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    • Kirwan
      Kirwan last edited by

      Apple are going to really struggle to keep the App Store model they currently have. This on the back of banning the new streaming platform from Microsoft (and Google's) is going to be hard to win the PR war with.

      This ad is brilliant.

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      • Winger
        Winger @Kirwan last edited by

        @Kirwan said in Apple:

        Apple are going to really struggle to keep the App Store model they currently have. This on the back of banning the new streaming platform from Microsoft (and Google's) is going to be hard to win the PR war with.

        This ad is brilliant.

        Its a world I know nothing about

        But a 30% cut seems high

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        • Kiwiwomble
          Kiwiwomble last edited by Kiwiwomble

          brilliant ad

          is it a monoploly though? surely only effects their devices and apple is now third in the mobile rankings i thought i heard, might be missing something

          plus, fortnite is real hard to play on mobile, i wonder how many of their users play on phones

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          • Kirwan
            Kirwan @Kiwiwomble last edited by

            @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

            brilliant ad

            is it a monoploly though? surely only effects their devices and apple is now third in the mobile rankings i thought i heard, might be missing something

            plus, fortnite is real hard to play on mobile, i wonder how many of their users play on phones

            My daughter is playing it on an iPad right now (with her brother on an xBox).

            They aren't a monopoly by any stretch (not the most popular phone in any market, consumers have many choices of platform for many of the same apps). What they are is the most lucrative platform by some distance.

            The 30% was probably justifiable for the first 10 years of the app store, but it's starting to look more and more greedy as time goes on. Especially with the record profits Apple make and the fact they just became the first TWO trillion dollar company in market cap.

            They legally charge whatever they like (I expect they will win any lawsuits) but they can't win the PR battle. Serious risk they will bleed customers long term over these sorts of decisions. Most people wouldn't give two shits about getting the latest Samsung instead of an iPhone. Particularly if it's the only place you can get the modern game streaming, or their kids want Fortnite.

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            • Kiwiwomble
              Kiwiwomble @Kirwan last edited by

              @Kirwan yeah...tablet might have been easier than my Iphone 6....

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              • Kirwan
                Kirwan @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

                @Kirwan yeah...tablet might have been easier than my Iphone 6....

                I couldn't play it on either, to be honest. Even using the controller.

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                • Kiwiwomble
                  Kiwiwomble @Kirwan last edited by

                  @Kirwan switch is pretty good for it...not for building, you need to be on a comp for that...i got some wins

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                  • Bovidae
                    Bovidae last edited by

                    I have no interest in Fortnite but someone knows their history.

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                    • Kiwiwomble
                      Kiwiwomble @Bovidae last edited by

                      @Bovidae ....had we not all worked out the connection?

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                      • Bovidae
                        Bovidae @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                        @Kiwiwomble I'm sure many non-Mac people or computer nerds aren't familiar with that ad. 😉

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                        • Kiwiwomble
                          Kiwiwomble @Bovidae last edited by

                          @Bovidae you might be right but i think its pretty widely know as one of the most iconic ads in history

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                          • nzzp
                            nzzp @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                            @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

                            is it a monoploly though?

                            Their trouble for Apple is they only allow apps from their store. To install third party apps requires jail breaking the device and invalidating the warranty

                            Google allow third party apps, so don't have the same monopoly

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                            • Kiwiwomble
                              Kiwiwomble @nzzp last edited by Kiwiwomble

                              @nzzp i kind of see that as the digital equivalent of "no shirt, no shoes, no service"...in my store i set the rules...you can still go to a different store 🤷🏻♂ hardly a monopoly

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                                Virgil @nzzp last edited by

                                @nzzp said in Apple:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

                                is it a monoploly though?

                                Their trouble for Apple is they only allow apps from their store. To install third party apps requires jail breaking the device and invalidating the warranty

                                Google allow third party apps, so don't have the same monopoly

                                Doesn’t that open up the risk of dodgy apps being installed? For all the over the top controls Apple has it does keep you with a clean tight device.

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                                  Virgil last edited by

                                  .. I asked Siri via my iPhone and iwatch and she told me to say that.

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                                  • Kirwan
                                    Kirwan @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

                                    @nzzp i kind of see that as the digital equivalent of "no shirt, no shoes, no service"...in my store i set the rules...you can still go to a different store 🤷🏻♂ hardly a monopoly

                                    Yes, it's not a monopoly. Particularly as you have a choice of phone hardware (where andriod is easily the most popular platform) and two other stores from Google and Samsung.

                                    Apple pays for all the infrastructure and costs associated with running the app store, so it's perfectly reasonable to charge for having you apps on it. The issue is what should that charge be?

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                                    • Kirwan
                                      Kirwan @Virgil last edited by

                                      @Virgil said in Apple:

                                      @nzzp said in Apple:

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

                                      is it a monoploly though?

                                      Their trouble for Apple is they only allow apps from their store. To install third party apps requires jail breaking the device and invalidating the warranty

                                      Google allow third party apps, so don't have the same monopoly

                                      Doesn’t that open up the risk of dodgy apps being installed? For all the over the top controls Apple has it does keep you with a clean tight device.

                                      Yes. Much harder to get malware on an Apple phone for that reason, and much easier to protect your personal information.

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                                      • nzzp
                                        nzzp @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                        @Kiwiwomble you may well, but regulators may not like it much.

