2019 Cricket ODI WC
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Don't think we have a dedicated thread for the WC - pretty sure the team is announced today.
A few of our guys will be feeling flush after that payout for finishing 2nd in Test rankings!
World Cup is close guys - fuck yeah!!
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Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.
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@mariner4life how high you think Davey will jump?? Into low orbit?
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Ok, I was a day early. Squad named tomorrow.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12218343
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@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.
Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..) -
@Virgil probably will be able to get on the piss with Southee!! Kyle Mills was the non-playing squad member in 2015 - not sure if he was the only one?
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Hearing on Radio Sport, sounds like Kane wasn't a fan of Stead's boy Astle and might have used the captain's call in picking Sodhi.
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@Paekakboyz said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Virgil probably will be able to get on the piss with Southee!! Kyle Mills was the non-playing squad member in 2015 - not sure if he was the only one?
Tom Latham didn't play as well (unless he got a run against Afghanistan).
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@Sneakdefreak ah, that is interesting and would make sense for any last minute changes in selection. I don't have anything against Astle, but being better at fielding and batting shouldn't have been the focus when picking our second spinner imo.
Not sure what the rationale is around Blundell if he has actually been included.
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@Paekakboyz He's a better glovesman and fielder than the other options (and let's be honest, he won't play apart from being a sub).
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@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.
They've been talking all season that the English pitches are likely to turn, so I think they were always taking two spinners - and pondering taking three.
Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult
We've got:
Southee - spare seamer
Sodhi - spare spinner
Blundell - spare keeper
Munro - spare batsman/allrounderWhich is what I think you want assuming that you'll mainly plan to play just one spinner.
Our bowlers don't look good enough to me to win this CWC - unless we fluke it.
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.
Nice try at the reverse curse, cockboy.
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@Paekakboyz said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mariner4life how high you think Davey will jump?? Into low orbit?
What will be hilarious is if they leave Finch in and his form goes to shit, and leave Davey out
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@NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.
Nice try at the reverse curse, cockboy.
no reverse curse, i don't think we are a hope really. Aus are on a role.
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@Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.
They've been talking all season that the English pitches are likely to turn, so I think they were always taking two spinners - and pondering taking three.
Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult
We've got:
Southee - spare seamer
Sodhi - spare spinner
Blundell - spare keeper
Munro - spare batsman/allrounderWhich is what I think you want assuming that you'll mainly plan to play just one spinner.
Our bowlers don't look good enough to me to win this CWC - unless we fluke it.
Isn't it a funny quirk that Nicholls and Latham directly reverse positions based on the form of cricket they're playing, still considering we have a 3 and 4 as good as any in the world it's not a formula you wanna fuck with too much.
I like that team although could an argument be made for Southee's experience ahead of CDGH or Ferguson ?
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.
Nice try at the reverse curse, cockboy.
no reverse curse, i don't think we are a hope really. Aus are on a role.
I didn't mean to suggest for a moment NZ were a chance, just that we're not as dominant as we look right now.
We're still burdened with Marshes, for example.
Though of course the easy route is to:
- Replace SMarsh with The Angry Lesbian
- Shift The Waj down the order and put Warner back in with Finch.
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@NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Paekakboyz said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mariner4life how high you think Davey will jump?? Into low orbit?
What will be hilarious is if they leave Finch in and his form goes to shit, and leave Davey out
More hilarious if they drop Finch and put little Davey in and he fails miserably
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@NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.
Nice try at the reverse curse, cockboy.
no reverse curse, i don't think we are a hope really. Aus are on a role.
I didn't mean to suggest for a moment NZ were a chance, just that we're not as dominant as we look right now.
We're still burdened with Marshes, for example.
Though of course the easy route is to:
- Replace SMarsh with The Angry Lesbian
- Shift The Waj down the order and put Warner back in with Finch.
Welcome to the Black Caps world......except this team has few, if any, passengers whereas in the past we've had a truckload of "can bat a bit, bowl a bit" types.
Only Mitch Santner in this squad and.......
.....only at test level.
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I would include Warner. You either have a redemption story or a scapegoat ready made then
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Australia is going to win it, and it is going to be awful.
22 days ago I suggested on another thread they were the best value bet to win - I think they were paying $9 or $10. Now they're paying $5 and i reckon that's still reasonable money.
Much more likely to win than England IMO.
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@Nevorian said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Paekakboyz said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mariner4life how high you think Davey will jump?? Into low orbit?
What will be hilarious is if they leave Finch in and his form goes to shit, and leave Davey out
More hilarious if they drop Finch and put little Davey in and he fails miserably
Oh please make this happen
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@Virgil said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.
Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..)They took Hart and Vettori and they played a total of one game combined - Hart against Scotland.
Could be different this time and at least Sodhi and Santner offer something with the bat so you can justify playing one of them a bit easier - but in England and...
@Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult
When outmatched by some of the bigger sides I don't see how Satner offers a better chance of victory than playing Southee and hope he can get it swinging in the UK conditions - especially with the tournament starting in May.
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@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Virgil said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.
Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..)They took Hart and Vettori and they played a total of one game combined - Hart against Scotland.
Could be different this time and at least Sodhi and Santner offer something with the bat so you can justify playing one of them a bit easier - but in England and...
@Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult
When outmatched by some of the bigger sides I don't see how Satner offers a better chance of victory than playing Southee and hope he can get it swinging in the UK conditions - especially with the tournament starting in May.
I have to play a match this weekend and Hart is in our team (we are all meeting at the pub on Thursday to see who is who) Apparently a really nice guy in person but an absolute "meanie" on the cricket pitch.
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It's live streaming now on https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/111733275/live-black-caps-announce-15man-cricket-world-cup-squad
But won't work for me at the office. Can someone provide updates? -
CONFIRMED - the New Zealand World Cup squad is: Kane Williamson (captain), Martin Guptill, Henry Nicholls, Ross Taylor, Tom Latham, Colin Munro, Tom Blundell, Jimmy Neesham, Colin de Grandhomme, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Matt Henry, Lockie Ferguson, Trent Boult.
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CONFIRMED - the New Zealand World Cup squad is: Kane Williamson (captain), Martin Guptill, Henry Nicholls, Ross Taylor, Tom Latham, Colin Munro, Tom Blundell, Jimmy Neesham, Colin de Grandhomme, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Matt Henry, Lockie Ferguson, Trent Boult.
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@Sneakdefreak man you're slow.....
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@Hooroo said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Sneakdefreak man you're slow.....
My internet is slow....damn Vodafone....
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Probably the best squad we could put together although Blundell is a definite bolter into the squad.
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Yeah I'd have preferred Seifert.
I think Stead's off to a bit of a rocky start as a selector. Hesson's biggest strength as coach was his ability to select well and his confidence in his selections meaning he'd give them a chance to grow into the side.
I'll give Stead the benefit of the doubt as he's new and still building up his experience of working with guys in the squad (and because Hesson started woefully too), but I think it's a work on for him.
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@Cyclops That thought about Hesson's selecting vs Stead's occurred to me as well. Though Gavin Larsen and whomever else are the selectors are presumably still there.
Still, already Stead seems to chop and change a bit more than Hesson - though to be fair he is a new coach with his own ideas and I'm comparing to Hesson at the end of his regime, rather than the start.
Blundell is a slightly odd selection, given that Seifert was given the warm-ups and seems to be the more explosive batsman. Maybe they see Blundell as more of a like-for-like replacement for Latham? And presumably a better keeper.
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@Siam said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Chris-B yeah that occurred to me too. Perhaps didn't like his glove work enough? A bit odd, but probably that selection way down the list of concerns given it's a role that most likely won't play. 🤔
If Latham isn't playing for whatever reason personally I'd want a fucken exceptional keeper taking over given the drop in batting quality that would come with it. If Blundell is that guy I'm happy with that.
Very happy with the squad overall, I think we're a chance provided someone can consistently support Boult.
Our Top order is as good as any in the tournament. Guppy, KW and Rossco are genuine worldbeaters in this form of the game and Latham and Nicholls are fine players too.
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@Hooroo said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Virgil said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.
Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..)They took Hart and Vettori and they played a total of one game combined - Hart against Scotland.
Could be different this time and at least Sodhi and Santner offer something with the bat so you can justify playing one of them a bit easier - but in England and...
@Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult
When outmatched by some of the bigger sides I don't see how Satner offers a better chance of victory than playing Southee and hope he can get it swinging in the UK conditions - especially with the tournament starting in May.
I have to play a match this weekend and Hart is in our team (we are all meeting at the pub on Thursday to see who is who) Apparently a really nice guy in person but an absolute "meanie" on the cricket pitch.
From what I remember Matthew Hart was about as intimidating as a 4th former in his playing days. Interested to hear what is so mean about him these days.
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@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Virgil said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@rotated said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Taking two spinners to the UK, neither of which you have much faith in, is curious but Stead seemed insistent this summer he was going to do it.
Yeah very odd, looks like Ish will have a paid holiday.
Thinking back to the 1999 WC, didn’t Vettori go and not play a single game? (Too lazy to look it up..)They took Hart and Vettori and they played a total of one game combined - Hart against Scotland.
Could be different this time and at least Sodhi and Santner offer something with the bat so you can justify playing one of them a bit easier - but in England and...
@Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Assuming a first XI of Guptill, Nicholls, Kane, Rossco, Latham, Neesham, de Grandhomme, Santner, Henry, Ferguson, Boult
When outmatched by some of the bigger sides I don't see how Satner offers a better chance of victory than playing Southee and hope he can get it swinging in the UK conditions - especially with the tournament starting in May.
I have to play a match this weekend and Hart is in our team (we are all meeting at the pub on Thursday to see who is who) Apparently a really nice guy in person but an absolute "meanie" on the cricket pitch.
From what I remember Matthew Hart was about as intimidating as a 4th former in his playing days. Interested to hear what is so mean about him these days.
Apparently that wasn't the case at all on the pitch when feilding
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@Cyclops said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
I think Stead's off to a bit of a rocky start as a selector. Hesson's biggest strength as coach was his ability to select well and his confidence in his selections meaning he'd give them a chance to grow into the side.
Tough call when Stead hasn't selected a touring squad yet (Hesson strangely selected the Pakistan tour side before quitting, but two months prior to the tour).
Had a weird summer with playing the world's best team bookended by two relative easybeats, all while trying to prepare for the CWC... tough assignment. Some would argue he had too much faith in some like Munro and Southee.
