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    • Paekakboyz
      Paekakboyz last edited by Duluth

      Don't think we have a dedicated thread for the WC - pretty sure the team is announced today.

      A few of our guys will be feeling flush after that payout for finishing 2nd in Test rankings!

      World Cup is close guys - fuck yeah!!

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      • NTA
        NTA last edited by NTA

        KayoSports has all games apparently. This is the best $25/month I've spent, even on third world internet.

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        • mariner4life
          mariner4life last edited by

          Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.

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          • Paekakboyz
            Paekakboyz @mariner4life last edited by

            @mariner4life how high you think Davey will jump?? Into low orbit?

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            • Paekakboyz
              Paekakboyz @Paekakboyz last edited by

              Ok, I was a day early. Squad named tomorrow.

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12218343

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              • rotated
                rotated last edited by

                Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.

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                  Virgil @rotated last edited by

                  @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                  Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.

                  Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
                  Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..)

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                  • Paekakboyz
                    Paekakboyz @Virgil last edited by

                    @Virgil probably will be able to get on the piss with Southee!! Kyle Mills was the non-playing squad member in 2015 - not sure if he was the only one?

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                    • Sneakdefreak
                      Sneakdefreak last edited by Sneakdefreak

                      Hearing on Radio Sport, sounds like Kane wasn't a fan of Stead's boy Astle and might have used the captain's call in picking Sodhi.

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                      • Sneakdefreak
                        Sneakdefreak @Paekakboyz last edited by

                        @Paekakboyz said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                        @Virgil probably will be able to get on the piss with Southee!! Kyle Mills was the non-playing squad member in 2015 - not sure if he was the only one?

                        Tom Latham didn't play as well (unless he got a run against Afghanistan).

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                        • Paekakboyz
                          Paekakboyz @Sneakdefreak last edited by

                          @Sneakdefreak ah, that is interesting and would make sense for any last minute changes in selection. I don't have anything against Astle, but being better at fielding and batting shouldn't have been the focus when picking our second spinner imo.

                          Not sure what the rationale is around Blundell if he has actually been included.

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                          • Sneakdefreak
                            Sneakdefreak @Paekakboyz last edited by Sneakdefreak

                            @Paekakboyz He's a better glovesman and fielder than the other options (and let's be honest, he won't play apart from being a sub).

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                            • Chris B.
                              Chris B. @rotated last edited by

                              @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                              Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.

                              They've been talking all season that the English pitches are likely to turn, so I think they were always taking two spinners - and pondering taking three.

                              Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult

                              We've got:
                              Southee - spare seamer
                              Sodhi - spare spinner
                              Blundell - spare keeper
                              Munro - spare batsman/allrounder

                              Which is what I think you want assuming that you'll mainly plan to play just one spinner.

                              Our bowlers don't look good enough to me to win this CWC - unless we fluke it.

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                              • NTA
                                NTA @mariner4life last edited by

                                @mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.

                                Nice try at the reverse curse, cockboy.

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                                • NTA
                                  NTA @Paekakboyz last edited by

                                  @Paekakboyz said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                  @mariner4life how high you think Davey will jump?? Into low orbit?

                                  What will be hilarious is if they leave Finch in and his form goes to shit, and leave Davey out

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                                  • mariner4life
                                    mariner4life @NTA last edited by

                                    @NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    @mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.

                                    Nice try at the reverse curse, cockboy.

                                    no reverse curse, i don't think we are a hope really. Aus are on a role.

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                                    • MN5
                                      MN5 @Chris B. last edited by

                                      @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                      @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                      Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.

                                      They've been talking all season that the English pitches are likely to turn, so I think they were always taking two spinners - and pondering taking three.

                                      Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult

                                      We've got:
                                      Southee - spare seamer
                                      Sodhi - spare spinner
                                      Blundell - spare keeper
                                      Munro - spare batsman/allrounder

                                      Which is what I think you want assuming that you'll mainly plan to play just one spinner.

                                      Our bowlers don't look good enough to me to win this CWC - unless we fluke it.

                                      Isn't it a funny quirk that Nicholls and Latham directly reverse positions based on the form of cricket they're playing, still considering we have a 3 and 4 as good as any in the world it's not a formula you wanna fuck with too much.

                                      I like that team although could an argument be made for Southee's experience ahead of CDGH or Ferguson ?

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                                      • NTA
                                        NTA @mariner4life last edited by

                                        @mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                        @NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                        @mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                        Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.

                                        Nice try at the reverse curse, cockboy.

                                        no reverse curse, i don't think we are a hope really. Aus are on a role.

                                        I didn't mean to suggest for a moment NZ were a chance, just that we're not as dominant as we look right now.

                                        We're still burdened with Marshes, for example.

                                        Though of course the easy route is to:

                                        • Replace SMarsh with The Angry Lesbian
                                        • Shift The Waj down the order and put Warner back in with Finch.
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                                          Nevorian @NTA last edited by

                                          @NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                          @Paekakboyz said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                          @mariner4life how high you think Davey will jump?? Into low orbit?

