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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    @Bovidae you might be right but i think its pretty widely know as one of the most iconic ads in history

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

    is it a monoploly though?

    Their trouble for Apple is they only allow apps from their store. To install third party apps requires jail breaking the device and invalidating the warranty

    Google allow third party apps, so don't have the same monopoly

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    @nzzp i kind of see that as the digital equivalent of "no shirt, no shoes, no service"...in my store i set the rules...you can still go to a different store 🤷🏻♂ hardly a monopoly

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    @nzzp said in Apple:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

    is it a monoploly though?

    Their trouble for Apple is they only allow apps from their store. To install third party apps requires jail breaking the device and invalidating the warranty

    Google allow third party apps, so don't have the same monopoly

    Doesn’t that open up the risk of dodgy apps being installed? For all the over the top controls Apple has it does keep you with a clean tight device.

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    .. I asked Siri via my iPhone and iwatch and she told me to say that.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

    @nzzp i kind of see that as the digital equivalent of "no shirt, no shoes, no service"...in my store i set the rules...you can still go to a different store 🤷🏻♂ hardly a monopoly

    Yes, it's not a monopoly. Particularly as you have a choice of phone hardware (where andriod is easily the most popular platform) and two other stores from Google and Samsung.

    Apple pays for all the infrastructure and costs associated with running the app store, so it's perfectly reasonable to charge for having you apps on it. The issue is what should that charge be?

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    @Virgil said in Apple:

    @nzzp said in Apple:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

    is it a monoploly though?

    Their trouble for Apple is they only allow apps from their store. To install third party apps requires jail breaking the device and invalidating the warranty

    Google allow third party apps, so don't have the same monopoly

    Doesn’t that open up the risk of dodgy apps being installed? For all the over the top controls Apple has it does keep you with a clean tight device.

    Yes. Much harder to get malware on an Apple phone for that reason, and much easier to protect your personal information.

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    @Kiwiwomble you may well, but regulators may not like it much.

    Not judging the outcome, as I don't use Apple products by choice, but they are pretty close to the line

    This from June:

    Casey Newton  /  Jun 17, 2020  /  interface

    How Apple is making the antitrust case against it stronger

    How Apple is making the antitrust case against it stronger

    Rules applies inconsistently, competitors dismissed, and Congressional invitations ignored

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    @nzzp i think you've just shot down your own argument

    you dont use Apple by choice, monopoly regulations are about giving people choice, when there are only two airlines and they want to merge...that creates a monopoly...

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    @nzzp Completely agree that Apple does some sketchy things that are anti-competitive on store. They also don't treat developers consistently either

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  • nzzpN Online
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    @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

    @nzzp i think you've just shot down your own argument

    you dont use Apple by choice, monopoly regulations are about giving people choice, when there are only two airlines and they want to merge...that creates a monopoly...

    not really. Note it's antitrust, not monopoly. I skimmed over the article - their argument was that Apple fees (at 30%) were very high, and didn't have competition.

    Look, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I can see why regulators are interested. They make money hand over fist (which is good for them), but don't tolerate dissent. I suppose it's kind of like facebook - you have the choice to use it (I don't), and they have the right to control what goes on there... until they get to some size where the regulators get interested as they have so much influence.

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    Most of the people I know over 30 have iPhones and don't play Fortnite so will it have that much of an effect on Apple's bottom line? TBH, the youngins I know who have Android don't play Fortnite either (they're mostly girls).

    I see Google have banned Epic games from their store as well. Were their fees also high as well?

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    @Nepia said in Apple:

    I see Google have banned Epic games from their store as well. Were their fees also high as well?

    30% as well

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    @Nepia feel like you're in the wrong business? 30% is awesome

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Apple:

    @Bovidae you might be right but i think its pretty widely know as one of the most iconic ads in history

    alt text

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    Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid Google's 30% cut

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    @Tim said in Apple:

    Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid Google's 30% cut

    oh that's gold

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    this thread will do...

    MIss 12 has dropped her iPhone, and when she clicks on the screen to unlock it, the pressure from the break enters random numbers and she keeps getting locked out.

    She wants to get her pics from it to transfer back to her old phone, any thoughts on how to do this if I cant unlock it to gain access on the Laptop?

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    @taniwharugby said in Apple:

    this thread will do...

    MIss 12 has dropped her iPhone, and when she clicks on the screen to unlock it, the pressure from the break enters random numbers and she keeps getting locked out.

    She wants to get her pics from it to transfer back to her old phone, any thoughts on how to do this if I cant unlock it to gain access on the Laptop?

    She doesn’t have an appleID? Photos in iCloud?
    Other than that you’ll need to fork out for a screen replacement

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Just thought of something that might be worth a try depending on how cracked the screen is.
    Power off then stick a suction cup on the screen. Power up and lift the cup to take pressure off.
    Might be worth a crack.
    The other option is to tell her tough shit, you should have been more careful. 😉

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