Coronavirus - UK
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow This article seems pretty informative: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55586994
When the airborne particles settle it'll be interesting to see the whether age or existing co-morbidity(ies) is a bigger factor in mortality.
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For fucks sake...
People are "blatantly" ignoring rules on lockdown restrictions despite repeated warnings, police have said. More than 100 cars had been turned away from Moel Famau on the Flintshire border by Saturday lunchtime, with some driving past "road closed" signs.
In Snowdonia, Gwynedd, a warden said a group from Leicester would have "probably ignored our advice" if police had not arrived and told them to leave.
Keith Ellis, a warden at Pen y Pass in Snowdonia, said while it had been much quieter this weekend, people were still travelling, despite the restrictions. "We've had three from Leicester first thing this morning and if the police hadn't turned up they would have probably ignored our advice and carried on up the mountain," he said.
"What they were wearing was totally inappropriate and they would have probably got into danger. "We've had people also from Liverpool and some locals turning up knowing full well what the rules are, but just trying it on.
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I hope you're right. The Sunday Times has a lead on poor compliance this lockdown and the government have rolled out Chris Whitty to give some stark messages.
I'll try and post the article (it's behind a paywall) but this a graphic from it. First 3 days may not be what's happening now but the difference looks stark.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow This article seems pretty informative: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55586994
When the airborne particles settle it'll be interesting to see the whether age or existing co-morbidity(ies) is a bigger factor in mortality.
Good point. I think the latter. But then they are correlated with age, so no simple answer, I’d guess.
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@MajorRage that's a good indication people aren't leaving their areas maybe but locally there are definitely near normal amounts of cars on the road by me this weekend, compared to first lockdown when roads were eerily quiet, definitely not the same amount of compliance. Weekdays have been quieter. But then on the flip side I think people are being a bit more sensible about shopping etc, no queues at my sainsburys and I just distance myself from everyone, so the panic buying is old news now.
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Same here. Local roads quieter but not like lockdown 1. Main roads very quiet. Also noticeable is a much calmer approach to the day to day stuff like shopping going for a walk. Masks more prevalent and distancing largely being adhered to but not so much of the crossing the road or standing in someone’s driveway to avoid another person and show you’re doing your bit.
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@Victor-Meldrew In Wimbledon traffic down from Christmas, but more than March. LOTS of people walking, but mainly keeping reasonable distance (1m+). More in shops but no more than two or three at time in small ones.
All in all, I'd say compliance is actually good.
But infections from Christmas still working their way around at home, so may be another week before stats show much.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
Check out from about 22 minutes: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000rk6c/bbc-news-special-coronavirus-update-07012021 BBC interviewer stunned by how positive he was. Closes down spurious NZ comparison. Back to normal by Easter.
Breath of fresh air!
It was Sir John Bell, Professor of Medicine at Oxford. Given his strident optimism I doubt he'll ever be seen again on BBC!
I've noticed an improvement in the BBC recently and they've started to challenge and probe experts and government critics rather than just accept what they say which gives a far better insight and balance
Andrew Marr challenged Starmer on his criticism of Johnson of taking action too late on school closures by pointing out Labour's indecision on school closures. Wasn't a criticism of Starmer, but it pointed out that in an emergency policy decisions need change as the situation changes and that's not always a bad thing.
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@Victor-Meldrew Marr on the whole is not too bad. He treats everybody the same and probes without being a complete ego driven dick.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
Check out from about 22 minutes: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000rk6c/bbc-news-special-coronavirus-update-07012021 BBC interviewer stunned by how positive he was. Closes down spurious NZ comparison. Back to normal by Easter.
Breath of fresh air!
It was Sir John Bell, Professor of Medicine at Oxford. Given his strident optimism I doubt he'll ever be seen again on BBC!
I've noticed an improvement in the BBC recently and they've started to challenge and probe experts and government critics rather than just accept what they say which gives a far better insight and balance
Andrew Marr challenged Starmer on his criticism of Johnson of taking action too late on school closures by pointing out Labour's indecision on school closures. Wasn't a criticism of Starmer, but it pointed out that in an emergency policy decisions need change as the situation changes and that's not always a bad thing.
Starmer wasn't cooperating much, not saying he'd do much differently, and refusing to relitigate freedom of movement!
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
Same here. Local roads quieter but not like lockdown 1. Main roads very quiet. Also noticeable is a much calmer approach to the day to day stuff like shopping going for a walk. Masks more prevalent and distancing largely being adhered to but not so much of the crossing the road or standing in someone’s driveway to avoid another person and show you’re doing your bit.
I did notice though when running that the roads seem busy then 30 seconds later completely dead. Which I think shows just how much it’s reduced as cars basically travel in pods created by traffic lights.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Victor-Meldrew Marr on the whole is not too bad. He treats everybody the same and probes without being a complete ego driven dick.
He's one of the better ones, for sure.
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@Catogrande maybe a sarfeast thing...we encountered a few too many pairs/pods of people oblivious to others trying to get past or just maintaining side-by-side walking towards us when the footpath is narrow (and we've gone single file).
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Bones Well, in the words of Ser Bron of the Blackwater , there’s no cure for being a fluffybunny.
Covid is quite effective, though.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Catogrande maybe a sarfeast thing...we encountered a few too many pairs/pods of people oblivious to others trying to get past or just maintaining side-by-side walking towards us when the footpath is narrow (and we've gone single file).
Call for the rozzers:
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@pakman and yet they were fine with the person filming and all the other passersby. Go figure huh...those poor innocent people...
Perhaos there's some background we're missing? That said, there's sensible policing and stupid policing. Fining someone for carrying cups of coffee on a walk as they regarded carrying the coffee as "picnicing", as happened the other day, is the epitome of dumb
Meanwhile in London, four carloads of rozzers are photographed happily eating breakfast together in a café in Greenwich....