                                          What will be hilarious is if they leave Finch in and his form goes to shit, and leave Davey out

                                          More hilarious if they drop Finch and put little Davey in and he fails miserably

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                                          • MN5
                                            MN5 @NTA last edited by

                                            @NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                            @mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                            @NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                            @mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                            Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.

                                            Nice try at the reverse curse, cockboy.

                                            no reverse curse, i don't think we are a hope really. Aus are on a role.

                                            I didn't mean to suggest for a moment NZ were a chance, just that we're not as dominant as we look right now.

                                            We're still burdened with Marshes, for example.

                                            Though of course the easy route is to:

                                            • Replace SMarsh with The Angry Lesbian
                                            • Shift The Waj down the order and put Warner back in with Finch.

                                            Welcome to the Black Caps world......except this team has few, if any, passengers whereas in the past we've had a truckload of "can bat a bit, bowl a bit" types.

                                            Only Mitch Santner in this squad and.......

                                            .....only at test level.

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                                            • mariner4life
                                              mariner4life last edited by

                                              I would include Warner. You either have a redemption story or a scapegoat ready made then

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                                              • Chris B.
                                                Chris B. @mariner4life last edited by

                                                @mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.

                                                22 days ago I suggested on another thread they were the best value bet to win - I think they were paying $9 or $10. Now they're paying $5 and i reckon that's still reasonable money.

                                                Much more likely to win than England IMO.

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                                                • booboo
                                                  booboo @Nevorian last edited by

                                                  @Nevorian said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                  @NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                  @Paekakboyz said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                  @mariner4life how high you think Davey will jump?? Into low orbit?

                                                  What will be hilarious is if they leave Finch in and his form goes to shit, and leave Davey out

                                                  More hilarious if they drop Finch and put little Davey in and he fails miserably

                                                  Oh please make this happen

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                                                  • rotated
                                                    rotated @Virgil last edited by

                                                    @Virgil said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                    @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                    Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.

                                                    Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
                                                    Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..)

                                                    They took Hart and Vettori and they played a total of one game combined - Hart against Scotland.

                                                    Could be different this time and at least Sodhi and Santner offer something with the bat so you can justify playing one of them a bit easier - but in England and...

                                                    @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                    Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult

                                                    When outmatched by some of the bigger sides I don't see how Satner offers a better chance of victory than playing Southee and hope he can get it swinging in the UK conditions - especially with the tournament starting in May.

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                                                    • Hooroo
                                                      Hooroo @rotated last edited by

                                                      @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                      @Virgil said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                      @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                      Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.

                                                      Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
                                                      Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..)

                                                      They took Hart and Vettori and they played a total of one game combined - Hart against Scotland.

                                                      Could be different this time and at least Sodhi and Santner offer something with the bat so you can justify playing one of them a bit easier - but in England and...

                                                      @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                      Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult

                                                      When outmatched by some of the bigger sides I don't see how Satner offers a better chance of victory than playing Southee and hope he can get it swinging in the UK conditions - especially with the tournament starting in May.

                                                      I have to play a match this weekend and Hart is in our team (we are all meeting at the pub on Thursday to see who is who) Apparently a really nice guy in person but an absolute "meanie" on the cricket pitch.

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                                                      • Hooroo
                                                        Hooroo last edited by

                                                        It's live streaming now on https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/111733275/live-black-caps-announce-15man-cricket-world-cup-squad
                                                        But won't work for me at the office. Can someone provide updates?

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                                                        • Hooroo
                                                          Hooroo last edited by

                                                          CONFIRMED - the New Zealand World Cup squad is: Kane Williamson (captain), Martin Guptill, Henry Nicholls, Ross Taylor, Tom Latham, Colin Munro, Tom Blundell, Jimmy Neesham, Colin de Grandhomme, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Matt Henry, Lockie Ferguson, Trent Boult.

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                                                          • Sneakdefreak
                                                            Sneakdefreak last edited by

                                                            CONFIRMED - the New Zealand World Cup squad is: Kane Williamson (captain), Martin Guptill, Henry Nicholls, Ross Taylor, Tom Latham, Colin Munro, Tom Blundell, Jimmy Neesham, Colin de Grandhomme, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Matt Henry, Lockie Ferguson, Trent Boult.

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                                                            • Hooroo
                                                              Hooroo @Sneakdefreak last edited by

                                                              @Sneakdefreak man you're slow..... 🙂

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                                                              • Sneakdefreak
                                                                Sneakdefreak @Hooroo last edited by

                                                                @Hooroo said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                @Sneakdefreak man you're slow..... 🙂

                                                                My internet is slow....damn Vodafone....

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                                                                • Sneakdefreak
                                                                  Sneakdefreak last edited by

                                                                  Probably the best squad we could put together although Blundell is a definite bolter into the squad.

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                                                                  • Cyclops
                                                                    Cyclops last edited by

                                                                    Yeah I'd have preferred Seifert.

