Coronavirus - New Zealand





  • @booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @MajorRage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    Oh and Jacinda, yet again is smashing the global popularity contest!!!

    Have to admit the Easter Bunny comment was inspired.

    she was beaten by a few days by, of all people, the Qld Premier.



  • @Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I think those deaths should be included in the Covid-19 stats......

    So you did actually run the stupid old bastard over?

    freezer a bit empty?



  • @mariner4life oh good. I can drop back my esteemometer a notch :).

    Credit to Anastasia.



  • @booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @mariner4life oh good. I can drop back my esteemometer a notch :).

    Credit to Anastasia.

    yeah, even i had to give her credit for that one.

    She's fucking useless otherwise





  • https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/120898650/coronavirus-traveller-says-covid19-controls-weak-at-auckland-airport

    They have to get border controls sorted out, sounds like there is still opportunity for the virus to be carried back from abroad. I don't want to be locked down any longer than I have to be, so cleaning up the country only for some one to bring the virus back to start over again will not be cool



  • It’s the one major area the govt has failed, happy with everything else they have done. The lock down included. But has felt they could have stoped more cases from getting out



  • There are 50 new cases - 26 confirmed and 24 probable. This takes the the total confirmed and probable cases to 1210.

    • There are 12 significant clusters. Community transmission accounts for 2 per cent of cases.
    • 12 people are in hospital - four in ICU, two of which are critical. 282 people have recovered.
    • One person has died from coronavirus so far.
    • 46,975 tests have been carried out to date - 4096 were performed yesterday.


  • @Virgil said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    It’s the one major area the govt has failed, happy with everything else they have done. The lock down included. But has felt they could have stoped more cases from getting out

    and if we do stamp this out inside NZ, then it's the most critical way to stop further infection



  • @Virgil yeah it is frustrating, but then has been the case since they started the 'self isolation' a few weeks back, then supposedly tighter restrictions a few days later, plenty of stories circulating that it was too lax...

    being as isolated as we are, strict protocols at the border should have been our first and foremost weapon in fighting this.

    Although, I guess you could argue, that since these seemingly underwhelming restrictions, the numbers have shown that it has slowed the spread....

    I know our tourism industry would take a hit, but shutting our borders to any non-essential travel would surely be the best approach?



  • What the fuck is the govt doing?? Zero point in this lock down and the economic carnage that has happened if they leave the borders weak.



  • @taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I think if the world borders remain tight for a sustained period, most of the tourist dollars NZers spent outside NZ will end up being spent in NZ, one reason many dont holiday here is the cost, so if the industry wants to get back on it's feet, appealing to the average NZer that would typically go to Fiji, Gold Coast, Bali etc is going to be key.

    I'm already considering where in NZ to take the family in the Winter holidays now that all planned overseas trips are canned. I think the NZ tourist industry is set to have a strong middle and second half of the year because I suspect I'm not alone



  • I've just been listening to the live stream.

    The testing criteria blows my mind. They raised the specific case of someone with C19 symptoms, and tests positive. The wife who lives with them doesn't qualify for a C19 test What The Actual Fark??? How the hell do we know where C19 is in the community if we're not testing people who could have been exposed to this?

    My mind is blown. Hopefully someone can correct or update me, as this just doesn't make any sense to me at all



  • @nzzp I was in Sydney for the cricket with some mates. Came back early on the Sunday to avoid being isolated (didn't matter; that changed three days later anyway and I had to isolate). On the Friday I went to my GP because I felt a bit shit, and was told I wasn't Covid-19 symptomatic so didn't need a test but I did have an ear and throat infection, and was given a prescription. A week later one of my mates was also feeling under the weather, didn't believe he was symptomatic but goes to see his GP and immediately gets sent for a test. How does that work??



  • apparently Northland Police have had to set up a check point on SH1 south of Whangarei to turn back people trying to head north (from Auckland) for Easter 🤦



  • @taniwharugby the secession has started!



  • @nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I've just been listening to the live stream.

    The testing criteria blows my mind. They raised the specific case of someone with C19 symptoms, and tests positive. The wife who lives with them doesn't qualify for a C19 test What The Actual Fark??? How the hell do we know where C19 is in the community if we're not testing people who could have been exposed to this?

