: interval
Fri: 6k
Weekend: 16kSo here goes nothing ....
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@mooshld said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
Way to go. I will be following your along for the ride.
As someone who has run a half at 106Kg and 76Kg I can tell you this. If you have been running a while, the easiest gains in speed you will ever make are losing weight.
Good luck
Cheers. I saw your similar thread starter as well and will be following.
Ultimately it's (as it always is) about finding the right balance.
Out of interest, what were your 106kg / 76kg times?
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106 was 2:06
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Hold on. I'm 1cm shorter than you and 12kg heavier... umm I'm big boned!!
Dude you might not love running but you've done half marathons and tick over some decent km's per week. At worst I'd say you have mild apathy for it ha ha.
During the times I have been running fit and haven't had knee issues it has been awesome. There is something really enjoyable about being out and about under your own steam. Very cool to have @mooshld providing insight into how weight loss can help with speed increases (as in holy shit bro!!)
I do give non/anti-gym folks a bit of jip about not finding the right combo of training, or not investing enough time to get it a genuine go. But ultimately you've got to find something you are either engaged with or can make yourself do, otherwise you won't keep it up.
Look forward to hearing about your progress @MajorRage
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@mooshld said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
106 was 2:06
76 was 1:34both of those times are pretty fucking good, the fastest is really fucking good
overachiever
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@mooshld said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
106 was 2:06
76 was 1:34That second time is insane.
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I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.
I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.
So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.
After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one
Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.
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@canefan said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@gt12 Kids are not very good for training
I used to use mine as weights back in the day. Can be great for weighted push-ups and military presses. Squats as well. Too big now though....
As an aside, don't ever take that time for granted. It goes so quick and they'll soon be big smelly teens complaining about morning wood. -
All good advice chaps, I know weight is the biggest issue, it’s also the hardest thing to deal with!
One thing I’m interested in is what you should do in a run if you are either in the zone or not. Some runs I’m absolutely on it and will occasionally push myself further. Others I’m not at all but push myself to keep going. So the question is ... injuries aside, should you stick to a plan like glue, or deviate according to how you feel?
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@gt12 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.
I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.
So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.
After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one
Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.
If I was still in HK, for sure.
Japan health checks are insane. Yet, I think they are the healthiest people alive ... so maybe something in it.
189cm and 86 kg is hardly bad tho!!
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@canefan said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@gt12 Kids are not very good for training
I used to use mine as weights back in the day. Can be great for weighted push-ups and military presses. Squats as well. Too big now though....
As an aside, don't ever take that time for granted. It goes so quick and they'll soon be big smelly teens complaining about morning wood.I'm really hoping you have boys.
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@Catogrande said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@canefan said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@gt12 Kids are not very good for training
I used to use mine as weights back in the day. Can be great for weighted push-ups and military presses. Squats as well. Too big now though....
As an aside, don't ever take that time for granted. It goes so quick and they'll soon be big smelly teens complaining about morning wood.I'm really hoping you have boys.
Well they were assigned that gender at birth.
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@MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@gt12 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.
I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.
So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.
After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one
Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.
If I was still in HK, for sure.
Japan health checks are insane. Yet, I think they are the healthiest people alive ... so maybe something in it.
189cm and 86 kg is hardly bad tho!!
Thats basically me minus 12-14kg and everyone knows I'm a fucken unit so pay that shit no mind.
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@MN5 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@gt12 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.
I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.
So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.
After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one
Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.
If I was still in HK, for sure.
Japan health checks are insane. Yet, I think they are the healthiest people alive ... so maybe something in it.
189cm and 86 kg is hardly bad tho!!
Thats basically me minus 12-14kg and everyone knows I'm a fucken unit so pay that shit no mind.
Rather convoluted way to tell the forum that you are 189cm in height.
Well done on being tall?
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@MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@MN5 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@gt12 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
I followed at @mooshld advice a couple of years ago after reading his journal on here and it worked a treat - focused on running lots of miles and eating healthier to achieve weight loss. I went from a 27 minute 5k at 92kgs to - only one time though - a sub 20 minute 5k at 79 kgs.
I had been holding steady at 82 kgs for the last year or so, running three - four times a week, which doesn’t get me in trouble at work for being too fat (yearly checks start indicating metabolic syndrome for me above this - btw I’m 189cm tall - don’t get me started about Japan). However, since the boy was born, I’ve blown out to 86 and am only running once or twice a week.
So this thread is nice - it gives me some motivation to think about how crap I’ve been and to get back out there again. I may occasionally highjack it if I get motivated enough to post any updates.
After my stroke, my doctor isn’t so keen on me doing full marathons, but I may even look around for a half. If anyone wants to come to JP for a half, let me know and I’ll find one
Enjoy it @MajorRage and do try to consider the weight steps - I found them brilliant.
If I was still in HK, for sure.
Japan health checks are insane. Yet, I think they are the healthiest people alive ... so maybe something in it.
189cm and 86 kg is hardly bad tho!!
Thats basically me minus 12-14kg and everyone knows I'm a fucken unit so pay that shit no mind.
Rather convoluted way to tell the forum that you are 189cm in height.
Well done on being tall?
190cm but who's counting.....