                                                                    I think Stead's off to a bit of a rocky start as a selector. Hesson's biggest strength as coach was his ability to select well and his confidence in his selections meaning he'd give them a chance to grow into the side.

                                                                    I'll give Stead the benefit of the doubt as he's new and still building up his experience of working with guys in the squad (and because Hesson started woefully too), but I think it's a work on for him.

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                                                                    • Chris B.
                                                                      Chris B. @Cyclops last edited by

                                                                      @Cyclops That thought about Hesson's selecting vs Stead's occurred to me as well. Though Gavin Larsen and whomever else are the selectors are presumably still there.

                                                                      Still, already Stead seems to chop and change a bit more than Hesson - though to be fair he is a new coach with his own ideas and I'm comparing to Hesson at the end of his regime, rather than the start.

                                                                      Blundell is a slightly odd selection, given that Seifert was given the warm-ups and seems to be the more explosive batsman. Maybe they see Blundell as more of a like-for-like replacement for Latham? And presumably a better keeper.

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                                                                      • Siam
                                                                        Siam last edited by

                                                                        Didn't Seifert break a finger recently? I thought he wasn't available at time of selection

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                                                                        • Chris B.
                                                                          Chris B. @Siam last edited by

                                                                          @Siam He did, but he's going to be healed well in time for the start of the CWC.

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                                                                          • Siam
                                                                            Siam @Chris B. last edited by

                                                                            @Chris-B yeah that occurred to me too. Perhaps didn't like his glove work enough? A bit odd, but probably that selection way down the list of concerns given it's a role that most likely won't play. 🤔

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                                                                            • MN5
                                                                              MN5 @Siam last edited by MN5

                                                                              @Siam said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                              @Chris-B yeah that occurred to me too. Perhaps didn't like his glove work enough? A bit odd, but probably that selection way down the list of concerns given it's a role that most likely won't play. 🤔

                                                                              If Latham isn't playing for whatever reason personally I'd want a fucken exceptional keeper taking over given the drop in batting quality that would come with it. If Blundell is that guy I'm happy with that.

                                                                              Very happy with the squad overall, I think we're a chance provided someone can consistently support Boult.

                                                                              Our Top order is as good as any in the tournament. Guppy, KW and Rossco are genuine worldbeaters in this form of the game and Latham and Nicholls are fine players too.

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                                                                              • MN5
                                                                                MN5 @Hooroo last edited by

                                                                                @Hooroo said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                @Virgil said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.

                                                                                Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
                                                                                Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..)

                                                                                They took Hart and Vettori and they played a total of one game combined - Hart against Scotland.

                                                                                Could be different this time and at least Sodhi and Santner offer something with the bat so you can justify playing one of them a bit easier - but in England and...

                                                                                @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult

                                                                                When outmatched by some of the bigger sides I don't see how Satner offers a better chance of victory than playing Southee and hope he can get it swinging in the UK conditions - especially with the tournament starting in May.

                                                                                I have to play a match this weekend and Hart is in our team (we are all meeting at the pub on Thursday to see who is who) Apparently a really nice guy in person but an absolute "meanie" on the cricket pitch.

                                                                                From what I remember Matthew Hart was about as intimidating as a 4th former in his playing days. Interested to hear what is so mean about him these days.

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                                                                                • Hooroo
                                                                                  Hooroo @MN5 last edited by

                                                                                  @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                  @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                  @Virgil said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                  @rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                  Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.

                                                                                  Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
                                                                                  Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..)

                                                                                  They took Hart and Vettori and they played a total of one game combined - Hart against Scotland.

                                                                                  Could be different this time and at least Sodhi and Santner offer something with the bat so you can justify playing one of them a bit easier - but in England and...

                                                                                  @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                  Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult

                                                                                  When outmatched by some of the bigger sides I don't see how Satner offers a better chance of victory than playing Southee and hope he can get it swinging in the UK conditions - especially with the tournament starting in May.

                                                                                  I have to play a match this weekend and Hart is in our team (we are all meeting at the pub on Thursday to see who is who) Apparently a really nice guy in person but an absolute "meanie" on the cricket pitch.

                                                                                  From what I remember Matthew Hart was about as intimidating as a 4th former in his playing days. Interested to hear what is so mean about him these days.

                                                                                  Apparently that wasn't the case at all on the pitch when feilding

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                                                                                  • rotated
                                                                                    rotated @Cyclops last edited by rotated

                                                                                    @Cyclops said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                                                                    I think Stead's off to a bit of a rocky start as a selector. Hesson's biggest strength as coach was his ability to select well and his confidence in his selections meaning he'd give them a chance to grow into the side.

                                                                                    Tough call when Stead hasn't selected a touring squad yet (Hesson strangely selected the Pakistan tour side before quitting, but two months prior to the tour).

                                                                                    Had a weird summer with playing the world's best team bookended by two relative easybeats, all while trying to prepare for the CWC... tough assignment. Some would argue he had too much faith in some like Munro and Southee.

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