    My mind is blown. Hopefully someone can correct or update me, as this just doesn't make any sense to me at all

    Was it the journalists who raised the issue that the wife was told she didn't qualify for a test?

    Surely whomever from the government was fronting the press conference assured them that she was?

    Otherwise it's no surprise that you get these anecdotal stories, because there are no shortage of clowns who fuck things up spread throughout every strata of the community.

    The great problem is when you have an intersection of two clowns and the virus.



  • @Chris-B said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I've just been listening to the live stream.

    The testing criteria blows my mind. They raised the specific case of someone with C19 symptoms, and tests positive. The wife who lives with them doesn't qualify for a C19 test What The Actual Fark??? How the hell do we know where C19 is in the community if we're not testing people who could have been exposed to this?

    My mind is blown. Hopefully someone can correct or update me, as this just doesn't make any sense to me at all

    Was it the journalists who raised the issue that the wife was told she didn't qualify for a test?

    Journalists raised that the wife of someone with C19 didn't get a test.

    Dr Bloomfield confirmed that is the case. No testing is being carried out on anyone who is asymptomatic.

    Like I said, mind blown -- we don't appear to be testing anyone who isn't presenting with symptoms.



  • @nzzp That surprises the hell out of me, as well.

    So when that guy is given the all clear and is "recovered" - both he and his wife will be in the clear to go to the supermarket - even though there's a fair probability she's going to have contracted it at some time during their self isolation - even if not yet showing symptoms?

    Surely they aren't that silly?



  • @nzzp Not quite accurate. He said that at the time protocols were followed but this did not include testing those who weren't close contacts or sympotomatic. Nevertheless all staff and students were isolated as soon as the cluster was identified. Under new protocols anyone with CV symptoms will be tested and from now even those with no symptoms will be tested if they have been in contact with a cluster.



  • @shark goes different GP's will interpret things differently or even wilfully massage the protocols. My GP manipulated the results to get me on lipids before I should have qualified.

    They indicated that after we come out of lockdown the border will be strengthened. Very strong implication this will mean quarantine.



  • @Chris-B said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @nzzp That surprises the hell out of me, as well.

    So when that guy is given the all clear and is "recovered" - both he and his wife will be in the clear to go to the supermarket - even though there's a fair probability she's going to have contracted it at some time during their self isolation - even if not yet showing symptoms?

    Surely they aren't that silly?

    They've increased the testing scope/criteria since that first death



  • @mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I think those deaths should be included in the Covid-19 stats......

    So you did actually run the stupid old bastard over?

    freezer a bit empty?

    Far from it. I did some panic "buying".



  • @nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I've just been listening to the live stream.

    The testing criteria blows my mind. They raised the specific case of someone with C19 symptoms, and tests positive. The wife who lives with them doesn't qualify for a C19 test What The Actual Fark??? How the hell do we know where C19 is in the community if we're not testing people who could have been exposed to this?

    My mind is blown. Hopefully someone can correct or update me, as this just doesn't make any sense to me at all

    I was tested with pretty mild symptoms, mainly because my wife is a health worker. They have a lot of descretion the testing place it seems. Since they have never hit the full amount of tests they can do a day, seems to me they should just test whoever rocks up until that's not true anymore.

    More data points right?



  • I would totally encourage tourist spots to offer a 'local' discount. Last year went on a cruise around NZ and stopped off in plenty of touristy places. Treaty house offered this discount and it was great. Cool museum, good show, nice cafe, very professional. But near the end of cruise stopped in Napier, went to the aquarium. Same price as discounted treaty house cost per person, except it was shabby, a section was under repair, and our whole group was through in very quick time. That felt like a rip off.



  • @Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I've just been listening to the live stream.

    The testing criteria blows my mind. They raised the specific case of someone with C19 symptoms, and tests positive. The wife who lives with them doesn't qualify for a C19 test What The Actual Fark??? How the hell do we know where C19 is in the community if we're not testing people who could have been exposed to this?

