Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva)
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They play for Counties, does that not count or are we talking schools only. Laulala and Taumateine are Samoan born Wesley schooled. Leger went to HBHS to finish but is a counties raised kid.
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/2474/school-college-representation-in-super-rugby-2018/14
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@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@shark But here's the Chiefs squad that are from the area, included injury replacement players and if you don't wanna count them then be my guest. I also might be wrong with a few but here they are: Reuben O'Neill, Nathan Harris, Bradley Slater, Laghlan McWhannell, Daymon Leasuasu, Lachlan Boshier, Mitchell Brown, Sam Cane, Luke Jacobson, Mitch Jacobson, Jesse Parete, and Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi. Only a few less than the list you named.
Also I may be wrong with a few or missed a few so feel free to correct me.
- And you've been corrected on a couple. Of the original squad of 37 plus injury replacements, gee, umm, that's really fuck all.
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So hard to state categorical criteria but i reckon a good start is schooled in the region. And not a year at Christs College or St Bede's ala D McKenzie or Tokolahi, respectively. All of High School and ideally more. If you dont know them ff hand or are uncertain then Wikipedia profiles generally state a birthplace and HS which is hard to go past if both correlate with a region. But beyond that, there needs to be a little more knowledge of the player.
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Fucking beautiful. I missed this so much. Chiefs go good, shark gets on the troll. Nice to be relevant, even if just for a couple of days
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@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
Fucking beautiful. I missed this so much. Chiefs go good, shark gets on the troll. Nice to be relevant, even if just for a couple of days
Yep, it's the annual @shark complain about the Chiefs thread, glad I didn't miss it.
Let's also not forget that the starting team that started of the Crusaders dynasty in the 1998 final only had 1/3 players from the region in an era before direct contracting.
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@booboo said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@Stargazer said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@westcoastie said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@Machpants said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
I saw that coming, how dumb was that? Mo'unga moron
Mounga didn't do a hell of a lot tonight did he, Debreczeni (spelling) was the better 10. Shows that RM isn't the second coming - and makes mistakes.
Comedy gold, that comment.
Why?
Didn't fit the narrative.
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It's professional rugby. Teams pick players that suit the profile of the player they are looking for. If no player from their catchment fits that profile, or if a player from another catchment is just better, they sign that player from another catchment (if that player hasn't been signed by his "home franchise"). Some franchises are better than others at identifying the right players; if good players are being overlooked by their "home franchise", then it's a good thing if they get their opportunity at another franchise. That also ensures to a reasonable degree that all players who are deserving of a SR contract, actually get one. Ideally, players from my province are signed by the Canes, but I'm glad that some players who weren't picked up by the Canes or didn't get sufficient game time, have ended up at the Chiefs and Highlanders.
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@Nepia said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
Fucking beautiful. I missed this so much. Chiefs go good, shark gets on the troll. Nice to be relevant, even if just for a couple of days
Yep, it's the annual @shark complain about the Chiefs thread, glad I didn't miss it.
Let's also not forget that the starting team that started of the Crusaders dynasty in the 1998 final only had 1/3 players from the region in an era before direct contracting.
I just find it hilarious that a Cantab can talk about a lack of catchment players in the Chiefs when they have been mining Counties for decades.
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@Crucial said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@Nepia said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
Fucking beautiful. I missed this so much. Chiefs go good, shark gets on the troll. Nice to be relevant, even if just for a couple of days
Yep, it's the annual @shark complain about the Chiefs thread, glad I didn't miss it.
Let's also not forget that the starting team that started of the Crusaders dynasty in the 1998 final only had 1/3 players from the region in an era before direct contracting.
I just find it hilarious that a Cantab can talk about a lack of catchment players in the Chiefs when they have been mining Counties for decades.
What has that handful of players got to do with it? Maybe blame the Chiefs for not identifying and retaining the Laulalas and Read instead?
I'm not whinging about players lost from the Crusaders' catchment to other SR sides. And there's some quality there, too, in Alaimalo, McKay, ALB, Eliott Dixon, Lentjes, Prinsep, Retallick, DLB and Ash Dixon, off the top of my head.
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@Tim said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
One note in the Crusaders defence - playing two NZ derby games in a row is pretty tough.
I suspect conditions played into the Chiefs hands a bit with all those loose forwards in their pack and a bit more speed in the backs. A bit more mobility and endurance.
I think the Crusaders probably won the first 20 minutes of each half by something like 27-7 and lost the second 20 minutes 33-0.
The usual scrambling second line of defence largely went missing and they were opened up like a can of sardines.
Tactics were also crap though - as Steven Harris points out. Too much ball kicked to the Chiefs to run back at us, when the defence was out on its feet. And Funnel had a shocker with his lineout throwing.
All-in-all a bit concerning, but I expect most of these problems to be addressed when we play the Rebels in zero degrees ChCh compared with 25 degrees Suva.
Nonetheless, I'll be happy enough not to see The Effing Chiefs (feat. Brodie Retallick) in eighth place!
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@Chris-B Have the Crusaders already played with their first choice team this year? Can't remember seeing Moody, Taylor. Franks in one and the same game together? It seems we have to wait until the QF or SF to see that (if Moody can stay in one piece until then)? And Todd may be more important to the team than he is getting credit for?
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@Stargazer I don't think any Crusader fan would use rotation and/or unavailability as an excuse given the depth we have, BUT taking out the resting players, we are missing due to injury Franks, Perry, Taylor, Sanders and Strange in the forwards and Dagg, Mataele and Jordan in the backs. On any given night, that's an All Black front row, and the other guys being out hurts your ability to rotate guys and lowers the quality of your rotation which can't be helpful.
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@shark said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@Crucial said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@Nepia said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
Fucking beautiful. I missed this so much. Chiefs go good, shark gets on the troll. Nice to be relevant, even if just for a couple of days
Yep, it's the annual @shark complain about the Chiefs thread, glad I didn't miss it.
Let's also not forget that the starting team that started of the Crusaders dynasty in the 1998 final only had 1/3 players from the region in an era before direct contracting.
I just find it hilarious that a Cantab can talk about a lack of catchment players in the Chiefs when they have been mining Counties for decades.
What has that handful of players got to do with it? Maybe blame the Chiefs for not identifying and retaining the Laulalas and Read instead?
I'm not whinging about players lost from the Crusaders' catchment to other SR sides. And there's some quality there, too, in Alaimalo, McKay, ALB, Eliott Dixon, Lentjes, Prinsep, Retallick, DLB and Ash Dixon, off the top of my head.
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@shark said in Chiefs v Crusaders (Suva):
@Stargazer I don't think any Crusader fan would use rotation and/or unavailability as an excuse given the depth we have, BUT taking out the resting players, we are missing due to injury Franks, Perry, Taylor, Sanders and Strange in the forwards and Dagg, Mataele and Jordan in the backs. On any given night, that's an All Black front row, and the other guys being out hurts your ability to rotate guys and lowers the quality of your rotation which can't be helpful.
Cry me a river. Dagg*, Mataele and Jordan? Yeah, they'd scare any side.
Hurt your ability to rotate? That's very weak sauce.
(*Dagg used to be excellent. That was quite some time ago now.)