Coronavirus - Overall
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
We just need more
compliantresponsible citizens'Morality pills' may be the US's best shot at ending the coronavirus pandemic, according to one ethicist
Fixed it for you. I am sure you see compliance as a negative thing in this instance
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
We just need more
compliantresponsible citizens'Morality pills' may be the US's best shot at ending the coronavirus pandemic, according to one ethicist
Fixed it for you. I am sure you see compliance as a negative thing in this instance
Compliant was the right word. Some Govts (and people) want complaint citizens who will follow orders no matter how ridiculous. And no matter what the cost. Like wearing masks on a call for example. Or at the beach with your family.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman Two simple charts that compare Sweden to the US. Hmmm.
I accept that's rather fatuous, but if you read the article the villainisation of Sweden is to striking to be accidental.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman Two simple charts that compare Sweden to the US. Hmmm.
I accept that's rather fatuous, but if you read the article the villainisation of Sweden is to striking to be accidental.
In true TSF tradition I regard my right to post an opinion on an article without having read it... but whilst I am not on the villianisation of Sweden (of which there is a lot) nor am I on the Sweden are fantastic bandwagon (of which there is a lot). Still too early to have any real clue.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman Two simple charts that compare Sweden to the US. Hmmm.
I accept that's rather fatuous, but if you read the article the villainisation of Sweden is to striking to be accidental.
In true TSF tradition I regard my right to post an opinion on an article without having read it... but whilst I am not on the villianisation of Sweden (of which there is a lot) nor am I on the Sweden are fantastic bandwagon (of which there is a lot). Still too early to have any real clue.
I support the protection of bandwagons.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
From the same source:-
Whilst the article is from a trashy tabloid the facts are unquestionable. Covid is currently killing a small fraction of the number of English people being killed by Flu.
No mention of Flu preventing a return of pupils to school!
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
From the same source:-
Whilst the article is from a trashy tabloid the facts are unquestionable. Covid is currently killing a small fraction of the number of English people being killed by Flu.
No mention of Flu preventing a return of pupils to school!
Likely (though I would always question The Sun’s “facts”). But the worry is not the current levels of deaths it is how infectious the virus is and how containable it isn’t. No-one should be concentrating on a single data point at this stage - as The Sun is. And always does.
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@pakman They ignore what the death rates were before their tiny snapshot. On top of which the article says COVID is killing just under 50% of those dying from flu. Not a tiny fraction. The majority of their graphs compare COVID to all deaths in a typically Sun misreporting way.
All The Sun article does is offer support to the current containment policies. i.e. Look how bad it was before we did xyz (pretty fucking bad) and look how much it has improved (shitloads). Plus there is an added benefit in that social distancing etc is reducing the numbers dying from other infectious diseases
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman They ignore what the death rates were before their tiny snapshot. On top of which the article says COVID is killing just under 50% of those dying from flu. Not a tiny fraction. The majority of their graphs compare COVID to all deaths in a typically Sun misreporting way.
All The Sun article does is offer support to the current containment policies. i.e. Look how bad it was before we did xyz (pretty fucking bad) and look how much it has improved (shitloads). Plus there is an added benefit in that social distancing etc is reducing the numbers dying from other infectious diseases
The stats are widely reported in UK.
Latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) revealed flu and pneumonia killed 1,013 people in England and Wales in the week up to August 7, compared to 152 patients who lost their lives to coronavirus. That's about a seventh.
Lots of factors at play, one of which is that UK medics have massively refined how they treat Covid. That said, numbers in ICU wards right down. I think I read somewhere that 50% of hospitals have none.
My take is that Covid just isn't that dangerous, at least for healthy people under 70.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman They ignore what the death rates were before their tiny snapshot. On top of which the article says COVID is killing just under 50% of those dying from flu. Not a tiny fraction. The majority of their graphs compare COVID to all deaths in a typically Sun misreporting way.
All The Sun article does is offer support to the current containment policies. i.e. Look how bad it was before we did xyz (pretty fucking bad) and look how much it has improved (shitloads). Plus there is an added benefit in that social distancing etc is reducing the numbers dying from other infectious diseases
This is the period of time (My green circle) that The Sun graph is covering.
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I don't particularly care what policy UK govt is taking, not my fight, agree schools should re-open (i don't even know if they are closed).
I just really like graphs.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
My take is that Covid just isn't that dangerous, at least for healthy people under 70.
Tell that to somebody who has had it. Such as this healthy 40-ish mate of mine, who described it thus...
Ok Covid-19, I'll put my hands up and say that was one hell of a fight. Seventeen straight days, six days on an isolation ward, four kilos lighter and - I'll admit it - I thought you had me at one point.
Only I had someone in my corner. I had the hardest fucking firm ever assembled behind me. I had the NHS. So this is a massive heartfelt THANK YOU to everyone who works at XXXX Hospital, XXXX. You saved my life. X