    My mind is blown. Hopefully someone can correct or update me, as this just doesn't make any sense to me at all

    I was tested with pretty mild symptoms, mainly because my wife is a health worker. They have a lot of descretion the testing place it seems. Since they have never hit the full amount of tests they can do a day, seems to me they should just test whoever rocks up until that's not true anymore.

    More data points right?

    Was thinking about you earlier, wondering how your test results went and whether it was appropriate to ask! Assume all good?



  • @voodoo yep, both me and the wife tested negative. Both had very mild symptoms, but as I'm in the high risk group I went along as well. If the wife was positive then it would have shut down her workplace so she had to be tested as well.

    They have great PPE equipment now, sourced by her employer.

    We were both in strict isolation while we waited for the results, they tell you to assume you are positive.



  • @Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I think those deaths should be included in the Covid-19 stats......

    So you did actually run the stupid old bastard over?

    freezer a bit empty?

    Far from it. I did some panic "buying".

    [Shudder]



  • @JC So easy at the moment. Nobody on the roads, houses / shelves are full. Cops are busy with surfers and the guy down the road who lit a fire (actually true).

    Like many staples, fava beans are out of stock which is a bugger, but chianti is all good.



  • @taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    apparently Northland Police have had to set up a check point on SH1 south of Whangarei to turn back people trying to head north (from Auckland) for Easter 🤦

    At the bottom of the Kopu-Hikuai hill (the gateway to the Coromandel peninsula).

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  • Wife travels to work with her "papers" allowing her to travel. Fun times.



  • @Bovidae prety pathetic they need to do that really



  • @taniwharugby And it would be an 1 h+ drive to get there from Auckland/Waikato so I am happy if the idiots are inconvenienced for breaking the lockdown rules.



  • @Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    Wife travels to work with her "papers" allowing her to travel. Fun times.

    Our legal team have apparently drafted "essential services" letters to permit us to continue travelling. A friend came up with the term Covstapo.

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  • @taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @Bovidae prety pathetic they need to do that really

    Anyone that thinks that all NZers can be trusted to do the right thing can guess again. I have no problem with it, because if I am not allowed to return to work just because a small group of shit bags couldn't climb aboard and do what was asked, I will be fucken pissed



  • https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/120909496/man-charged-after-spitting-at-cop-during-routine-traffic-stop-in-south-canterbury

    I hope they throw the book at this fuck stick. Spitting is a dog act at the best of times



  • I ma almost to the point of thinking this whole thing has been a pile of shite.

    We have stuffed our economy for 12 people in hospital,4 in ICU and 1 death?

    Lets assume we didnt lock down and it was 10 times worse...

    120 in hospital, 40 in ICU and 10 deaths? Big deal.

    I think a limited lockdown of at risk people plus strong border controls would have been perfect balance. This govt just panicked once university experts told them disaster scenarios. Gutless.
    And before anyone (most likely Hawkes supporters) have a cry about me getting political. I think a National govt would have done EXACTLY the same.



  • @canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    I think if the world borders remain tight for a sustained period, most of the tourist dollars NZers spent outside NZ will end up being spent in NZ, one reason many dont holiday here is the cost, so if the industry wants to get back on it's feet, appealing to the average NZer that would typically go to Fiji, Gold Coast, Bali etc is going to be key.

    I'm already considering where in NZ to take the family in the Winter holidays now that all planned overseas trips are canned. I think the NZ tourist industry is set to have a strong middle and second half of the year because I suspect I'm not alone

    I probably won't add much more than normal but that's because we travel and spend domestically in winter anyway, usually heading to the snow.
    We already have a Queenstown trip booked and have until the end of this month to cancel flights and get a credit. Also have a credit already from tickets that were meant to be in May for a visit but have been cancelled.
    Some of this depends on whether we can claim those credits (Jetstar) but I'd say we will end up going down there anyway.
    Also have season passes for Ruapehu so will be hopefully making use of those.
    Luckily for them, most tourism bucks are in winter in places like Ohakune.



  • @Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    @taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

    We already have a Queenstown trip booked and have until the end of this month to cancel flights and get a credit.

    Don't cancel, come visit! We'll still be in lockdown here at this rate , we can all walk to the top of the mountain together..😁


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