                                        Not judging the outcome, as I don't use Apple products by choice, but they are pretty close to the line

                                        This from June:

                                        Casey Newton  /  Jun 17, 2020  /  interface

                                        How Apple is making the antitrust case against it stronger

                                        How Apple is making the antitrust case against it stronger

                                        Rules applies inconsistently, competitors dismissed, and Congressional invitations ignored

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                                        • Kiwiwomble
                                          Kiwiwomble @nzzp last edited by

                                          @nzzp i think you've just shot down your own argument

                                          you dont use Apple by choice, monopoly regulations are about giving people choice, when there are only two airlines and they want to merge...that creates a monopoly...

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                                          • Kirwan
                                            Kirwan @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                            @nzzp Completely agree that Apple does some sketchy things that are anti-competitive on store. They also don't treat developers consistently either

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                                            • nzzp
                                              nzzp @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                              @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

                                              @nzzp i think you've just shot down your own argument

                                              you dont use Apple by choice, monopoly regulations are about giving people choice, when there are only two airlines and they want to merge...that creates a monopoly...

                                              not really. Note it's antitrust, not monopoly. I skimmed over the article - their argument was that Apple fees (at 30%) were very high, and didn't have competition.

                                              Look, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I can see why regulators are interested. They make money hand over fist (which is good for them), but don't tolerate dissent. I suppose it's kind of like facebook - you have the choice to use it (I don't), and they have the right to control what goes on there... until they get to some size where the regulators get interested as they have so much influence.

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                                              • Nepia
                                                Nepia last edited by

                                                Most of the people I know over 30 have iPhones and don't play Fortnite so will it have that much of an effect on Apple's bottom line? TBH, the youngins I know who have Android don't play Fortnite either (they're mostly girls).

                                                I see Google have banned Epic games from their store as well. Were their fees also high as well?

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                                                • nzzp
                                                  nzzp @Nepia last edited by

                                                  @Nepia said in Apple:

                                                  I see Google have banned Epic games from their store as well. Were their fees also high as well?

                                                  30% as well

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                                                  • nzzp
                                                    nzzp @Nepia last edited by

                                                    @Nepia feel like you're in the wrong business? 30% is awesome

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                                                    • Bones
                                                      Bones @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

                                                      @Bovidae you might be right but i think its pretty widely know as one of the most iconic ads in history

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                                                      • Tim
                                                        Tim last edited by

                                                        Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid Google's 30% cut

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                                                        • nzzp
                                                          nzzp @Tim last edited by

                                                          @Tim said in Apple:

                                                          Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid Google's 30% cut

                                                          oh that's gold

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                                                          • taniwharugby
                                                            taniwharugby last edited by

                                                            this thread will do...

                                                            MIss 12 has dropped her iPhone, and when she clicks on the screen to unlock it, the pressure from the break enters random numbers and she keeps getting locked out.

                                                            She wants to get her pics from it to transfer back to her old phone, any thoughts on how to do this if I cant unlock it to gain access on the Laptop?

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                                                            • Crucial
                                                              Crucial @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                              @taniwharugby said in Apple:

                                                              this thread will do...

                                                              MIss 12 has dropped her iPhone, and when she clicks on the screen to unlock it, the pressure from the break enters random numbers and she keeps getting locked out.

                                                              She wants to get her pics from it to transfer back to her old phone, any thoughts on how to do this if I cant unlock it to gain access on the Laptop?

                                                              She doesn’t have an appleID? Photos in iCloud?
                                                              Other than that you’ll need to fork out for a screen replacement

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                                                              • Crucial
                                                                Crucial last edited by

                                                                Just thought of something that might be worth a try depending on how cracked the screen is.
                                                                Power off then stick a suction cup on the screen. Power up and lift the cup to take pressure off.
                                                                Might be worth a crack.
                                                                The other option is to tell her tough shit, you should have been more careful. 😉

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                                                                • taniwharugby
                                                                  taniwharugby @Crucial last edited by taniwharugby

                                                                  @crucial turns out she does, my account, yay for dad telling her to do that, and her listening!!

                                                                  but yeah the tough shit line was trotted out, then the tears, so had to back down on that... 🙂

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                                                                  • ?
                                                                    A Former User @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                                    @taniwharugby i blame the parents 😉

                                                                    I had my first phone at 15,a hand me down, something like a nokia 3310. Simpler times!

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                                                                    • taniwharugby
                                                                      taniwharugby @Guest last edited by

                                                                      @r-l it was a hand me down from her brother haha!

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                                                                      • Tim
                                                                        Tim last edited by

                                                                        Bloomberg on rumoured changes for new Macbook Pro laptops:

                                                                        https://archive.is/uSrcd

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                                                                        • JC
                                                                          JC @Tim last edited by

                                                                          @Tim Yep, I'll have one of them I imagine. Mrs JC has one of the 13" Pro machines with the ARM silicon and it compares well to my i9 MBP, so I'm looking forward to how the new ones perform.

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                                                                          • Tim
                                                                            Tim last edited by

                                                                            That new Apple M1 Max chipset has almost as much memory bandwidth as an Nvidia RTX 3070!

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                                                                            • JC
                                                                              JC @Tim last edited by

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                                                                              • JC
                                                                                JC last edited by

                                                                                @Tim I’m keen to see how it compares to my i9 intel MBP.

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                                                                                • JC
                                                                                  JC last edited by

                                                                                  I'm loving the tech that extracts text from photos. Being able to call a number on the photo of a business card is great.

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                                                                                  • Hooroo
                                                                                    Hooroo @JC last edited by

                                                                                    @jc said in Apple:

                                                                                    I'm loving the tech that extracts text from photos. Being able to call a number on the photo of a business card is great.

                                                                                    That's awesome.

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