What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/114698036/all-blacks-whats-wrong-with-rieko-ioane
Personally, I think there's something we're holding back which would re-start Ioane, re-start our attack and is our incumbent first-five-eighths greatest attacking weapon: the cross-kick or kick-pass. It surely can't be a fluke that Mo'unga didn't try this once on Saturday despite having two fantastic receivers on the wings.
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Does this really need it's own thread where you just copy the whole article?
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@KiwiMurph said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Does this really need it's own thread where you just copy the whole article?
Short thread, answer is nothing.
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@Kirwan said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Short thread, answer is nothing.
Indeed. A functioning midfield and he might get an opportunity too.
Move along, nothing to see here.
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Quick! Release him now before we have another case of sluggish Savea on our hands.
Nothing wrong with Reiko, he is now on the end of a chain that will provide him quality pill. Let the try spree commence.
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Well he needs to hold onto the ball first, made 3 or 4 handling errors on Saturday. Hansen needs to just keep playing him, he’s played 1 meaningful game in 2 months
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'He doesn't play for the Crusaders?'
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The rush defense affecting penetration in the midfield and we are not managing it. This is why we need the forwards to win up front and maybe that is why Hansen wants ball running props. The game is still won in the forwards. Just my dos pesos.
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@broughie said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
The rush defense affecting penetration in the midfield and we are not managing it. This is why we need the forwards to win up front and maybe that is why Hansen wants ball running props. The game is still won in the forwards. Just my dos pesos.
Once leinert brown replaced SBW the ball suddenly made it past 12 pretty regularly... SBW affects the whole backline because he's too slow to get it to the outside channels.
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@Donsteppa said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
'He doesn't play for the Crusaders?'
A problem that many a rugby player finds themselves in...
In saying that there’s possibly room for one T. Blue in my side
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A more appropriate headline would read:
'What's wrong with the reporter?'
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Not in anything like his best form yet, but a quality player and clearly worth persevering with.
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@sparky said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Not in anything like his best form yet, but a quality player and clearly worth persevering with.
You sure he’s worth persevering with?
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Hopefully M Cheika is reading this and comes up with a clever plan to attack Reikos wing only to get crushed and outnumbered elsewhere
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@ACT-Crusader said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
You sure he’s worth persevering with?
You don't?
Other contenders?
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@Snowy sarcasm maybe...?
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@Snowy said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@ACT-Crusader said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
You sure he’s worth persevering with?
You don't?
Other contenders?
N E Crusader?
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@Donsteppa said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@Snowy said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@ACT-Crusader said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
You sure he’s worth persevering with?
You don't?
Other contenders?
N E Crusader?
A good call.
Who's next, Jordan?
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Rieko Ioane looks much bigger than Dalton Papaali'i though the latter is given at 1.93 m and 114 kg in the Blues site. Based on that picture, I have some doubts about his future as the next Jerome Kaino.
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@cgrant I've seen Papalii in person. He's a beast.
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@ACT-Crusader said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@sparky said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Not in anything like his best form yet, but a quality player and clearly worth persevering with.
You sure he’s worth persevering with?
Have a horrible feeling he's going to celebrate a try with a Fortnite dance some time soon, but he has a great try-scoring record.
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@taniwharugby said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@Snowy sarcasm maybe...?
Actually wasn't sure if it was sarcasm, stupidity, or an attempt at humour. Will go with sarcasm, although I suspect that there is an element of truth in @Donsteppa 's reply...(tongue firmly in cheek).
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@cgrant said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Rieko Ioane looks much bigger than Dalton Papaali'i though the latter is given at 1.93 m and 114 kg in the Blues site. Based on that picture, I have some doubts about his future as the next Jerome Kaino.
Get your eyes checked
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@Snowy said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@taniwharugby said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@Snowy sarcasm maybe...?
Actually wasn't sure if it was sarcasm, stupidity, or an attempt at humour. Will go with sarcasm, although I suspect that there is an element of truth in @Donsteppa 's reply...(tongue firmly in cheek).
The fact that someone actually thought it even necessary to say that he’s worth persevering with is one of the more humorous things I’ve read on here. And not in a haha sort of way....
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@ACT-Crusader Given that you only pick crusaders led to the doubt.
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@Snowy said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@ACT-Crusader Given that you only pick crusaders led to the doubt.
