Coronavirus - Overall
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From what I've read about UK stats it seems going into ICU is a 50/50 deal, although I think UK stats are based on people who are out of ICU, currently in ICU, and those that passed after being in ICU. So it's possibly a bit better than 50% but that's still rough as. From a similar source it seems you dip into the 30% survival range if you need a ventilator.
Really hope Boris can shake this... also wondering if he managed to shake Pier's hand before he went in ( just a tad)
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@MajorRage that 80% left ICT but still in hospital is quite heartening - and quite different from the stuff I was reading.
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I hope Boris pulls through. If he doesn't the effect on society in the UK (and globally) will be immense I'd have thought. A healthy-ish 55 year old succumbing to Coronavirus would put the fear of god into a great many people.
UK Ferners - what's the mood like over there? Be a very unsettling thing I'd have thought.
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Have stumbled across an email newsletter being published by RMIT and ABC doing some fact checks.
I thought it was meant to be daily but seems to miss the odd day.
Anyway, out if interest today's email talks about:
- The comparison between Singapore's and Australia's responses. Looks like Singapore went earlier with initial success, but haven't sustained it and their numbers are not flattening.
- Joe Exotic does not have WuFlu
- Facebook story about WHO announcing it is airborne is debunked
- Facebook story about a doctor in Italy deliberately mistreating 3500 patients so they died is debunked
- antibiotic ointment up your nose doesn't work
- cannabis doesnt kill the virus
- Trump did not call the virus a hoax
Nothing earth shattering but may be of interest. May help with Facebook hysteria.
If interested google ABC coronavirus fact check newsletter.
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@taniwharugby We've still got Instagram!
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@taniwharugby Noooooo... Can I trust tumblr?
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@taniwharugby Noooooo... Can I trust tumblr?
they got rid of the porn. fuck tumblr
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@sparky said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback There was an amazing report on the BBC News tonight from inside the University College London Hospital:
Not sure if the link works outside the UK.
That is a tough watch
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@taniwharugby We've still got Instagram!
That’s for something else entirely. Haven’t you seen the Haawt thread?
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I hope Boris pulls through. If he doesn't the effect on society in the UK (and globally) will be immense I'd have thought. A healthy-ish 55 year old succumbing to Coronavirus would put the fear of god into a great many people.
UK Ferners - what's the mood like over there? Be a very unsettling thing I'd have thought.
Mate, have you not been following the UK in the last few years? We don't even bat an eyelid when a PM disappears.
To be honest, not all that fussed here. He's in ICU but only been taken in (earlier than any normal patient) so that he's close to a ventilator if it is actually required - which it hasn't been so far.
Otherwise, everything continues on as it has been the last couple of weeks.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@sparky said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Boris now in intensive care.
The UK Prime Minister is fighting for his life this evening. Thoughts with his colleagues, his many friends and family. Hope he pulls through.
This virus can hit anyone. I hope people realise how serious the situation is now and follow the advice, wash their hands and stay at home.
He's not even on a ventilator at this stage is he?
It appears he is currently in a stable condition.
I think fighting for his life is a bit of a stretch at this stage
Yeah the wording is vague and of course now the various media are picking out bits of info. From those I trust it seems:
10% Covid patients in ICU don’t make it
80% have left ICU but not hospital
10% still in ICU
He’s conscious, talking and NOT on a ventilator. He IS on oxygen.It ain’t strong but I suspect he has gone into ICU earlier than others would have so there is no reason right now to fear the worst.
Update from an NHS Surgeon who we know - not specific to Boris, but what this really means.
The stats are somewhat worse than what I said. Survival rate from entering ICU with Covid is much lower than reported above. Around the 50-60% mark depending on what factors are taken into account (business of hospital, necessity of ICU etc). As Boris is not on a ventilator, then that puts him on the better side of the ledger. However, she assumes that there is a chance he will need, and hence has been put there JIC. It's likely that if he wasn't Boris, he wouldn't be in ICU, and with his age only being 55 and limited (public anyway) underlying health conditions means he's a strong candidate for getting through this.
The worst part though, is that we may or may not receive any real updates for two weeks. She said it's like a balance of the body fighting the virus and what they can do. Nobody is the same, that's why people over 100 have survived it and some people under 50 have not.
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I hope Boris pulls through. If he doesn't the effect on society in the UK (and globally) will be immense I'd have thought. A healthy-ish 55 year old succumbing to Coronavirus would put the fear of god into a great many people.
UK Ferners - what's the mood like over there? Be a very unsettling thing I'd have thought.
Mood seems calm, defiant and resolute as far as I can tell. But everyone is now keeping their distance.
Boris Johnson is most energetic guy in most rooms he walks in to so for him to go to an ICU is a sign he is extremely sick. It is a big shock for people working in the PM's office, about half of them have had Corona symptoms. Odds still in PM's favour for a full recovery.
Most concern is about reports of hospital staff getting sick. A 23-year old nursing assistant working in my local hospital's ICU dropped dead after a long shift at the weekend.
The staff working in ICU through all this are heroes.