And Hansen and co still don’t listen. I blame Fox
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@KiwiMurph said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Does this really need it's own thread where you just copy the whole article?
Is it uncommon for a new thread to be lead off by an online story?! You don't need to agree with it for it to be a valid discussion point.
What I find more strange is that no-one else thinks it's odd Mo'unga didn't try a single kick-pass last week. Unless I missed them? This is more my angle than whether something is actually wrong with R Ioane.
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@shark said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@KiwiMurph said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Does this really need it's own thread where you just copy the whole article?
Is it uncommon for a new thread to be lead off by an online story?!
What I find more strange is that no-one else thinks it's odd Mo'unga didn't try a single kick-pass last week. Unless I missed them?
I think that is actually a good thing. That tactic has been done to death and rarely works.
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@pukunui said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@shark said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@KiwiMurph said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Does this really need it's own thread where you just copy the whole article?
Is it uncommon for a new thread to be lead off by an online story?!
What I find more strange is that no-one else thinks it's odd Mo'unga didn't try a single kick-pass last week. Unless I missed them?
I think that is actually a good thing. That tactic has been done to death and rarely works.
Maybe in general it rarely works, but not in Mo'unga's case. He often has it on a string at SR level. There was a game this season where we scored two tries on opposite sides of the field using this kick.
I see it as a much better value option than up and unders in traffic, which I'm totally sick of.
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The cross kick is horribly overdone, particularly by Barrett. Ioane being shit in that one game is not that big a deal, but it's also not down to the midfield or lack of cross kicks. It's because he dropped just about every single thing that was thrown to him.
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@Dolamite said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Well he needs to hold onto the ball first, made 3 or 4 handling errors on Saturday. Hansen needs to just keep playing him, he’s played 1 meaningful game in 2 months
At least one of those was due to a horrible pass from Goodhue, who didn't bother to look where he was passing and, therefore, threw it behind Reiko
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@SammyC I need to watch again because things did change. I am a ALB fan and would like to see him at 2/5 over SBW. ALB is able to make ground in tight spaces where SBW is more of a straight runner who hopes to offload. Still think we need to make more ground in the forwards to set up the backs.
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@junior how often do our guys throw passes without looking expecting someone to be there?
Similarly that clip that lead to the SA try, Pollard didnt look for his pass...alot of what these guys do is instinctive and based on expectations and trust of those around them to be in the right spot...which obviously requires the pass to be in the right spot too...
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@shark said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@KiwiMurph said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Does this really need it's own thread where you just copy the whole article?
Is it uncommon for a new thread to be lead off by an online story?! You don't need to agree with it for it to be a valid discussion point.
It wasn't about the topic - you had copy and pasted the whole article initally before it got edited.
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@KiwiMurph said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@shark said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@KiwiMurph said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
Does this really need it's own thread where you just copy the whole article?
Is it uncommon for a new thread to be lead off by an online story?! You don't need to agree with it for it to be a valid discussion point.
It wasn't about the topic - you had copy and pasted the whole article initally before it got edited.
Oh right. I wouldn't have the first clue how to do it any other way. I used to know my way around TSF pretty well but these dya even on desktop I find it a bit difficult.
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@taniwharugby said in What's Wrong With Reiko Ioane?:
@junior how often do our guys throw passes without looking expecting someone to be there?
Similarly that clip that lead to the SA try, Pollard didnt look for his pass...alot of what these guys do is instinctive and based on expectations and trust of those around them to be in the right spot...which obviously requires the pass to be in the right spot too...
They do it a lot, which is fine for short simple passes. However, the one I'm referring to was a 10m plus pass that didn't hit its mark. There was no need to throw a no-looker there, as Reiko was already in space and so there was no need for any deception.
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Reiko's been a massive dud for the Al Blacks in 2019. He looks very lucky to have made the ABs squad for the tournament.
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@sparky You're like a click bait algorithm that's stuck on "emphatic mode". Every thing you post is completely over the top, like a distillation of the last 24 hours' media hype.
He's been about the same as most All Blacks this year, and was fine against Canada.
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@Tim It's a Forum. Other people are sometimes going to think differently from you, my friend.
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@sparky If you're going to post the most over the top stuff all the time, I'm going to point it out.
